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[quetz67]

Looking at the next gen consoles this is what the 3 consoles will be able to play:

One console will play Xbox 2 games and some xbox games
One console will play Revolution games, GC games, N64 games, SNES games and NES games.
One console will play PS3, PS2, PS1 games plus all Nintendo games prior to GC (and probably GC too) plus most arcade games plus all Sega games plus most games on every other console or handheld ever created probably including Dreamcast and xbox plus many earlier PC games.

Or did I get that open PS3 system stuff wrong?

 

[olimario]

You have it right. Log off now. Don't bother with other replies. Go buy your PS3.

 

[TheJollyCorner]

the Rev doesn't play N64 games?

 

[Nerevar]

Looking at the next gen consoles this is what the 3 consoles will be able to play:

One console will play Xbox 2 games and some xbox games
One console will play Revolution games, GC games, SNES games and NES games.
One console will play PS3, PS2, PS1 games plus all Nintendo games prior to GC (and probably GC too) plus most arcade games plus all Sega games plus most games on every other console or handheld ever created probably including Dreamcast and xbox plus many earlier PC games.

Or did I get that open PS3 system stuff wrong?

:lol
what?

 

[Wario64]

uh, what

 

[Ranger X]

Looking at the next gen consoles this is what the 3 consoles will be able to play:

One console will play Xbox 2 games and some xbox games
One console will play Revolution games, GC games, SNES games and NES games.
One console will play PS3, PS2, PS1 games plus all Nintendo games prior to GC (and probably GC too) plus most arcade games plus all Sega games plus most games on every other console or handheld ever created probably including Dreamcast and xbox plus many earlier PC games.

Or did I get that open PS3 system stuff wrong?

My god, it's complicated stuff heh? lol

360 will play some Xbox games.
PS3 will play all previous Playstations.
Revolution will play all previous Nintendo.

 

[Naked Snake]

*scratches head*

 

[GhaleonEB]

My god, it's complicated stuff heh? lol

360 will play some Xbox games, though how many is still up in the air.
PS3 will play all previous Playstations, with the exception of some obscure Japanese games
Revolution will play Gamecube games and will allow downloads of select previous games for older Nintendo sytems for a fee.

That's more like it.

 

[FiRez]

One console will play PS3, PS2, PS1 games plus all Nintendo games prior to GC (and probably GC too) plus most arcade games plus all Sega games plus most games on every other console or handheld ever created probably including Dreamcast and xbox plus many earlier PC games.

You guys are slow that is obviously a modded X360, except for the PS3 emulation :lol :lol :lol :lol

seriously at first X360 will be BC with some xbox games but the goal is to make BC with all the past xbox games.

 

[Ghost]

I think he's saying that because Ken said he wanted to put linux on all PS3s, it will be a homebrew software paradise.

 

[Ranger X]

That's more like it.

Sure but now it may be too complicated for him to understand and we will suffer another thread maybe. :lol

 

[quetz67]

Sorry I forgot the N64 for the Revolution.

What I meant is the PS3 is an open system from what I heard with linux possible and stuff. So we will see about every emulator available on that machine (seeing what happens on PSP).

Sure modded x360s or maybe revolutions will do some of that stuff too, but as long as it isnt legal it wont happen to that extend (see emulators on xbox)

 

[GhaleonEB]

Sure but now it may be too complicated for him to understand and we will suffer another thread maybe. :lol

I know, caveats galore.

I know what Drinky would say here....

 

[Thraktor]

Sorry I forgot the N64 for the Revolution.

What I meant is the PS3 is an open system from what I heard with linux possible and stuff. So we will see about every emulator available on that machine (seeing what happens on PSP).

Sure modded x360s or maybe revolutions will do some of that stuff too, but as long as it isnt legal it wont happen to that extend (see emulators on xbox)

I'm not even going to start on the "grammar" you've got there, but you are well aware that emulating on a PS3 (apart from PS1/PS2 games with the discs in the drive) is illegal, right? It's no different than any sort of homebrew emulation on XBox at the moment. And as for the PS3 being all open-source and Linux friendly, they said the same about the PS2, so I wouldn't get my hopes up.

 

[FiRez]

Yes, probably it will be another PS2 linux distro or just the kernel at best.

 

[Borys]

Looking at the next gen consoles this is what the 3 consoles will be able to play:

One console will play Xbox 2 games and some xbox games
One console will play Revolution games, GC games, N64 games, SNES games and NES games.
One console will play PS3, PS2, PS1 games plus all Nintendo games prior to GC (and probably GC too) plus most arcade games plus all Sega games plus most games on every other console or handheld ever created probably including Dreamcast and xbox plus many earlier PC games.

Or did I get that open PS3 system stuff wrong?

:lol

What?
You could say the same about 360, filthy pirate.

 

[sonycowboy]

My god, it's complicated stuff heh? lol

360 will play some Xbox games.
PS3 will play all previous Playstations.
Revolution will play all previous Nintendo.

I'm still a bit skeptical on PS3 BC with the PS2 and PSOne. It's actually a pretty complicated thing for the CELL/RSX to emulate the Emotion Engine (including V1 & V2), the GS (with superfast 4MB DRAM) and the PSOne CPU/GPU chip that was in the PS2 as well.

I know they've been pretty darn confident regarding it, to the point of knocking Microsoft for dodging the 100% BC, but it will be quite a feat to actually get it done, IMO.

 

[Spider_Jerusalem]

What I meant is the PS3 is an open system from what I heard with linux possible and stuff.

 

[Flo_Evans]

I would kill a man for that PS2 > VGA adapter. why the hell did sony not ever sell it seprate?

 

[thorns]

you can say the same for the modded xbox too, and it will be cheaper than a ps3..

modding the xbox is legal.. the only illegal part is the roms and compiled executables for xbox. if the ps3 had a linux kit, the compiled executables would be legal, but the roms still would be illegal. and the emulators are worthless without the roms, so you draw your own conclusion.

 

[quetz67]

hey guys, I already said there will be homebrew stuff on x360 as is on xbox and PS2.

but it never took off like it does right now on the PSP. The difference is, xbox or PS2 need to be modded (illegal or not) but on PSP it works with unmodified hardware.

if PS3 really gets a linux for everyone to work with we will see lots of homebrew stuff and emulators

 

[FiRez]

hey guys, I already said there will be homebrew stuff on x360 as is on xbox and PS2.

but it never took off like it does right now on the PSP. The difference is, xbox or PS2 need to be modded (illegal or not) but on PSP it works with unmodified hardware.

if PS3 really gets a linux for everyone to work with we will see lots of homebrew stuff and emulators

PS2 got a real linux, apart from a few homebrew tech demos there was nothing because you can't compile your project to run on a PS2 as a stand alone executable file, and some apps and emus development with homebrew SDK's appeared but it pales if you compare it to the xbox scene.

And I don't know how much you track the scene of the current consoles but I have modded more than 10 xbox without scratching the warranty sticker.

 

[sangreal]

hey guys, I already said there will be homebrew stuff on x360 as is on xbox and PS2.

but it never took off like it does right now on the PSP. The difference is, xbox or PS2 need to be modded (illegal or not) but on PSP it works with unmodified hardware.

if PS3 really gets a linux for everyone to work with we will see lots of homebrew stuff and emulators

Um, the PSP uses exploits to launch the homebrew code.You can do the same thing with XBOX.

I don't know why you say emulation on xbox never took off, I very much disagree. Also, the PS2 had a linux kit but you didn't see much homebrew development until the harddrive & hdloader were released. Kutagari is talking about shipping linux on a 80gb 2.5" drive. A 80gb 2.5" drive sells for over $100, add Sony markup and you're back at the price and likely popularity of the PS2 linux kit.

 

[Spider_Jerusalem]

hey guys, I already said there will be homebrew stuff on x360 as is on xbox and PS2.

but it never took off like it does right now on the PSP.

On Xbox? :lol

The Xbox homebrew scene gave us plenty of emulators and a really great media player... "it never took off" :lol

 

[jarrod]

So using that logic... GBA is backwards compatible with GB, GBC, NES, SMS, ColecoVision, X1 Turbo, SNES, Spectrum & PC Engine?

 

[pcostabel]

Um, the PSP uses exploits to launch the homebrew code.

Not if you have 1.0. No exploit needed, it just runs executables from the MS.

 

[quetz67]

So using that logic... GBA is backwards compatible with GB, GBC, NES, SMS, ColecoVision, X1 Turbo, SNES, Spectrum & PC Engine?

are there NES (etc.) emulators for the GBA???

 

[jarrod]

are there NES (etc.) emulators for the GBA???

Yes. SNES & PCE don't run too well though.

 

[quetz67]

On Xbox? :lol

The Xbox homebrew scene gave us plenty of emulators and a really great media player... "it never took off" :lol

From what I read most emulators are far from what they could be if they put more effort into it. And I think thats because the number of people with modded xboxes are very limited.

See PSP, as long as only 1.0 was able to run homebrew mostly some japanese guys did stuff, but now most people can use and develop stuff the number of homebrew apps is increasing.

 

[FiRez]

From what I read most emulators are far from what they could be if they put more effort into it. And I think thats because the number of people with modded xboxes are very limited.

See PSP, as long as only 1.0 was able to run homebrew mostly some japanese guys did stuff, but now most people can use and develop stuff the number of homebrew apps is increasing.

wow, you have no clue, implementing virtual memory when the rom fills the 64 MB on ram isn't a feat for you? let alone the features of the XBMC....jeez.....

sorry I'm going to play metal slug 5 or some other neo-geo game on my xbox

 

[Spider_Jerusalem]

From what I read most emulators are far from what they could be if they put more effort into it. And I think thats because the number of people with modded xboxes are very limited.

Well then, read better ;-)

 

[DopeyFish]

the xbox homebrew scene is probably the most rich homebrew console scene since the early early days of consoles

 

[quetz67]

Sorry didnt know I would stumble across a bunch of xbots with this topic.

It was more like Nintendo being proud of their backwards compatibility and Sony probably offering more than that after all.

No, I am not in the xbox modding/hombrew scene, but as far as I know there is no full speed N64 emulator yet. And my old Celeron 300 PC did perfect N64 emulation with UltraHLE even at high resolultions.

And the reason I am not into xbox homebrew might be that there was no 1000+ replies topic on that like it is now for the PSP (which already got a GBA emulator only weeks after the security hole was found).

 

[tehrik-e-insaaf]

its worth pointing out that the revolution isn't truly backwards compatible with n64, snes, and nes. while they may give us the emulator and service to access the roms, they do have to be repurchased. it is effectively no different than say purchasing sonic collection on gc except for two key differentiating factors:

1. online purchase, no physical media, and a key service of the overall platform
2. variety of availability far exceeds one-off compilations we have seen in the past (or so we anticipate)

the true breakdown is more likely to be as follows:

1. revolution - b/c with gc
2. ps3 - b/c with psx, ps2
3. xbox 360 - b/c with "key" xbox titles

i have my doubts and reservations as to both nintendo and sony's claim of complete compatibility with their prior systems given the lack of original hardware within the new platforms.

i don't think it is that easy to take games coded to the metal of prior platforms and make them playable on different hardware. with nintendo it might be possible for most since programmers were more prone to use the standard API (meaning less hardware coding) - but with ps2 im not sure (especially with games like mgs2 that were programmed extensively with the pecularities of the ps2 hardware in mind).

i realize you can emulate the pecularities, but understanding all of the unique programming combinations and creating a virtual environment suitable for all of the games in the ps2 library will be a time-consuming feat.

Oh well I guess we will find out soon enough!

 

[jarrod]

i have my doubts and reservations as to both nintendo and sony's claim of complete compatibility with their prior systems given the lack of original hardware within the new platforms.

With Nintendo using the same hardware suppliers though, it's possible that Hollywood/Broadway will be able to process legacy Gekko/Flipper code. The SNES CPU could technically run NES CPU code (it just needed a pass through).

With Sony, I dunno. I'd have prefered they used a PS2 SOC for the IO control in PS3 (a la PS1 SOC in PS2)... emulation's iffy and if they can't come close to 95%+ compatability it may come back to haunt them after taunting Microsoft.

 

[FiRez]

Sorry didnt know I would stumble across a bunch of xbots with this topic.

It was more like Nintendo being proud of their backwards compatibility and Sony probably offering more than that after all.

No, I am not in the xbox modding/hombrew scene, but as far as I know there is no full speed N64 emulator yet. And my old Celeron 300 PC did perfect N64 emulation with UltraHLE even at high resolultions.

And the reason I am not into xbox homebrew might be that there was no 1000+ replies topic on that like it is now for the PSP (which already got a GBA emulator only weeks after the security hole was found).

you're quite narrow minded....dont you?, and yes the N64 latest emu can play very well a lot of 256MB games, heck even conker is playable with very minor gfx artifacts.

And the xbox scene is quite old....duh that's why you don't see some titles like OMFG....A new XBMC compilation, or a new GBA-emu version, because almost everything possible emu in xbox is done (well with the exception of the PSX HW accelerated plugin).

OT: btw are you from guatemala, just asking because your nick.

 

[Particle Physicist]

It was more like Nintendo being proud of their backwards compatibility and Sony probably offering more than that after all.

the difference being that nintendo will offer this legally out of box.

OT: btw are you from guatemala, just asking because your nick.

im from guatemala. er. born there, but raised in the US.

 

[8BALL]

Who cares?

Play the greatest games of all time on NES on SNES, or N64 through an NES, SNES, N64, through a PS3, through an XBOX, through the Revolution, through the 360, through a PC.

Who cares about old shit? You can get that anywhere. If you NEED a classic gaming fix, buy some shit used. Play your odl games you do have. If there's a classic game you missed out on, you've failed at life. Buy that shit for GBA. Buy it for Revolution. Download it illgeally. Who gives a fuck? Just play your fucking games.

"What about arcade/sega/atari/neo geo/other failure? You can't get that on System A/B, only on System C!!"
Who fucking cares? If you're going to use illegal roms, keep that shit on the PC, where it's most available and works best. If your PC can't handle it, you're gay.


It's going to be the most retarded thing ever when fuckers start bitching about which console plays old Nitnendo games better, or has more old Nintendo games available.

 

[manji]

Who cares?

...who sent this message?

 

[bitwise]

Who cares?

Play the greatest games of all time on NES on SNES, or N64 through an NES, SNES, N64, through a PS3, through an XBOX, through the Revolution, through the 360, through a PC.

Who cares about old shit? You can get that anywhere. If you NEED a classic gaming fix, buy some shit used. Play your odl games you do have. If there's a classic game you missed out on, you've failed at life. Buy that shit for GBA. Buy it for Revolution. Download it illgeally. Who gives a fuck? Just play your fucking games.

"What about arcade/sega/atari/neo geo/other failure? You can't get that on System A/B, only on System C!!"
Who fucking cares? If you're going to use illegal roms, keep that shit on the PC, where it's most available and works best. If your PC can't handle it, you're gay.


It's going to be the most retarded thing ever when fuckers start bitching about which console plays old Nitnendo games better, or has more old Nintendo games available.

wow ur cool

 

[Matlock]

SIR YOU ARE A LIAR AND A THIEF

YOU LOSE

GOOD DAY SIR

 

[EGM92]

Matlock:

I think you need this

 

[FiRez]

im from guatemala. er. born there, but raised in the US.

Wow, almost everyone that has some relation to C.A are not here anymore (You, DarienA and another one that I don't remeber), I'm the only one unlucky that is stuck here (I'm from Honduras, but still)

 

[koam]

Looking at the next gen consoles this is what the 3 consoles will be able to play:

One console will play Xbox 2 games and some xbox games
One console will play Revolution games, GC games, N64 games, SNES games and NES games.
One console will play PS3, PS2, PS1 games plus all Nintendo games prior to GC (and probably GC too) plus most arcade games plus all Sega games plus most games on every other console or handheld ever created probably including Dreamcast and xbox plus many earlier PC games.

Or did I get that open PS3 system stuff wrong?

Right, you've covered the Rev, X360 and Phantom, but what about the PS3?

 

[koam]

So using that logic... GBA is backwards compatible with GB, GBC, NES, SMS, ColecoVision, X1 Turbo, SNES, Spectrum & PC Engine?

WHAT?

 

[jarrod]

WHAT?

There's a SNES emu for GBA. Pretty low compatibility from what I understand though.

DS should be able to handle SNES, PCE, Genesis, CPS/CPS2 & NeoGeo pretty well though when the scene heats up.

 

[TheDiave]

No. But you get a gold star for effort. Now go back to your desk and sit down.

 

[Dr_Cogent]

Looking at the next gen consoles this is what the 3 consoles will be able to play:

One console will play Xbox 2 games and some xbox games
One console will play Revolution games, GC games, N64 games, SNES games and NES games.
One console will play PS3, PS2, PS1 games plus all Nintendo games prior to GC (and probably GC too) plus most arcade games plus all Sega games plus most games on every other console or handheld ever created probably including Dreamcast and xbox plus many earlier PC games.

Or did I get that open PS3 system stuff wrong?

Since when can the PS3 play Nintendo games. I don't think so.

 

[jarrod]

I wouldn't count out Sega signing a deal with Nintendo or Microsoft to get their back ctalogue playable on Revolution or Xbox 360 either. Sega's got close ties to both through Naka/Miyamoto's friendship (Naka even hinted at wanting MD games playable on Rev) and Peter Moore now heading up MGS... Sega's been pimping their PC emulation service for awhile now and even had a similar service for Dreamcast (allowing Mark III, MD and PCE games to be downloaded and played). I think one of the next gen machines will definitely have this feature...

 

[Nerevar]

modding the xbox is legal.. the only illegal part is the roms and compiled executables for xbox. if the ps3 had a linux kit, the compiled executables would be legal, but the roms still would be illegal. and the emulators are worthless without the roms, so you draw your own conclusion.

In the US, the actual act of modding an xbox console is illegal. It is made illegal by the DMCA which makes any method to circumvent copyright protection illegal (such as installing a modchip so the system doesn't check for cryptographically "signed" files).

And quetz, nice troll job. I'm glad you used such a blatantly stupid topic and first post to make fun of the people discussing xbox emulation in your thread.