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[HeisenbergFX4]

Sound like excuses. These consoles are going in places people place their current gen consoles in.

So what now?? You are going to blame peoples furniture. That they already use with no problem. Come on man what we are doing here

All this ducking ,diving , capping ,excuses is why Xbox is in this state. When shit is bad just say it's bad. No need for excuses.

Not making excuses I mean all consoles and PCs are in danger of over heating if put in a space and not able to breathe.

Edit- I bet my new monitor the LG 27GN950 that has a fan and puts out a decent amount of heat would over heat if I shoved it in a box and not give it air.

 

[Moridianae]

Really hoping that Blizzard puts out a PS5 patch for Overwatch. It is pretty obvious OW2 is at least a year away.

I would think PS5 can handle a 120FPS option for that game, which is what he hopes for.

 

[ToadMan]

Is that Dealers podcast?

There certainly wouldn't be any playstation fan in it trying to spread FUD around.

But then again they are pre production systems so maybe a few do have issues. Plus we also don't know how these people are treating them.

I understand that the BC games available right now change depending on bugs that are being found.

These overheating scenarios - IF they’re genuine - may be down to bugs in pre-production software as much as anything to do with the hardware.

 

[sircaw]

sircaw

Just want to add my 2 cents on "overheating Xbox" issue. It's possible it's just an glitch that happens in certain cases.

I saw a message similar to this in one of the reports and I've gotten the same similar message on my Xbox One X over the years and it never actually was overheating. For me it's happened a couple times randomly on occasion and recently during that demo fest they had one of the demo's in particular would cause the fans to freak out and end up with this message just from trying to launch the demo. They mentioned those demos were still a work in progress and might not even work. What I'm trying to say here is that it's possible especially on those prototype units with freshly released game builds/compatibility that some might have run into those errors. Not saying it's impossible that they're overheating, just throwing this out there.

I hear ya, it could be possible. anything is possible.

I do however think the most likely culprit is like HeisenbergFX4 said, these idiots are jamming the console into their sock draw and playing games for 10 hours straight.

I can't not stress this enough, i seriously doubt Microsoft would of fucked up on their design so it overheats like this, its not a design problem, its a user error problem i would thing 99.999 sure of that.

I mean @X-Fighter threatened to burn down my entire village for saying the console blew hot, i mean after this new information has come out, it kinda turns out i was right. Send bricks and wood you bastard so i can start rebuilding


I am just interested in hearing now are people allowed to discuss these issues without being permabanned, that's all.

 

[TGO]

With no PS3/PS2 or PSX BC in sight, the need for a Next-Gen MGS/Silent Hill Remaster Collection is even more needed then ever before.
Come on Konami! Stop being dicks!
Also Atlas needs to port P3-4 to PS5/PS4

 

[jamwest24]

I understand that the BC games available right now change depending on bugs that are being found.

These overheating scenarios - IF they’re genuine - may be down to bugs in pre-production software as much as anything to do with the hardware.

I totally agree, but I feel like the design of just having a flat top and back with no flaps like the PS5 to keep (not very bright) people from covering those areas up and limiting ventilation could be a problem. Even the Xbox One X, and PS4 Pro both have an overhang on the front and/or back to help air still circulate well in a confined space. And I think the PS5 has those flaps around the edges to help maintain circulation for that reason as well. Even if you put the PS5 directly against a wall, it’ll still have some separation, whereas the Series X could have it totally blocked. Not saying anyone SHOULD do that for any of the consoles, but if people aren’t the sharpest knives in the drawer it could possibly be a problem.

 

[danielJackson]

Just sold my ps4 pro (first model) with 2 controllers, camera, charging dock and few old games for 280€

TV stands looks so empty now, good that lord saviour Cernys vision, the Playstation 5 arrives in about a month

Kind of funny that in the mean while xbox one x is difficult to sell even for 100-150€.

Now is the last moment to sell current gen systems before prices tank

 

[Bo_Hazem]

DMC5: PS5 vs PS4 vs XOX vs PC "NVMe m.2 PCIe 3.0" loading times:





Thanks to zaitsu

EDIT: Note that PS5 was loaded faster but the player lagged a bit to press X.

EDIT2: The PC guy is using NVMe m.2 PCIe 3.0, not much details about the specs:

Playstation 5 [PS5] [Release November 12 2020]

DMC 5 Special edition PS5 load in 4 seconds or less against 24 seconds on PS4 From a youtube video of a japanese streamer This is faster than PC version with a SSD. Good optimization 3 to 4 seconds depending of the mission. It's a good game for those that haven't played it. Great speed up...

forum.beyond3d.com

 

[sircaw]

DMC5: PS5 vs PS4 vs XOX vs PC "NVMe m.2" loading times:

Sorry for a stupid question is the one x the new 12 tflop machine, these names confuse me at the best of times?

 

[Bo_Hazem]

Sorry for a stupid question is the one x the new 12 tflop machine, these names confuse me at the best of times?

It's the old one, 6TF GCN.

 

[Metroiddarks]

DMC5: PS5 vs PS4 vs XOX vs PC "NVMe m.2" loading times:





Thanks to zaitsu

Those PS5 loadings

 

[sircaw]

It's the old one, 6TF GCN.

Thank you, lol, fuck these names and who ever made them.

Just call it the xbox fucking 5 FFS

 

[Zadom]

DMC5: PS5 vs PS4 vs XOX vs PC "NVMe m.2" loading times:





Thanks to zaitsu

This is what I was hoping for in next gen. That’s great!

 

[sircaw]

Those PS5 loadings

but yer back on point damn, that ps5 ssd is fucking rocking some serious speed.

That pc one is getting smoked hard.

 

[Bo_Hazem]

DMC5: PS5 vs PS4 vs XOX vs PC "NVMe m.2" loading times:





Thanks to zaitsu

EDIT: Note that PS5 was loaded faster but the player lagged a bit to press X.

PS5 was done loading in like ~2sec but the player didn't press X, btw. Crazy!

 

[reksveks]

DMC5: PS5 vs PS4 vs XOX vs PC "NVMe m.2" loading times:





Thanks to zaitsu

EDIT: Note that PS5 was loaded faster but the player lagged a bit to press X.

So that's a 5/6x in speed upgrade assuming the world size is the same?

 

[Gudji]

There's other video (mission 2) where the same PC guy loads the game super fast, like in 6 seconds. The PS5 is still faster though, around 4 seconds.

 

[ToadMan]

I totally agree, but I feel like the design of just having a flat top and back with no flaps like the PS5 to keep (not very bright) people from covering those areas up and limiting ventilation could be a problem. Even the Xbox One X, and PS4 Pro both have an overhang on the front and/or back to help air still circulate well in a confined space. And I think the PS5 has those flaps around the edges to help maintain circulation for that reason as well. Even if you put the PS5 directly against a wall, it’ll still have some separation, whereas the Series X could have it totally blocked. Not saying anyone SHOULD do that for any of the consoles, but if people aren’t the sharpest knives in the drawer it could possibly be a problem.

Yeah I get what you mean - there may be a temptation with the design of Xsex to push it up against a panel and inadvertently block the air flow.

It seems like the “wings” on the PS5 May have some function as you say. One other theory was that the console would tend to feel cool to touch because the wings you’d touch are separate from the actual heat generating components.

But yeah those curved shapes should help avoid it becoming so close to a blockage to stop the airflow.

What few Xsex vids there are from youtubers usually show the console in a clear space on top of a cabinet - that’s ideal for cooling. We don’t have any information about any of those supposed cases of hot or overheating consoles.

 

[Metroiddarks]

but yer back on point damn, that ps5 ssd is fucking rocking some serious speed.

That pc one is getting smoked hard.

The PC as is usual will be better in some years than any console, but man just the fact the PS5 loading speed are able
to be reach or even be better than a current high end PC is enough for me.

 

[sircaw]

PS5 was done loading in like ~2sec but the player didn't press X, btw. Crazy!

the guy top right, Fightingcowboy, i watch often, he was great for games like dark souls and stuff, fun chill channel.

 

[sircaw]

So that's a 5/6x in speed upgrade assuming the world size is the same?

 

[Dodkrake]

So how i am meant to play this now, so it turns out to be true, this is coming from Dealer the biggest xbox fanboy on the planet. you can hear him say it in the podcast, WTF

This is not some lie.

People have been getting warnings for this, bans probably, posts have been shut down, now it turns out it's true?
Can i discuss this or am i going to get banned?>

what about people that have been given a time out because of this.

@EviLore @Bill O'Rights @Mod of War @ are we allowed to talk about this now?

 

[Bo_Hazem]

So that's a 5/6x in speed upgrade assuming the world size is the same?

All games are hovering around 0.8-2sec so far. Some other things happen as well before/after loading.

 

[ToadMan]

DMC5: PS5 vs PS4 vs XOX vs PC "NVMe m.2" loading times:





Thanks to zaitsu

EDIT: Note that PS5 was loaded faster but the player lagged a bit to press X.

The PS5 version is presumably the next gen special edition - I’m not certain of the specs of that but I assume since it’s a new version, that means it’s using enhanced textures at least.

So I wonder if the PS5 isn’t loading more data than the other versions on show here ...?

 

[Zadom]

PS5 was done loading in like ~2sec but the player didn't press X, btw. Crazy!

Is this going to be common on PS5 games? To press “X” since loads are so fast you may not be ready to resume play?

 

[Dodkrake]

Not making excuses I mean all consoles and PCs are in danger of over heating if put in a space and not able to breathe.

Edit- I bet my new monitor the LG 27GN950 that has a fan and puts out a decent amount of heat would over heat if I shoved it in a box and not give it air.

Do you know in what circumstance the Xbox is shutting down? Because if not, you're assuming just for the sake of assuming.

 

[Bo_Hazem]

Is this going to be common on PS5 games? To press “X” since loads are so fast you may not be ready to resume play?

I believe so, as third party devs need to make loading screens for inferior platforms as well.

 

[sircaw]

Is this going to be common on PS5 games? To press “X” since loads are so fast you may not be ready to resume play?

Sony's ssd is already causing problems already, at 50 i already have sore hands.

I LOVE FIRST WORLD FUCKING PROBLEMS.

 

[Bo_Hazem]

The PS5 version is presumably the next gen special edition - I’m not certain of the specs of that but I assume since it’s a new version, that means it’s using enhanced textures at least.

So I wonder if the PS5 isn’t loading more data than the other versions on show here ...?

Now that's a solid point! Yup, PS5 must be loading much more data as well.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

Do you know in what circumstance the Xbox is shutting down? Because if not, you're assuming just for the sake of assuming.

He literally says in the clip the XSX are shoved into cabinets with no airflow, its all I have to go on

 

[yewles1]

Sorry for a stupid question is the one x the new 12 tflop machine, these names confuse me at the best of times?

Glad I'm not in Brazil if what I'm hearing is true...

 

[reksveks]

The PS5 version is presumably the next gen special edition - I’m not certain of the specs of that but I assume since it’s a new version, that means it’s using enhanced textures at least.

So I wonder if the PS5 isn’t loading more data than the other versions on show here ...?

The other part of benchmarking that will be fun. I assumed actually pc might be the biggest world size.

 

[J_Gamer.exe]

Godfall, DMC5 SE, Balan Wonderworld Balan Underworld
Gameplay!

Devil May Cry 5 SE Load times:
PS5 vs PC SSD

Playstation 5 [PS5] [Release November 12 2020]

DMC 5 Special edition PS5 load in 4 seconds or less against 24 seconds on PS4 From a youtube video of a japanese streamer This is faster than PC version with a SSD. Good optimization 3 to 4 seconds depending of the mission. It's a good game for those that haven't played it. Great speed up...

forum.beyond3d.com

Where is the 4 seconds load coming from people have counted, you surely cant count through when it then relies on a button press.

The load starts part way into second 1 and the x button come up after about 2 seconds after that, it just takes the player a small time to press and go to the next screen. But ok it takes them 3 or so seconds but the load happened in 2.

A last gen game, next gen don't need these unnecessary steps i wouldn't have thought.

Not sure what's going on with godfall loading is it Internet based? The start of that video, wait for further examples... looks slow.... maybe im missing something about it?

 

[martino]

go ask him the spec.

 

[Dodkrake]

He literally says in the clip the XSX are shoved into cabinets with no airflow, its all I have to go on

"these guys are cramming them in cabinets and they are just not getting the airflow and the fans are not ramping up high enough, according to this person"

First, he didn't say "cabinets with no airflow". Second, that's not the only thing he says.

What is a cabinet without enough airflow? Is it a closed cabinet? Open cabinet? Both?

 

[Katt”BuckNasty”Johnston]

I mean under certain conditions every console will overheat.

People shoving them in confined spaces are asking for problems

This. People who’ll shove a console in a constricted spaces are asking for overheating. Good ol’ ID 10 T error.

 

[Bo_Hazem]

Glad I'm not in Brazil if what I'm hearing is true...

You always have a split unit AC in each room. We got like 11 and 2 other classic unified AC's at home. Make your own temperature

 

[sircaw]

Glad I'm not in Brazil if what I'm hearing is true...

Prices?> or something else.

 

[demigod]

Not making excuses I mean all consoles and PCs are in danger of over heating if put in a space and not able to breathe.

Edit- I bet my new monitor the LG 27GN950 that has a fan and puts out a decent amount of heat would over heat if I shoved it in a box and not give it air.

Most of the people that got them are gaming journalists or influencers, I highly doubt they would be putting it in an enclosed cabinet like casuals would.

 

[Bo_Hazem]

go ask him the spec.

Thanks for the addition!

 

[yewles1]

Prices?> or something else.

Apparently MS marketing in BZ goofed and called it "XBOX One Series X"

 

[martino]

Thanks for the addition!

i suspect a huge config and it's funny this was uploaded today

 

[Wraith Phantom]

Not making excuses I mean all consoles and PCs are in danger of over heating if put in a space and not able to breathe.

Edit- I bet my new monitor the LG 27GN950 that has a fan and puts out a decent amount of heat would over heat if I shoved it in a box and not give it air.

Nobody is disputing electronic products heating up. But to be putting the blame on people's furniture thats been in their house for years.That worked fine for the 1 & 1X. Is ridiculous.

The people that are testing the XSX. The XSX has failed in their entertainment centre or however its happening. Thats all there is too it. Might not be all of them ,but it's happening. And its xbox guys reporting it. Which is excellent for consumers knowledge. Dont downplay this. This is good knowledge for consumers.

Many people got dismissed for saying this XSX design was not good for entertainment centres. And here we are XSX is shutting down because of heat issues. Xbox need to come out and state how & where this box needs to sit. Clearly it's designed for outside & vertical standing. They need to speak on it before consumers have these heat issue in their shelves. (I don't see this heat thing being fix this late) Clearly this XSX doesn't like entertainment centres. It's built for volcano release ,you don't put the XSX in box shelves.

Many had suspicion on the XSX in entertainment centres & its cooling after seeing the lego built parts inside. And now zealot xbox guys are saying stuff is over heating & shutting down. Xbox better fix it. They should come out and say its not for entertainment centres.Less stress in the long run.

 

[Pedro Motta]

Linus video comparing XSX and XoX

These kinds of loose and inaccurate "previews" get on my nerves.

 

[sircaw]

Apparently MS marketing in BZ goofed and called it "xBOX One Series X"

ok now i remember, this was a couple of weeks ago lol, see that's the problem, i don't even know the right name so the joke goes right over me ffs.

 

[Setsuna Mudou]

I hear ya, it could be possible. anything is possible.

I do however think the most likely culprit is like HeisenbergFX4 said, these idiots are jamming the console into their sock draw and playing games for 10 hours straight.

I can't not stress this enough, i seriously doubt Microsoft would of fucked up on their design so it overheats like this, its not a design problem, its a user error problem i would thing 99.999 sure of that.

I mean @X-Fighter threatened to burn down my entire village for saying the console blew hot, i mean after this new information has come out, it kinda turns out i was right. Send bricks and wood you bastard so i can start rebuilding


I am just interested in hearing now are people allowed to discuss these issues without being permabanned, that's all.

Why would you doubt they royally fucked up here? Wasn't this the same company that brought us the infamous RRoD?

Looking purely at how cramped all the components are inside that thing, it wouldn't surprise me one bit these claims have some merit.

People have said the console runs quiet, which is only a great thing if it runs cool as well.

 

[Bo_Hazem]

i suspect a huge config and it's funny this was uploaded today

I believe the guy is using PCIe 3.0 NVMe m.2.

Playstation 5 [PS5] [Release November 12 2020]

DMC 5 Special edition PS5 load in 4 seconds or less against 24 seconds on PS4 From a youtube video of a japanese streamer This is faster than PC version with a SSD. Good optimization 3 to 4 seconds depending of the mission. It's a good game for those that haven't played it. Great speed up...

forum.beyond3d.com

 

[JTCx]

DMC5: PS5 vs PS4 vs XOX vs PC "NVMe m.2" loading times:





Thanks to zaitsu

EDIT: Note that PS5 was loaded faster but the player lagged a bit to press X.

Absolutely amazing. One of my top games this gen got even better. Time to S rank DMD mode with Vergil

 

[Mr Moose]

Apparently MS marketing in BZ goofed and called it "xBOX One Series X"

I blame Major Nelson.

 

[sircaw]

Why would you doubt they royally fucked up here? Wasn't this the same company that brought us the infamous RRoD?

Looking purely at how cramped all the components are inside that thing, it wouldn't surprise me one bit these claims have some merit.

People have said the console runs quiet, which is only a great thing if it runs cool as well.

I am trying so hard not to get Banned DAMMIT.

Don't ask me questions that are going to get me ostracised

I am trying to be good DAMMIT.