Interesting:
Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon® Breakpoint is native 4K on XSX compared to sub-4k on PS5:
https://www.ubisoft.com/en-us/game/...host-recon-breakpoint-nextgeneration-consoles
As soon as the tools mature the gap will be far bigger.
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Three Jackdaws
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Take a deep breath my friend. You are trying too hard.
bitbydeath
Gold Member
PS5 firmware update downloading. 868MB
Edit: Notes just state it improves system performance.
Edit: Notes just state it improves system performance.
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dimaveshkin
Member
Wait, what about stability?
Tajaz2426
Psychology PhD from Wikipedia University
These are ran in BC mode, the PS5 doesn’t have 120 FPS mode. The XBox runs an emulator. Both boxes can do 120FPS in native games like the new Call of Duty. This is disingenuous, but I think you already know that. Why the constant warring?
chilichote
Member
Bittermich
Banned
Just stating facts is trying too hard?
I wonder how the reaction here would be, if the PS5 would be running the game native 4K and XSX sub 4K.
FranXico
Member
Interesting:
Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon® Breakpoint is native 4K on XSX compared to sub-4k on PS5:
https://www.ubisoft.com/en-us/game/...host-recon-breakpoint-nextgeneration-consoles
As soon as the tools mature the gap will be far bigger.
That's backwards compatibility. The PS5 runs that game as a PS4 Pro. Tools have nothing to do with that.
Bittermich
Banned
what? It’s fact still. Nothing warring about that at all. So. If PS5 is lagging behind in tools, it’s ok. If XSX is lagging behind with its tools, it’s the worst thing ever. Lol nice Goal post moving.
Tajaz2426
Psychology PhD from Wikipedia University
That is how their BC mode works. XBox runs off an emulator the PS5 runs off hardware. Their tools aren’t behind, it is just how it runs.
Don’t act coy this isn’t the first time you’ve posted this stuff. Take a break my friend, they are plastic boxes. Microsoft doesn’t care about you at all. These companies only want our money.
Edit: I think Xbox has a better way of doing BC.
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MistBreeze
Member
The TOOLS it is always the TOOLS
they need to mature
like a baby needs to grow then sit and grow more to walk etc
you do not understand people
let the series x grow a little it is just born
they need to mature
like a baby needs to grow then sit and grow more to walk etc
you do not understand people
let the series x grow a little it is just born
Snowdonhoffen
Member
haha how the goal posts move. Hilarious.
It’s just that the PS5 is more powerful. Of course lazy and unoptimized ports may run a little bit better on XSX, but still this does not mean that the XSX is much more powerful.
Dark Souls 3 Runs At 60 FPS On PS5, But On Xbox Series X It's Locked At 30 FPS - PlayStation Universe
Good news for PS5 fans! Dark Souls 3 will run much better on Sony's new console than the Xbox Series X, it's been confirmed.
www.psu.com
Truthfact, without patches:
Dark Souls 3 will be 60fps on PS5 compared to 30fps on XSX
Call of Duty Ghosts will be 1080p on PS5 compared to 720p on XSX
Assassin's Creed 4 will be 1080p on PS5 compared to 720p on XSX
There are just facts, no dreams or anything. Facts.
See how ridiculous do I look?
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Shmunter
Member
You wash that filthy mouth about Knack!
Loxus
Member
The PS5 tools will also get better.Interesting:
Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon® Breakpoint is native 4K on XSX compared to sub-4k on PS5:
https://www.ubisoft.com/en-us/game/...host-recon-breakpoint-nextgeneration-consoles
As soon as the tools mature the gap will be far bigger.
Which means XBSX will never close the gap.
Ever thought of that?
Plus we all know XBSX is also upscaled because it said the same for Valhalla.
"Native 4K" remember, look how that turned out.
Just accept Tflops don't matter like the Devs who make the games been saying all along.
Madchiken
Banned
Remember those days when people made quality FUDs.
Bro what have we done with our lives
Felessan
Member
You are really desperate.
Try next-gen games, and not BC stuff that may or may not be fixed properly for next-gen.
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Three Jackdaws
Unconfirmed Member
Source?
IllegalLemon
Member
More mature dev tools just make it easier and smoother for game devs. Those expecting a drastic uplift in performance to come from a more mature suite of tools from xbox is in for a rude awakening. It's ridiculous how people seem to think that games such as Rocket League ,which run in back compat mode through Software Emulation with a patch applied on one platform are an indication that that console is going to perform better in every occasion . It's just delusional
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Arioco
Member
Interesting:
Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon® Breakpoint is native 4K on XSX compared to sub-4k on PS5:
https://www.ubisoft.com/en-us/game/...host-recon-breakpoint-nextgeneration-consoles
As soon as the tools mature the gap will be far bigger.
- "Are you kidding me?“.
Loxus
Member
So, this is Xbox newest excuse for being out perform?
So, the PS5 tools will just stay at their current state without any performance updates?
Shio
Member
If anything the Playstation line of consoles usually see the biggest improvements throughout the consoles lifecycle, look at the launch and end games for PS1,PS2,PS3,PS4, i see no reason why PS5 will be any different.
thelastword
Banned
A few days ago John claimed (PS5 Launch livestream) he had captured Demons Souls footage for PS3, PS5 ... and a day or two later he lost it?! Other youtubers are now capable of not only doing analysis better than or as good as DF (<<VGTech, ElAnalstadobit), and also capture at 120fps.
They were ready, Digital Fundry was not.
"We can only capture 60fps, we lost material, i have to use mspaint to highlight the tearing ... " , but no-name small youtubers have the tools and the time to make a few comparisons between the next gen consoles day 1.
Anyone can capture 4K60 footage, insert the raw video into trdrop and let it do its magic ...
The crazy thing is, DF made a video saying they were preparing their tools for next gen...Richard said it explicitly. He said their current tools would not be able to measure up because of the advanced resolutions and framerates the new consoles would bring....They also wanted to better capture issues in graphics and be able to pixel count better and more reliably due to all the reconstruction techniques and point out the differences or anomalies.....
Then this gen comes up and they cant capture at 120fps, they have no been able to do a next gen video spelling out the differences in lighting and texture work between the consoles in AC Valhalla and COD, farless framerate...They are losing data north right and center as if it's their first rodeo. They are still not giving us like for like analyses and video runs...Vgtech who is a one man show has been giving screen tear data, mins, max framerates, percentages and all, straight from his video, no guesswork like DF does. His pixel counts are always bonafide too......So it appears that MS was not the only outlet who spoke a good game relative to readiness for launch and has fallen short. It seems their subsidiary DF has been caught with their panties down and their tools unprepared for next gen, just the same...
Bittermuch, if the gap was as big as you say and XBOX was so much more powerful, in this unoptimized port, it would have the better framerates through pure grunt and brute force.....
Yet, please continue the disingenuous BC 120hz spiel. Just remember that most BC games are running a higher resolution (1080P) and overall better performance over the Series X versions.....Pretty much every BC game you run on PS5 is a locked 60fps...But I know what's really going on, you really don't want these companies to patch the games you mentioned, because if they patch 120Hz in these older BC games....You know who takes pole position in that mode.......Nice try bitter.....
I'd say your expectations are "too damn high"....
...but we shall see...They said the AC video is dropping soonish...I'd say I'm miffed by this...
All before this gen started...
MS has the best software, the best tools, GDK will be a gamechanger....
Now, MS tools are behind, it's not ready......Yet what happened to all these articles by journalists that were wild-fired on forums talking about MS is way ahead of Sony in preparation for next gen? Too many things don't add up for this "tools excuse"......
Zheph
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Asynchrous compute on AMD GPU (Volcanic Island) and 64 queues cames from SPU task manager for Cell Processor.
https://patents.google.com/patent/US20070074207A1/en (Cerny was one of Invetor)
chilichote
Member
Observer: System Redux is Simply Better on PS5 Than Xbox Series X
Thanks to a ray tracing toggle and more, the PS5 version of Observer: System Redux is notably better than its Xbox Series X counterpart.www.gamespew.com
"While performance in both versions of the game can be a little shaky at times, what surprised us even more is that even with ray tracing enabled, the PS5 version of Observer: System Redux still performs better than its Xbox Series X counterpart."
Wow...
mitchman
Gold Member
That's uncalled for.
MistBreeze
Member
Why xbox series x fans make excuses?!
tools mature and such
both consoles are identical aside from couple of frames drop here and there
Tearing in some games or some hiccups
be grateful for having top of the line consoles cpu and gpu from day one
tools mature and such
both consoles are identical aside from couple of frames drop here and there
Tearing in some games or some hiccups
be grateful for having top of the line consoles cpu and gpu from day one
azertydu91
Hard to Kill
It's more like If use at its full potential the XSX can be a 12" but most of the time it's just a semi flacid one.
And instead of being floppy(and we know how much some care about flops) Ps5 is rock hard and easily ready.
BoxFresh123
Member
INC
Member
It comes with a stand now, its always stable
You are repeating this so many times that I have to ask you this: Do you really think that the different modes offered in these BC titles are because of hardware limitations? That PS5 can do 120 fps in CoD Cold War, but not in Warzone?
For CoD the developers even said that it was because the logistic effort was too high and not because of technical limitations.
thelastword
Banned
Pretty much......Only thing is in most conversations of the big console schlongs, XSS is a bit embarrassed in mentioning it's length, but it still gets play, mostly when he pays....
Metroiddarks
Member
Which camera will win the price for the best pictures one of 10 Mpx or another of 12 Mpx?
Which car will win a race one car with 100 hp or another with 120 hp?
Basically is the same thing here, you cannot reduce those devices/machine to a
single number because is more complex than that.
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Snowdonhoffen
Member
So there is a countdown on the SE site, what could it be? Averngers 2!!! jk
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mansoor1980
Member
parasite eve?So there is a countdown on the SE site, what could it be? Averngers 2!!! jk
Zheph
Member
It's for "the world ends with you"So there is a countdown on the SE site, what could it be? Averngers 2!!! jk
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Shmunter
Member
I think BC games are stuck where they are, apart from framerate unlock modes running quicker, or dynamic res staying higher.Interesting:
Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon® Breakpoint is native 4K on XSX compared to sub-4k on PS5:
https://www.ubisoft.com/en-us/game/...host-recon-breakpoint-nextgeneration-consoles
As soon as the tools mature the gap will be far bigger.
Werewolfgrandma
Banned
Were there not many more articles about Sony being ahead with Dev kits and tools? I remember a few dumb posts about Sony being behind but the overwhelming majority was that Xbox was behind and Sony was ahead. You are pushing a narrative to be petty and keep an argument going. Accept your win and move on.The crazy thing is, DF made a video saying they were preparing their tools for next gen...Richard said it explicitly. He said their current tools would not be able to measure up because of the advanced resolutions and framerates the new consoles would bring....They also wanted to better capture issues in graphics and be able to pixel count better and more reliably due to all the reconstruction techniques and point out the differences or anomalies.....
Then this gen comes up and they cant capture at 120fps, they have no been able to do a next gen video spelling out the differences in lighting and texture work between the consoles in AC Valhalla and COD, farless framerate...They are losing data north right and center as if it's their first rodeo. They are still not giving us like for like analyses and video runs...Vgtech who is a one man show has been giving screen tear data, mins, max framerates, percentages and all, straight from his video, no guesswork like DF does. His pixel counts are always bonafide too......So it appears that MS was not the only outlet who spoke a good game relative to readiness for launch and has fallen short. It seems their subsidiary DF has been caught with their panties down and their tools unprepared for next gen, just the same...
Bittermuch, if the gap was as big as you say and XBOX was so much more powerful, in this unoptimized port, it would have the better framerates through pure grunt and brute force.....
Yet, please continue the disingenuous BC 120hz spiel. Just remember that most BC games are running a higher resolution (1080P) and overall better performance over the Series X versions.....Pretty much every BC game you run on PS5 is a locked 60fps...But I know what's really going on, you really don't want these companies to patch the games you mentioned, because if they patch 120Hz in these older BC games....You know who takes pole position in that mode.......Nice try bitter.....
I'd say your expectations are "too damn high"....
I'd say I'm miffed by this...
All before this gen started...
MS has the best software, the best tools, GDK will be a gamechanger....
Now, MS tools are behind, it's not ready......Yet what happened to all these articles by journalists that were wild-fired on forums talking about MS is way ahead of Sony in preparation for next gen? Too many things don't add up for this "tools excuse"......
yes, this is due to the BC mode. Developers could fix this if they would add a switch for up to 60fps and allow the dynamic resolution got up to 4k.That's backwards compatibility. The PS5 runs that game as a PS4 Pro. Tools have nothing to do with that.
But I guess, they won't put that much work into an older title.
chilichote
Member
It was an excuse 7 years ago too^^
Garani
Member
Please stop quoting yourself. We are not your echo chamber.
Interesting:
Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon® Breakpoint is native 4K on XSX compared to sub-4k on PS5:
https://www.ubisoft.com/en-us/game/...host-recon-breakpoint-nextgeneration-consoles
As soon as the tools mature the gap will be far bigger.
Same answer for everyone:
1) B Bittermich is not quoting the important fact: it's a BC patch. This means that on PS5 it will run at most on boost mode but will not unlock graphics, because the engine would have to be re-written. In fact on the original PS4 Pro the graphics mode ranges from 1440 – 1800p with 30 FPS, while on Xbox One X graphics mode ranges from 1800 – 2160p with 30 FPS. They didn't change the engine on XSX to get native 4k: they just let the CPU run, while on PS4 Pro BC just can't hit anything better than 1800 unless you re-write the engine to accomodate for PS5's boost mode. We are not talking about a Next Gen game, we are talking about BC and its limits.
2) Tools have nothing to do about it. They didn't even touch the engine. They just made sure that it runs
And finally, B Bittermich , take some time off. You are trying so hard that you are being ridiculous.
Mr. PlayStation
Member
There's so many QOLs in PS5 that ends up being transformative. For instance I just discovered yesterday when a buddy of mine had sent me a party chat invite, I'd not plugged the headset to the controller and the tv audio was on mute. Guess what? I could hear my buddy talk via the speaker in the dual sense(which btw is tremendously improved over Dualshock4) but I also could talk back thanks to the mic. The UI feels great, though I feel it's got some quirks that one needs to get used to it. The create button and it's usages are so damn snappy. I am happy to share that the share videos are of significantly higher quality thanks to the codecs and compression algorithms. It's 60fps uploads folks, 60fps
Setsuna Mudou
Member
Interesting:
Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon® Breakpoint is native 4K on XSX compared to sub-4k on PS5:
https://www.ubisoft.com/en-us/game/...host-recon-breakpoint-nextgeneration-consoles
As soon as the tools mature the gap will be far bigger.
Do you have some cognitive issues we should be aware of? Last gen games are running (at best) on ps4 pro mode. Stop extrapolating into some power differential when the 2 console's approach to emulation is different.
The current gen versions of 3rd party games, where they are at least using the current gen machines feature set to run those games has given you mostly a close performance between the 2 consoles, with some advantages to the PS5.
A number of people have already pointed this out to you and you're either purposefully ignoring these replies to fit your agenda, or you're simply not mentally equipped to understand it. In either case it's pretty annoying, just so you know.
MasterCornholio
Member
Setsuna Mudou
Member
Stability? That's why they included the stand + screw out of the box. Can't get any more stable if you tried
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