HAL-01
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This was already posted before, it's an edited clip from yongyea's review with the volume levels turned up the wazoo
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This was already posted before, it's an edited clip from yongyea's review with the volume levels turned up the wazoo
Handy Fake
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Think the question mark is whether the motherboard for the retail XSX going out to consumers has 20GB of LPDDR3 ram or just the motherboard for the servers?
I really appreciate his insight, but I'm honestly not sure why he comes in here. I've only been around a wee bit, but every time he responds people come out of the woodwork to attack him.
New feature for the PS4. Sony just released a new app so you can stream your PS5 games from your local console to the PS4.
This is indeed a nice feature and can help that the PS4 has still a purpose in a household.
But at the same time Sony shows, that PS5 games work fine with PS4 controllers. Yes they don't support the new immersion, etc, but they work. So they are artificially exclude PS4 controllers from the PS5 games so you need new PS5 controllers for couch coop, but at the same time they prove, that the games have no problems with PS4 controllers.
I really get why you should play with a PS5 controller single-player games, but with couch-coop it would be really nice to at least support PS4 controllers for the second/third/fourth/... player.
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This is indeed a nice feature and can help that the PS4 has still a purpose in a household.
But at the same time Sony shows, that PS5 games work fine with PS4 controllers. Yes they don't support the new immersion, etc, but they work. So they are artificially exclude PS4 controllers from the PS5 games so you need new PS5 controllers for couch coop, but at the same time they prove, that the games have no problems with PS4 controllers.
I really get why you should play with a PS5 controller single-player games, but with couch-coop it would be really nice to at least support PS4 controllers for the second/third/fourth/... player.
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Werewolfgrandma
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Better is so subjective. Really hope all next gen games are running and looking great on both consoles. Let's work together and push devs to be better rather than blaming the consoles this time. Both seem great.
Handy Fake
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He's a Geordie, man. T-shirts in December, cheesy chips for every meal. Takes more than a messageboard to take that lad down.
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geordiemp
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MS even say its a server design for the XSX CPU, the XSX is designed around running 4 x xb1 games (4 shader arrays) again this was said by MS themselves. So its not a theory, its fact.
So some other things in the main PCB with the APU that are needed for the blade application will also be in the XSX is of course possible.
But the 20 GB story is a mystery and we dont know if there are 2 different main PCB motherboard variants..
I doubt console games would use the 20 GB for anything, as how would that scale to the series S ?
I pop in in my spare time, supposed to be working at the moment lol, I will look into his later tonight if I have time.
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zufuel
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M1chl
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I mean I don't think it sounds bad, you simply cannot go around this, when you need to spin disc at x angle speed to reach particular data rate....
geordiemp
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Thank goodness, we dont want yanky tearing game to be praised and everyone needs a new TV to enjoy the game without cutting my eyeballs.
Tearing and bad frame rates cannot be acceptable by having to use a freesync monitor or a new TV with that feature, these are consoles.
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Shmunter
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Yeah, solid 60. You want to unlock above for 60-120, be my guest
SlimySnake
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They did not. Gonna need some proof here bud.
Zzpaff
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Playstation 5 review: 'If the PS4 was greatness awaits, the PS5 is greatness realised'
By Jordan Middler // BBC The Social contributor // 9 November 2020
By Jordan Middler // BBC The Social contributor // 9 November 2020
carloseduardocd
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It's 4 lanes PCIE 3.0 or 2 lanes PCIE 4.0. Both at same maximum theorical speed 3.94GB/s.
I guess the internal SSD is pcie 3.0 because it's cheaper than 2 lanes pcie 4.0. But doesn't matter.
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M1chl
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WD drives when, then?
v_iHuGi
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No no every Xbox is suddenly turned into a VRR compatible TV.
I can't wait for these videos, watching a stream on SX looks like it drops to 50 fps on some cutscenes, resolution drops badly, my guess? 1600p or so.
Should have been quiet & let the game come out, celebrating victories ahead of time now enjoy what's to come.
Physiognomonics
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Lower.No no every Xbox is suddenly turned into a VRR compatible TV.
I can't wait for these videos, watching a stream on SX looks like it drops to 50 fps on some cutscenes, resolution drops badly, my guess? 1600p or so.
Should have been quiet & let the game come out, celebrating victories ahead of time now enjoy what's to come.
sandkiller
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Moses85
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Handy Fake
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Hangar 51
"Everyday[sic] powerful artifacts are being discovered by people who have no idea what to do with them. Something has to be done." ―Man in suit[src] Hangar 51 was a United States military installation located in Nevada. Officially a storage facility for replacement B-series aircraft parts...
Razzy-
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I think those who raised the point of it being Gen 3 cause the WD website mentioned it as is. Gen 3. Its OEM tho. Link: https://www.westerndigital.com/products/internal-drives/pc-sn530-ssd
Clarification is good. It is a custom SSD for XSX. So i don't really think it is FUD as it was incomplete info and based as per what i mentioned above.
This can be put to rest now. Let's move on. Next Gen is here! enjoy the games on both systems.
INC
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Ps5 and xbx for greatness you'll have to wait
jasondefaoite
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No. It's only two lanes internal. So if the drive was Gen3, max is 2GB/s. If the drive is custom and is Gen4, then it's 2.4GB/s based off the spec of the drive.
v_iHuGi
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Not much, lower it might go is 1440p.
jasondefaoite
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So Adolf, you can untwist your knickers. There was no attempt at FUD. General questions on how a Gen3 drive + 2 lanes could give 2.4GB/s. Answer, it can't.
At least in this thread. I don't typically read the rest.
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THE:MILKMAN
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Just as I suspected yesterday then. I'm not sure why yourself and many other Xbox fans have angrily called FUD, though? I personally just commented about how it doesn't seem to be an elegant solution given the time MS say they have been working on integrating a SSD into a console (I called it a hodgepodge!) but in the end it is all irrelevant when the damn drive is specced to 2.4GB/s anyway, way within Gen3 speeds!
ethomaz
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There is patch from what I removed.
And the devs where clear that only the performer mode reaches 60fps.
ethomaz
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Can I use that pic? I'm already using before your reply
ToadMan
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JonnyMP3
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Only if you photoshop in a big Mod of War rating of 20/10.Can I use that pic? I'm already using before your reply
Insane Metal
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Mr Moose
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*Does some quick math*
That's the same thing, 4GBs. 3.0 x1 = 1GBs (right?) 4.0 x1 = 2GBs?
ethomaz
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They are still calling FUD in the thread.
It was nice to see the previous teardown was indeed true.
ethomaz
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Edit - Seems like the PCI-E 4.0 has a increase in clock.
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Yes, that's right. The only reason to use 2 lanes instead of 4 is, that 2 lanes are much simpler to route and is enough for their desired speed target. It is as simple as that. Just to reduce the cost a bit more with things, they just don't need.
ToadMan
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I've got bad news for you this news confirms
1. This is a PCIe gen 3 drive customised to interface to a reduced PCIe 4 interface
2. it won't achieve 2.4Gb/s sustained. It'll be about 1.9gb/s.
The article you linked included what many had theorised
" special ASIC that enables bothPCIe Gen3 x4 and Gen4 x2"
They've mapped the default drive's x4 gen 3 lanes to x2 gen 4 lanes. That's the same overall bandwidth.
Unfortunately by implication this confirms it's a stock unit in terms of its bandwidth which means the benchmarks for it are also confirmed.
https://www.notebookcheck.net/WDC-PC-SN530-SDBPNPZ-1T00-SSD-Benchmarks.476624.0.html
Hendrick's
If only my penis was as big as my GamerScore!
No it was not true, but don't let reality stand in your way. That whole thread is about it being Gen 3 which it is clearly not.
ethomaz
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It was very true.
The previous teardown showed a WD SN530... today teardown of retail units shows a WD SN530.
So much for FUD and debunked lol
Mr Moose
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How long does it take on PS4?
ethomaz
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I think there won't be any limitation because physical lanes for PCI-E 3.0 and PCI-E 4.0 are the same... what changes is the protocol of PCI-E to travel the date that is optimized to archive the double of data traveling (basically they use compressions).
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Hendrick's
If only my penis was as big as my GamerScore!
Why are you ignoring the article and comment from WD which clearly says the opposite?
ethomaz
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If you can wait at least 2 minutes to enter in the menu screen I can clock a match for you....
"the Xbox Series X's WD SN530 SSD"
Can't you read? All teardown that the green people tried to call FUD and debunked turned out true.
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