Arthur, Arthur...
Sun is 2km from earth there?
I think that if you draw lines up from those god rays, the sun would actually be inside the clouds.
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Next-gen Racing Graphics Face-off | (Next-gen means current-gen)
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I think that if you draw lines up from those god rays, the sun would actually be inside the clouds.
Masterbrew
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Was Evolution allowed to bring their graphics engine with them when they left Sony?
thelastword
Banned
Well, since you placed that shot under the IQ comment I thought you were using that to show That DC's IQ never got improved or it's bad compared to FH3. As I've said there are pics of FH3 and even FH2 with visible Jaggies on the cars, yet DC never claimed to be using 4xMSAA. There are also pics showing serious AF issues in the Horizon titles as well.No, it's showing the wake behind the car as it drives through water.
Here's another showing deformation.
As for deformation, I spoke of deformation in the sand and some static looking pools by the beachside. The video shows how the game looks and plays in realtime. Any deformation in the sand is quickly corrected after the hummer comes to a standstill when the camera loops. I never mentioned water deformation but instead spoke on splashes from water puddles. In any case, it's much easier to mimick water deformation because after you leave the water, it just goes back to being calm or lacking detail from a distance.
Perhaps what you could do is to post a video showing FH3 behaving differently from the video I posted in water sources.
Not a swerve, I thought he was using that pic to indicate that DC has IQ issues compared to FH3. In any case, he said that DC's IQ never improved from launch, but even now I don't see the terrible IQ that people speak of when they mention DC. I don't think that's so hard to grasp, but I digress. DC has AF, sometimes it's questionable that Horizon has any. DC has nice AA coverage, clean power lines, you hardly see jaggies on cars, detail can be resolved easily and clearly with it's huge draw distance. I don't think FH3 wins the IQ debate as some people say..
Also a question......?
Is the AF here so bad?
Looks solid enough to me...
TheAdmiester
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Because there really isn't a debate in terms of IQ.
Lys Skygge
Member
Yeah in terms of IQ, FH3 absolutely shits on DC. With that said, I'd say Driveclub is a technically better looking game than FH3 in almost everything else.
What about here on an actual gameplay shot?
I can also cherrypick. Taste your own poison:
TheAdmiester
Member
A PS4 Pro with Driveclub upscaled to 4k to your TV would look fantastic. Any chances you are acquiring one and sharing shots?
NullPointer
Member
What about here on an actual gameplay shot?
In 99 levels worth of driving I've never seen anything like that.
But how can you judge the AF with all that motion blur?
and I just wanted an excuse to post my favorite Driveclub screenshot lol
I can also cherrypick. Taste your own poison:
lmfao I don't even have an xbox. What the hell are you trying to imply here?
TrojanBlade
Member
What about here on an actual gameplay shot?
Looks like game didn't load the assets or something. Never seen it anything close to this. As usual cherry picking the worse.
Yeah, I'm playing at Native 4k. No upscale.
LostDonkey
Member
I'm on the side of FH3 here. Except the water effect on the windscreen, I think it looks better than DC in every way. The clouds in FH3 are in another level as is the lighting and texture work.
It's an incredible looking game all of the time vs a great looking game in certain conditions.
It's an incredible looking game all of the time vs a great looking game in certain conditions.
TheAdmiester
Member
This is downsampled from 4K so I'm cheating a bit for IQ, but look at that lighting:
That's probably because it was 99 levels of not driving at 0km/h?
Unreal
Member
In 99 levels worth of driving I've never seen anything like that.
I took that screenshot a year ago for this thread:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=184651574&postcount=7495
Try it yourself:
Driveclub (gameplay):
NullPointer
Member
Thanks for this, and I did.
And yeah, that is a perfect storm of bad conditions. The time of day on that course does not look great in sunny weather, and you get all that noise on the car because its actually in the midst of light precipitation, and has that wet-just-after-the-rain-stopped look going on, which looks great at other angles.
I never saw this kind of thing because I always drive in cockpit view, and don't do drift events, so skipped that particular event on the tour.
So yeah, its accurate, and ugly, but nowhere near representative.
Inf3cted_b3ast
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I just stopped reading after that DF Need for Speed thread honestly
TheAdmiester
Member
Damn, I didn't even make that connection.
Fortinbras
Member
That would be great. Imagine what they could do on PC and Scorpio.
DriveClub looks phenomenal during weather, but on some maps with no weather (as can be seen above) it really looks bland and unimpressive. Overall, FH3 takes the IQ crown for me personally, after playing FH3 on both PC and XB1 and DriveClub. It's just much cleaner when there's minimal aliasing in the picture.
MaxwellParrish
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I don't get your point here?
Arthur, Arthur...
Sun is 2km from earth there?
Isn't characteristic of crepuscolar rays to seems to be originated from the point in the sky there the sun is and to not look like being parallel?
Except from definition/detail, what's that different in that shot from this:
or these:
PS: I don't speak a good english, so I wold like to clarify that this is a real question not a snarky remark or something like that
Chucke1992
Banned
Everytime when somebody want to claim DC superiority he shows some screen with weather effect (rain in particular) lol (though rain in DC indeed looks spectacular (they definitely nailed the lighting and water on the road)
dr guildo
Member
Even if it's indeed true, DC has dry moments as great as rainy ones
Here are shots from the official photomode thread of the game, with courtesy of Benzy :
dr guildo
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Aceofspades
Banned
Updated a better Forza Australian Skybox Timelapse
It's a bad example of F6...
Might as well compare DC to GT Sport. 60fps sims will never hold up to 30fps games.
That's why DC and Horizon 3 look much better.
Tripolygon
Banned
You can see the textures morph and swap, its kind of off putting. Looks good while driving but when you stand still, you see the limitations.
Tripolygon
Banned
MilkyJoe
Member
I don't get your point here?
Isn't characteristic of crepuscolar rays to seems to be originated from the point in the sky there the sun is and to not look like being parallel?
Except from definition/detail, what's that different in that shot from this:
or these:
PS: I don't speak a good english, so I wold like to clarify that this is a real question not a snarky remark or something like that
Dude if you have to ask then you'll never know.
Inf3cted_b3ast
Member
Sure man everytime.
MaxwellParrish
Member
Thanks for the really helpful response
dr guildo
Member
Agreed !
The first part of the video is mesmerizing, the rest is a bit messy.
Less convincing than DC, overall.
None of the screenshots here of DC look good on a 4k screen. FH3 looks incredible at 4k.
If the game got a full makeover (erasing the muddy/clay looking textures and LOD), now that would be incredible.
Quit looking at the quoted size shots or at this stuff on a phone, LOL
This for example...
..looks like a jagged blurry textured mess on my 1080p screen and down right atrocious on my 4k TV.
GoldenCrow
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Shandy you have to be joking. You are playing one game on PC with a shit load more powerful hardware which is outputting a native 4k resolution whilst you are looking at images captured on a PS4 outputting 1080p. You seriously have to be having a laugh because that statement above in any other context sounds idiotic.
Those look ok. A little flat, though. What's with the vertical line cutting off the tree in the middle on the picture on the left? Looks like a rendering bug.
Too bad you can't drive over that stuff. Look but don't touch!
Put a danger sign ramp where the black banner is on the photo on the right and you have a perfect launch point for some real fun!Wheeee!
Chucke1992
Banned
And suddenly there is no "generation" gap in graphics like some people claims lol Magic dissapears
I took that screenshot a year ago for this thread:
Jagged (and slightly blurry on the sides) mess. But again - dat road rainy textures
The definitive improvement Forza and Driveclub need is a decent career mode. They both suck, but look gorgeous.
It's been said a thousand times in this thread that Driveclub uses temporal AA, and don't look that jagged when things are moving.
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