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Next-gen Racing Graphics Face-off | (Next-gen means current-gen)
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Project cars 2 trailer:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0YrrK92fQmk
Is Driveclub's reign under threat?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0YrrK92fQmk
Is Driveclub's reign under threat?
And we should expect it to look much better than this?
It's just a face-off thread, we can start judging by this early footage already. For instance, the moment where it shows the windshield with the wipers working would make for a good comparison Gif.
icecold1983
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DirgeExtinction
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Wasn't PC one of the best looking racers on PC?
icecold1983
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thats because prior to PC the best looking racers on pc were ports of gen 7 console games. it kind of won there by default. project cars looks a whole lot worse than driveclub regardless of platform
PCars 2 doesn't seem to have much priority on visuals, which is disappointing, but understandable. They only seem to have added some new features without upgrading old ones much.
I really hope they upgraded their engine to PBR in that time.
Leaked trailer and screenshots.
icecold1983
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pcars 2 ultra footage courtesy of nvidia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7x8KzBPiOAA
still not a fan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7x8KzBPiOAA
still not a fan
drotahorror
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I'm bracing myself for disappointment. I'll be shocked if they get the resources to create something that looks better than DC let alone on the same level. I'm just going to be pessimistic going into it hah. I do think that whatever they work on, gameplay wise, will be brilliant.
Just seems really vanilla. But without showing weather, on a track like that, I feel it's hard to really wow people.
sems4arsenal
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Welcome to the gen PD
Sebmugi
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Welcome to the gen PD
The first GIF of a very long series ^^ Really reassured by this GT sport, at least visually, I think we will have the new standard of rendering photorealism
drotahorror
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video was pulled.
The image itself or the actual game, that has the rendering resolution (4k) shown on screen?
the image. seems weird to release an image of a game running at 4k in sub 1080p.
F O L L O W T H E M O N E Y
At least in the video it came from, they showed a zoomed 1:1 pixel version of it that was native. I think we just happen to be seeing a smaller version of the image.
BADNED
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You can find the download link to the full 4K PNG image in the Eurogamer article: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2017-project-scorpio-tech-revealed
Can some experts offer an analysis of what we are looking at vs what is available right now on this thread and how is it better?
According to Rich himself, what we're looking at is a tech demo based on Forza 6 running with more or less the same graphics settings as standard Xbone, but obviously at 4 times the resolution and with the 4K textures enabled.
Other than that, not really much to analyse. The low GPU and RAM usage displayed is pretty swanky though. Bears well for more graphical to come.
Regarding the screenshot
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2017-04-06-project-scorpio-explained
FM6 didn't have dynamic weather or TOD
This tech demo does though, the sky looks straight out of FH3.
Could be possibly hinted at dynamic TOD/Weather for FM7?
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2017-04-06-project-scorpio-explained
FM6 didn't have dynamic weather or TOD
This tech demo does though, the sky looks straight out of FH3.
Could be possibly hinted at dynamic TOD/Weather for FM7?
forza 6 did have weather. it just wasn't dynamic ala driveclub. i see no evidence in a screenshot to suggest it's now dynamic? also, you can see the limitations of it being current xbone graphical settings in the reflections in the road, it only goes 4 cars deep. i'd assume fully optimized for scorpio it would run the full track?
Wax Free Vanilla
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From what I've seen, the starting grid can be one of the more demanding moments in a race. I've definitely seen games force rolling starts on full-grid events as a performance workaround, or running those scenes at half-capped framerates. Presumably, they designed that scene as a stress-test.
sems4arsenal
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Hope they improve on their lighting even further, it's the area where GT is clearly superior. Doesn't seem like PCARS 2 will be much competition to both GT and Forza in terms of visuals.
Sebmugi
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At the time of the start maybe but there .. I can not see how stopped vehicles are more difficult to calculate than cars moving but either .. why not..
TheAdmiester
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To be fair, the scene about 3 seconds after that screenshot would be a bigger stress test - Forza spews up a huge amount of particles in the rain. Having to resolve all of those alpha/depth issues with 24 cars visible would be a great test of GPU usage.
But yeah, a full grid at the starting line, at true 4K with EQAA and Forza's immense LOD cars at 66% GPU? Yeah, that's impressive.
I think that early footage they put out for PCars2 killed people's expectations. It really looked like a mess, but I've put a decent amount of time into PCars1, and I know the lighting (especially halfway between the peak times of day) can be gorgeous, even if it has other snaggletooths.
I'm curious how they push the visuals in 2.
Totally agree on the lighting. Forza running at 4K/60 with better lighting on par with GTS would be quite the sight.
Leadbetter stated the entire demo ranged from 55% with one car on the screen to 70% with everything going on.
Leadbetter stated the entire demo ranged from 55% with one car on the screen to 70% with everything going on.
sems4arsenal
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On PC it did look pretty nice but on consoles it was pretty much a mixed bag.
They supposedly have 4K/60fps game capture built into the overhead, which could easily chew through a lot of that. We've seen this implementation of blocking off the "worst case scenario" amount of ram in the initial firmware in the Xbox division for more than a decade (and releasing more for games as time goes on). Sony ran into trouble with the PS3 where they didn't allocate enough non-essential ram initially, and were never able to implement things like cross-game voice chat as a result.
Don't be suprised OS is trimmed with further optimizations. It's happened with XBOX 360, XBOX ONE, and definitely Scorpio
Is this a grave... or a throne?
Can some experts offer an analysis of what we are looking at vs what is available right now on this thread and how is it better?
looks solid up close......but whats the AA solution? It gets really, really jaggy beyond those initial 2 cars
its probably just a quick port/test shot.....really interested in this in the future
TheAdmiester
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It's listed in the dev information near the top, 2xEQAA.
They said specifically this is the same IQ/LOD settings from the XB1 game, so AA/AF is the same as it is on FM6 right now (2xEQAA). They pulled in the 4K textures, though.
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