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[Turk1993]

Forza Horizon 4. Playground Games is working their magic again.

Locked 60fps in 1080p mode or locked 30 in 4k mode on Xbox One X. Most boring framerate test ever.


Check out the dynamic shadows at 3:20. They have a performance/quality graphics quality screen shot later in the video, too.

There are rumors of a demo soon.

The way the foliage looks and reacts with the car is amazing and the lighting looks incredible, you can see some nice GI in that Ford video. Just 16 day left before i got my hand on this game.

Forza Horizon 4 looks incredible, so does this,

Assetto Corsa Competizione

Yeah ACC is shaping up really well, its probably gonna be the best looking sim out there.

 

[ShapeGSX]

The Forza Horizon Demo is out for both Windows 10 and Xbox One!

https://majornelson.com/2018/09/12/...r-xbox-one-and-windows-10-xbox-play-anywhere/

 

[Turk1993]

Forza Horizon 4 PC Ultra 1080p( can't downsample right now )
gameplay

photomode

 

[DemonCleaner]

Looks alot like drive club. Awesome!

 

[TheAdmiester]

Looks alot like drive club. Awesome!

I feel the same way when I see some of the more foliage-heavy pics. Open-world, 60FPS Driveclub-like graphics on PC... perfection.

 

[Stuart360]

Those FH4 pics look ridiculous, too good.

 

[Inviusx]

Looks damn good for an open world racer. Shame that 4k mode caps at 30fps.

 

[Rogas]

Yeah, Forza Horizon 4 takes the crown. DriveClub is still stuck at 1080p/30fps with terrible image quality (Sony why don't you make a pro patch!?) and GT: Sport looks fantastic but it's kind of inconsistent especially gameplay versus replays.

Forza Horizon 4 is way more consistent, has better environmental detail, equally impressive lighting and superb IQ.

 

[DemonCleaner]

I feel the same way when I see some of the more foliage-heavy pics.

i think most of it comes from them finally getting the lighting right.

does anybody know if they acquired some talent from Evolution Studios?

anyways, im hyped. seems like there is a demo live now on xbox and Windows 10 store.

 

[Gingen]

Yeah, Forza Horizon 4 takes the crown. DriveClub is still stuck at 1080p/30fps with terrible image quality (Sony why don't you make a pro patch!?) and GT: Sport looks fantastic but it's kind of inconsistent especially gameplay versus replays.

Forza Horizon 4 is way more consistent, has better environmental detail, equally impressive lighting and superb IQ.

1080p 60fps on one X (6 TF), aracade physics

1800p 60fps on PRO (4 TF), sim physics (1 year ago game)

 

[Rogas]

1080p 60fps on one X (6 TF), aracade physics

1800p 60fps on PRO (4 TF), sim physics (1 year ago game)

It's nice that you're proving my point, thanks for that.

Whilst FH4 still looks better, GT: Sport sure looks nice in screens then once you start driving around, you'll see how ugly it can get. Why don't you zoom into the environment or show us the "beautiful" rally tracks?

 

[MilkyJoe]

1080p 60fps on one X (6 TF), aracade physics

1800p 60fps on PRO (4 TF), sim physics (1 year ago game)

No contest there. FH4 on every level.

 

[Gingen]

It's nice that you're proving my point, thanks for that.

Whilst FH4 still looks better, GT: Sport sure looks nice in screens then once you start driving around, you'll see how ugly it can get. Why don't you zoom into the environment or show us the "beautiful" rally tracks?

GT sport looks tons better in movement than on screenshot.... and the rally tracks looks very good for a 1800p 60 fps game with sim physics on a 4TF console

 

[petrus91]

GT sport looks tons better in movement than on screenshot.... and the rally tracks looks very good for a 1800p 60 fps game with sim physics on a 4TF console

Sim physics...AC, PC, iR, Richard Burns and some other sims are crying blood.

 

[Rogas]

GT sport looks tons better in movement than on screenshot.... and the rally tracks looks very good for a 1800p 60 fps game with sim physics on a 4TF console

But it doesn't look better than FH4, which is the point of this thread. It puzzles me that the people who pointed out Forza's cartoony lighting for years are angry that FH4's lighting is the gold standard now lol.

 

[Hage Kamo]

GTS

FH4

 

[TBiddy]

1080p 60fps on one X (6 TF), aracade physics

1800p 60fps on PRO (4 TF), sim physics (1 year ago game)

Open-world vs. closed circuit, and yet FH4 beats GT:S handidly. I'm not sure you meant to prove that, but somehow you managed to anyways.

 

[Hage Kamo]

I have never heard of a sim without "telemetry"/
GTS is sim? HAHA noway.

 

[Louis Cyphre]

GTS

FH4

Even in open world it has excellent draw distance, pretty amazing.

 

[Allandor]

Even in open world it has excellent draw distance, pretty amazing.

well, don't forget it is a 30fps vs a 60fps title … well at least if you don't count the 1080p/60fps mode, but than the resolution is lower again.

 

[Louis Cyphre]

well, don't forget it is a 30fps vs a 60fps title … well at least if you don't count the 1080p/60fps mode, but than the resolution is lower again.

Not on the PC but even if we look at the 1080p and 60fps mode on the X it is VERY impressive for an open world racing title.

Forza Horizon 4 Xbox One X 60fps

This is gameplay, not touched up photomode screens.

 

[Neo 007]

The hands on that wheel is all I see.

 

[Rogas]

GTS

FH4

That's the GT: Sport we know and love: utterly beautiful one track and downright ugly the other. Gorgeous in replays, downgraded in gameplay.

 

[Tesseract]

these kinda look like shit, where's the fidelity

 

[Gingen]

But it doesn't look better than FH4, which is the point of this thread. It puzzles me that the people who pointed out Forza's cartoony lighting for years are angry that FH4's lighting is the gold standard now lol.

FH4 lighting is still cartoony

GTS

FH4

au usual cherry picking images from GT... you are very booring

well, don't forget it is a 30fps vs a 60fps title … well at least if you don't count the 1080p/60fps mode, but than the resolution is lower again.

this

 

[LuvOfThaGame]

GTS

FH4

FH4 looks incredible. GT looks good, but Horizon is the clear winner.

 

[cypherq]

FH4 looks absolutely glorious... 1080p@60fps looks fantastic on the X.

Given that FH4 is an open world racer makes it even more impressive... especially next to circuit bound racers like GT:S.

 

[phil_t98]

played the Demo today and am impressed and tried both modes on my X, cars feel a bit sluggish to turn compared to FH3 but maybe its just because I aint played it for a while. best looking driving game I have played personal and the change in seasons will add to it so much graphically to

 

[Rogas]

FH4 lighting is still cartoony



au usual cherry picking images from GT... you are very booring



this

You seem angry.

 

[GTR R35_Supra RZ]

You seem angry.

That sir is going through salty peanut butter and jelly period atm..I would to if I only had GT at my disposal.

 

[Gingen]

You seem angry.

I am very calm, but I noticed that someone get very angry if you mention that GTS on a less powerful console has a way higher resolution in "performance mode", and double framerate in "quality mode"....

That sir is going through salty peanut butter and jelly period atm..I would to if I only had GT at my disposal.

Sadly I don't like this kind of "free roaming super arcade" racing games... so I'm not salty at all

 

[Louis Cyphre]

I am very calm, but I noticed that someone get very angry if you mention that that GTS on a less powerful console has a way higher resolution in "performance mode", and double framerate in "quality mode"....



Sadly I don't like this kind of "free roaming super arcade" racing games... so I'm not salty at all

Oh of course your don't. Let me guess, you like Driveclub and Motorstorm though.

This game is also rock solid, the engine is stable 30 or 60 and native 4k if you choose. Plus it can handle more players online and is open world. Glad you are impressed as well.

 

[thelastword]

1080p 60fps on one X (6 TF), aracade physics

1800p 60fps on PRO (4 TF), sim physics (1 year ago game)

The lighting and shadows in GTS is impeccable, perfect lighting for that time of day and under the heavy canopy, just superb work done really...

GTS

FH4

Dirt track vs Road, but still what is immediately noticeable is the superior lighting and shadows in the top pic, the better draw distance especially how much high level detail is resolved way into the mountains. AF on GT is also pretty good and texture detail aces......I shudder to think what PD will do with a higher end GPU, CPU and memory if this is what we're getting from a PS4 base of 1.6Ghz, 4.5GB of memory and a 7870.....The only upside on PRO being a higher resolution, better framerate on replays and more MB at 1080p.......That base game on vanilla PS4 sure is something to get all those dynamic shadows, better cubemaps for reflections, better lighting and general detail going.....and did I hear PD had some raytracing in there as well??? By the gods....

It's why I say, and thanks for the link @Driver86 (on the outsourcing), that PD would do good to put GT7 on PS5 day 1 in 2020.....

 

[Bogroll]

1080p 60fps on one X (6 TF), aracade physics

1800p 60fps on PRO (4 TF), sim physics (1 year ago game)

Really does look baron GTS on side of the track. The fence on the left looks a bit floaty. Way too flat that grass.

 

[TheAdmiester]

The lighting and shadows in GTS is impeccable, perfect lighting for that time of day and under the heavy canopy, just superb work done really...

Dirt track vs Road, but still what is immediately noticeable is the superior lighting and shadows in the top pic, the better draw distance especially how much high level detail is resolved way into the mountains. AF on GT is also pretty good and texture detail aces......I shudder to think what PD will do with a higher end GPU, CPU and memory if this is what we're getting from a PS4 base of 1.6Ghz, 4.5GB of memory and a 7870.....The only upside on PRO being a higher resolution, better framerate on replays and more MB at 1080p.......That base game on vanilla PS4 sure is something to get all those dynamic shadows, better cubemaps for reflections, better lighting and general detail going.....and did I hear PD had some raytracing in there as well??? By the gods....

It's why I say, and thanks for the link @Driver86 (on the outsourcing), that PD would do good to put GT7 on PS5 day 1 in 2020.....

Never change.

 

[ShapeGSX]

Never change.

By the gods...

 

[Bogroll]

thelastwally fails to mention the lower draw distance in high rez mode on Pro tho.

 

[phil_t98]

The lighting and shadows in GTS is impeccable, perfect lighting for that time of day and under the heavy canopy, just superb work done really...

Dirt track vs Road, but still what is immediately noticeable is the superior lighting and shadows in the top pic, the better draw distance especially how much high level detail is resolved way into the mountains. AF on GT is also pretty good and texture detail aces......I shudder to think what PD will do with a higher end GPU, CPU and memory if this is what we're getting from a PS4 base of 1.6Ghz, 4.5GB of memory and a 7870.....The only upside on PRO being a higher resolution, better framerate on replays and more MB at 1080p.......That base game on vanilla PS4 sure is something to get all those dynamic shadows, better cubemaps for reflections, better lighting and general detail going.....and did I hear PD had some raytracing in there as well??? By the gods....

It's why I say, and thanks for the link @Driver86 (on the outsourcing), that PD would do good to put GT7 on PS5 day 1 in 2020.....

how are the shadows better? they are fuzzy

 

[Calibos]

At face value, GTS and Horizon aren't really comparable. Fully open world with seasons and always online roaming puts Horizon in a different genre...That being said, GTS doesn't have anything on FH 4...It just doesn't.

 

[ShapeGSX]

how are the shadows better? they are fuzzy

The gods prefer fuzzy shadows.

 

[Stuart360]

Slightly off topic but anyone else think 'TheLastWord' is just a joke account, kind of a living meme?. It would explain how he hasn't been banned yet for his constant fanboy trolling, he certainly wouldnt of lasted 2 hours under the old Neogaf lol.

 

[phil_t98]

Slightly off topic but anyone else think 'TheLastWord' is just a joke account, kind of a living meme?. It would explain how he hasn't been banned yet for his constant fanboy trolling, he certainly wouldnt of lasted 2 hours under the old Neogaf lol.

agreed and anything positive on the Xbox side is alway met with negative news or some kind of fanboyisim but it entertains. Forza Horizon 4 is shaping up to be one of if not the best racer this gen

 

[Turk1993]

Came back to see the reactions, saw these 2 trolls still denying that FH4 looking better than GTS. They even post images that shows clearly that FH4 looking better in almost every aspect. This game has no competition this gen, you guys need to deal with it. Anyway here are some more gameplay shots

 

[Stuart360]

The trees and foliage in FH4 looks amazing, all 3D and it really adds to the depth.

 

[BigLee74]

Dirt track vs Road, but still what is immediately noticeable is the superior lighting and shadows in the top pic, the better draw distance especially how much high level detail is resolved way into the mountains.

Wrong, there is nothing superior about the GTS pic. What's particularly awful about that pic are the square looking trees (at least I think they're meant to be trees) to the right of the arch a few hundred metres down the road. Shockingly poor.

I'm guessing you're in a bad place right now, because there is no way you can position any PS4 racing game over FH4 without sounding even more ridiculous than you have for the past year. And that's saying something.

Can't wait to see you try though, always a laugh.

 

[phil_t98]

Came back to see the reactions, saw these 2 trolls still denying that FH4 looking better than GTS. They even post images that shows clearly that FH4 looking better in almost every aspect. This game has no competition this gen, you guys need to deal with it. Anyway here are some more gameplay shots

Just looks better and better dont it

 

[Bliman]

1080p 60fps on one X (6 TF), aracade physics

1800p 60fps on PRO (4 TF), sim physics (1 year ago game)

Lol Gran Turismo sim physics. You wish.

 

[GTR R35_Supra RZ]

Came back to see the reactions, saw these 2 trolls still denying that FH4 looking better than GTS. They even post images that shows clearly that FH4 looking better in almost every aspect. This game has no competition this gen, you guys need to deal with it. Anyway here are some more gameplay shots

Ma goodness Lord have Mercy...these shots are @#$% breathtaking..good job sir!

 

[LuvOfThaGame]

Slightly off topic but anyone else think 'TheLastWord' is just a joke account, kind of a living meme?. It would explain how he hasn't been banned yet for his constant fanboy trolling, he certainly wouldnt of lasted 2 hours under the old Neogaf lol.

He's gotten their attention. He's just now back after a week forced vacation. Knew this was going to be his first target. Lol.

Those Horizon pics with the purple and yellow fields are really amazing. Seems every aspect of the game has improved, which was beautiful to begin with in FH3.

 

[Inviusx]

FH4 looks great but not a realistic comparison against GTS due to the available 4k 30hz/1080p 60hz modes. If FH4 attempted 4k at 60hz the story would be different, same as if GTS allowed a 30hz mode.

The assets in FH4 are really good but you either need to take a 50% frame drop to get them at 4k or take a permanent locked 1080p to take it at 60. Personally I would have preferred they dedicated themselves to either 4k or 60hz as it's a tough choice to compromise going either way.