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Next-gen Racing Graphics Face-off | (Next-gen means current-gen)
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BusierDonkey
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This game is absolutely bonkers. The interior of the house is rendered as images on the walls, but convincingly so with bump maps and shading, the interior lights including lamps come on at night. The seasonal changes are extremely well executed, everything changes, branches have snow on them, things look frosted, it must have taken ages to implement at this level of detail. I live in the middle of Canada and see snow 6 months of the year and I've never seen winter done this well.
This shot looks good, but in motion it's another level entirely. Snow is falling in a fluttery way, it creates ripple in the puddle which is covering ice. Both surfaces are reflecting so I'm getting a stereo reflection, my headlights are casting shadows off everything in front of the car for about an 1/8th mile. It's all running at 60fps at 4K and my PC isn't running as hard as a night race in FM7.
Draw distances are insane. I pulled the drone back to see how long before my car ghosted out. If you look between the house and the small tree, you can see the General and the cabin from the previous shot. It still has lit tail lights, and the sun is still affecting the paint.
The headlights are impressive too, it's a step up from what FM7 did, and the scale is an order of magnitude above as well. Casting shadows and lighting stuff up for huge distances. Things like grass aren't affected, but everything else from rubble from broken fences to small bushes are. In motion smashing through things at night looks amazing.
This shot looks good, but in motion it's another level entirely. Snow is falling in a fluttery way, it creates ripple in the puddle which is covering ice. Both surfaces are reflecting so I'm getting a stereo reflection, my headlights are casting shadows off everything in front of the car for about an 1/8th mile. It's all running at 60fps at 4K and my PC isn't running as hard as a night race in FM7.
Draw distances are insane. I pulled the drone back to see how long before my car ghosted out. If you look between the house and the small tree, you can see the General and the cabin from the previous shot. It still has lit tail lights, and the sun is still affecting the paint.
The headlights are impressive too, it's a step up from what FM7 did, and the scale is an order of magnitude above as well. Casting shadows and lighting stuff up for huge distances. Things like grass aren't affected, but everything else from rubble from broken fences to small bushes are. In motion smashing through things at night looks amazing.
GTR R35_Supra RZ
Banned
Ohhhh....maaa....gawd...Winter
I have my ultimate staring at me and 22gb update, plus install from disc doesn't help either.
Servers getting hammered big time, at least for the update.
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BusierDonkey
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Winter
I love that you picked a car with built-in snow shovels for these shots
The snow is really well done in this game. The way it falls, the way it glitters, it's all done so well. It also reminds me that I'll be plugging my car in again soon...
VisualFidelity
Member
Geeeze these shots are INCREDIBLE!!!!
VisualFidelity
Member
Ive been following this thread, viewing pics mostly on my phone. Seeing gameplay shots of GT looks good and almost equal to the FM7 or FH shots. Now I just viewed on my PC on my 27" monitor and WOW what a difference, the crappy textures, aliasing, and 2d cut outs make it look like a ps3 game in gameplay shots. There really is no comparison. FH7 at 4k wipes the floor with it, let alone FH4 which even at 1080p looks miles better.
You really cant judge any of these pics by looking on your phone.
More FH4 shots please! Some gameplay ones too
You really cant judge any of these pics by looking on your phone.
More FH4 shots please! Some gameplay ones too
VisualFidelity
Member
According to digital foundry, FH4 on X1X runs at an equivelant of Ultra settings on PC on 4k mode, and mostly ultra and some high on 60fps mode. Interstingly, the trees were said to look better in the distant on X1X over PC! Really impressive stuff by the X
BusierDonkey
Member
So I was messing around with the drone in winter, and I ran across a string of discoveries.
Your drone leaves tracks in the snow, as do the sheep.
Then I discovered the sheep run away from the drone too, but are still afraid of the car. Using the drone and car you can confuse them causing them to freak out.
I then discovered that as my car was sitting the snow accumulated on it and turned into ice. I walk out to this crap every morning in the early part of winter. I hate it, but it's a great detail.
If you catch the sheep/deer/etc in your headlights, their eyes glow, but only the pupils and only from dead-on. I already knew the sheep had thicker wool in the winter, but the attention given to them is just silly.
I just spent two hours of this game without moving the car...
Your drone leaves tracks in the snow, as do the sheep.
Then I discovered the sheep run away from the drone too, but are still afraid of the car. Using the drone and car you can confuse them causing them to freak out.
I then discovered that as my car was sitting the snow accumulated on it and turned into ice. I walk out to this crap every morning in the early part of winter. I hate it, but it's a great detail.
If you catch the sheep/deer/etc in your headlights, their eyes glow, but only the pupils and only from dead-on. I already knew the sheep had thicker wool in the winter, but the attention given to them is just silly.
I just spent two hours of this game without moving the car...
BusierDonkey
Member
I'm using a PC, but the honest truth is most of what I'm posting will look the same on X1X. I'm only getting more MSAA samples, some draw distance improvements, and things like LOD changes happen further away. My biggest benefit is the frame-rate. With everything set to extreme (or as high as possible, some settings stop before then) I'm locked at 60 at 4K limited by my monitor.
thelastword
Banned
It looks like Horizon is using CA, it's what I'm seeing from the left side mirror here, this is definitely not MB, though some side detail looks a bit blurred too, like reduced detail at times in the environment.... through mirrors et al.....Detail in the rear view mirror looks much sharper, that's for sure...
Nice comparison, GT looks leagues ahead. Cars, lighting foliage, asphalt detail are just in another league. Your last two shots speaks to the particles/dust/gravel effects I always speak of that's so good in GT. Yet that lightning...….Look at the pic showing the red car in GT and two cars ahead, look at how the sun hits the right side of that second car (the blue one) and then a bit more subtly the car ahead, which seems to be a bit more occluded from the sun by the trees. This is just lighting perfection....same TOD
monza
gameplay models
So forget about all the shading details GT does better, better PBR and general ATD, the lighting is just on another level and it's the reason why GT is the only game that fools people into believing it's a live race or real at times, it's that good. I shudder to think of what PD will do with Navi hardware and a good CPU at 4K....These guys easily outshine others who work on superior hardware....
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TheAdmiester
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I’m still trying to find the “catch” with FH4. Usually with open world games there’s a sizeable graphical compromise somewhere, but I’m just not finding it. It’s unbelievable how it manages to look so good so consistently.
Louis Cyphre
Banned
It's also sitting currently at a 92 on OpenCritic so it's not just about it's incredible performance and visuals.
BusierDonkey
Member
I went mountain climbing in my Hilux. Todd Howard pointed to a mountain and told me I could go there. All gameplay from the bumper cam.
LostDonkey
Member
Stunning shots.
Inviusx
Member
I went mountain climbing in my Hilux. Todd Howard pointed to a mountain and told me I could go there. All gameplay from the bumper cam.
Wallpaper simulator
LuvOfThaGame
Banned
Ooohhhhh...So that's where those damn backgrounds on win10 login comes from. Lol
LostDonkey
Member
And Horizon DOES use CA. Though its not as if you've found some secret. The option is there in the settings to toggle it on/off. But if you had the game youd know that
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AngularSaxophone
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LostDonkey
Member
I swear PC2 looks better than GTS. Would like to see a proper deep comparison but it always seems to have been avoided.
Wonder why...
Wonder why...
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Inviusx
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I would be happy to post some in depth GTS pics if someone wants to start by posting some PC2 pics.
Can't do it with the ones above as GTS doesn't have a snow track.
Pcars 2 implements a seasonal change to the weather change and it is wonderfulMan.... those winter Horizon shots look pretty unbelievable.
Speaking about winter - some pC2 on ps4
Self_Destructive
Member
FH4 on PC
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BusierDonkey
Member
It could be what you're seeing with the HDR active differs from what a regular TV would shot. Can you deactivate HDR and try taking another shot to see how it comes out.
PC Photo Mode
I thought they were real pictures first. Wow
DynamiteCop!
Banned
Infinity844
Neo Member
Here are some of mine Project Cars 2 screenshots on PC:
LostDonkey
Member
Wow. Project Cars 2 if definitely a contender.
Great shots. Car detail, lighting, buildings, environment all top tier.
Great shots. Car detail, lighting, buildings, environment all top tier.
Infinity844
Neo Member
Some more Project Cars 2 on PC:
yeah.very nice.Here are some of mine Project Cars 2 screenshots on PC:
Infinity844
Neo Member
Forza Horizon 4 screenshots on PC:
thelastword
Banned
Best looking driving games this gen.....
GTS
DC
Best sense of speed in a racer period....
GTS
DC
Best sense of speed in a racer period....
Son_of_Zardoz
Banned
Well since you are GAF's definitive source for unbiased facts/judgements, I think it is safe to say that this thread can be shut down. You have obviously shown us the way and we shall be forever grateful.
phil_t98
#SonyToo
phil_t98
#SonyToo
FH4 on PC
And this screen shot alone shows why it is currantly best looking racer this gen................so far
LuvOfThaGame
Banned
...of racers that are only on Playstation otherwise it's Forza Horizon 4.
You forgot this last sentence. You're welcome.
LostDonkey
Member
thelastword
Banned
Gameplay Shots DC vs Horizon Foliage Comparison....."Cars in shot in both games btw"
Horizon
DC
Horizon
DC
More DC Foliage Shots....JPG's btw, I think that was before PNG's, so it looks even better.....In essence, the foliage in DC is way superior in terms of detail and authenticity, that's on top of the lighting and how it bounces off and through it, with properly casted shadows et al.
Of course we all know DC crushes in motion......but below are some vids of GTS in gameplay and replay. "In motion" the way we play.....plus the best replays in the business...
Horizon
DC
Horizon
DC
More DC Foliage Shots....JPG's btw, I think that was before PNG's, so it looks even better.....In essence, the foliage in DC is way superior in terms of detail and authenticity, that's on top of the lighting and how it bounces off and through it, with properly casted shadows et al.
Of course we all know DC crushes in motion......but below are some vids of GTS in gameplay and replay. "In motion" the way we play.....plus the best replays in the business...
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Self_Destructive
Member
Yea, GTS would require a scape screenshot to get the same effect lol
GTR R35_Supra RZ
Banned
Fellas, is it possible post captured pics from our forzamotorsports acc on here with the
thingie ? I got lots hot salty pics for thelastdelusion, thx.
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LostDonkey
Member
DC
Check out the levitating trees on the left. Unmatched attention to detail!
The whole shot is horrendous. The textures are horrible the AF goes about a metre from the car before everything becomes one solid colour. The lighting is really bad, trees look ok but nowhere near Horizon levels. I mean if this is a shot youre using to compare to Horizon youre done lol
GTR R35_Supra RZ
Banned
The whole shot is horrendous. The textures are horrible the AF goes about a metre from the car before everything becomes one solid colour. The lighting is really bad, trees look ok but nowhere near Horizon levels. I mean if this is a shot youre using to compare to Horizon youre done lol
Do you have any idea how much sweat , blood and tears he had to pour in to find the best pic.
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