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Next-gen Racing Graphics Face-off | (Next-gen means current-gen)
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holy fuckin shit
Pretty sure Driveclub doesn't reflect mountains outside the tunnel on the road inside the tunnel.
Unless I misinterpreted your post with the double negative, saying that Driveclub is something?
I think that would be a bad idea. As it stands because all races are set to a certain time of day there is no advantage for other people on the leaderboards due to visibility.
I hope that makes sense because I know my lap times are faster during bright day light.
You can't change the settings in the career mode, obviously
eso76
Member
Also because the road inside the tunnel shouldn't be wet. Or not THAT wet anyway.
And YT makes it hard to judge, but trackside detail has nothing on Driveclub to be honest..
lol, have to agree. Not to say it always looks that bad, as in motion the game looks nice most of the time. However, shots like that aren't helping Driveclub's case for "best graphics by far!!!"
(not my shots) from the project cars community:
travisbickle
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But the weather's dynamic? So it can rain at any time affecting some players and not others.
Miles Quaritch
Member
Fuck.
FUCK.
The visuals, the car sound, the music, the rain.
It's on these occasions I wish I was a sim fan, because holy shit.
I think p3tran's complaint is that he has visibility problems so he blames the lighting and says it's unrealistic.
But about the game's dynamic cloud cover, I agree, it'd be nice if Evo gave us an optional setting somewhere in the general menu to replicate the exact same conditions during every race restart. I was sort of expecting it for the restarts anyway, considering it's a restart. :\
1.21Gigawatts
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No it doesn't because rain isn't even implemented yet
I think the rain footage we've seen of DC look better than the PCars rain footage.
travisbickle
Member
I think p3tran's complaint is that he has visibility problems so he blames the lighting and says it's unrealistic.
But about the game's dynamic cloud cover, I agree, it'd be nice if Evo gave us an optional setting somewhere in the general menu to replicate the exact same conditions during every race restart. I was sort of expecting it for the restarts anyway, considering it's a restart. :\
I don't know if Evo can do that from the way they have designed the cloud system, and I'm also going to assume it will be the same for rain/snow because you set a precipitation percentage which I guess is for the likelihood of rain rather than exactly when the rain will fall and for how long.
Auto-Reply
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..... .... ... oh my
Miles Quaritch
Member
No it doesn't because rain isn't even implemented yet
I think the rain footage we've seen of DC look better than the PCars rain footage.
Looks damn impressive in PCars, but DC is the only racer we've seen so far this gen where rain beads up the hood/wind-shield.
It's a small touch, but it makes all the difference.
Sure, not compared to a game running on PC at Ultra spec....
JackAubrey
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I think p3tran's complaint is that he has visibility problems so he blames the lighting and says it's unrealistic.
But about the game's dynamic cloud cover, I agree, it'd be nice if Evo gave us an optional setting somewhere in the general menu to replicate the exact same conditions during every race restart. I was sort of expecting it for the restarts anyway, considering it's a restart. :\
My problem with it is that it's very dark when it wouldn't be in real life. And my complaint isn't "this arcade game isn't realistic enough boo hoo", but that I find it hard to see when I really shouldn't.
The game's lighting is very impressive. And Evo has done whatever it takes to show off how dynamic it is. But our eyes deal with dynamic lighting by trying to keep things bright enough for us to see - so when we go into the shadow of a hill our eyes adjust and things seem as bright.
In Driveclub I find the darkness of the image changing depending which way I am pointing. So the car may be in the shadow of a hill and enter the corner and things are bright enough, but the car turns around the corner and suddenly the bottom half of the screen is very dark.
It's like we get twighlight driving conditions even in the middle of the day depending on sky condition/direction of view. This is definitely a marmite thing - it seems to only bother a few of us. But it bothers me not from an artistic, technical or realism standpoint at all - but from a complete playability one. For whatever reason I just find it impossible to play because of this issue, and despite the games myriad other flaws, I'd play it a heck of a lot more if I could see.
1.21Gigawatts
Banned
For me its more about the lighting and environment.
The weather effects shown for Driveclub are definitely better than those in Project Cars, much like the lighting system also is. However actually playing Driveclub on my screen, the game never, ever looks better than PCars to me (not even close) as it's let down in pretty much every other area of IQ (aliasing, texturing, LOD pop-in, framerate etc). I'm not expecting the weather effects to have the same impact when I'm playing, compared to the gifs we've seen, as nothing else in the game has so far compared to all the gifs that have been floating about.
The framerate thing is really weird as well. According to DF it's locked perfectly at 30fps like Horizon 2 is, but when I go from playing one to playing the other, the difference in motion is huge. Is it simply because of differences in motion blur? Because Driveclub's locked 30fps doesn't feel very smooth at all.
The framerate thing is really weird as well. According to DF it's locked perfectly at 30fps like Horizon 2 is, but when I go from playing one to playing the other, the difference in motion is huge. Is it simply because of differences in motion blur? Because Driveclub's locked 30fps doesn't feel very smooth at all.
JackAubrey
Member
I agree, Horizon 2 definitely feels smoother.
Pjsprojects
Member
Wonder when the weather will get patched in on Driveclub?
See all the adverts showing rain but none in the game, want to see it side by side with Forza rain.
See all the adverts showing rain but none in the game, want to see it side by side with Forza rain.
DemonCleaner
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that actually a very good comparison on how the environments react to lighting in both games.
60fps gameplay video showing off the different cameras, to some relaxing Glassworks - Philip Glass
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZFpCfw0d-E&index=1&list=UUQSieyMPe1RhnehIj7l3WKg
Use Chrome/html5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZFpCfw0d-E&index=1&list=UUQSieyMPe1RhnehIj7l3WKg
See You Next Wednesday
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I noticed that there is no motion blur in the Project Cars videos.
Is it disabled or will it not be in the game?
Is it disabled or will it not be in the game?
Its bugged at the moment and not working but if you look at older videos it's there.. Should be fixed soon.
Maastricht
Member
Haha, at least one person agrees with me
I have a video that shows it a bit: http://www.gamersyde.com/hqstream_driveclub_cloudcover_insanity-33212_en.html
Such a wonderful thing to finally have clouds
. All the game needs though is to be able to manually switch on your headlights for when it gets *really* dark, just like in real life. Also, this video would have been prettier if motion steering was used, the analog to digital to analog conversion ruins the immersion. 
drugstore_cowboy
Member
Forza looks a bit shit there, even more so when directly compared to DC.
Don't know if it's the chase cam or what but it's so bare. I stick to cockpit and not used to seeing the game from that angle.
Fixing the contrast would probably help too.
Don't know if it's the chase cam or what but it's so bare. I stick to cockpit and not used to seeing the game from that angle.
Fixing the contrast would probably help too.
DC is also compressed as hell and IQ is equal.
Caayn
Member
So you're deliberately using a compressed as hell gif to compare?
Miles Quaritch
Member
That's a bad comparison gif and Conduit should feel bad for posting it.
Does neither games visuals justice.
Does neither games visuals justice.
This comparison is the only i found for now. Same thing it will be if IQ in that gif is great.
Why should i felt bad?
PCars with dynamic weather looks amazing, can't wait until it's done, still some weird bits here and there.
Sorry for the length of this one, but if you skip through there are some amazing shots when the sun starts going down.
http://youtu.be/lKW0Kb953HE
Sorry for the length of this one, but if you skip through there are some amazing shots when the sun starts going down.
http://youtu.be/lKW0Kb953HE
Was majorly disappointed after watching that.
I'm big on PC. I'm big on racing games. But Drive Club's weather effects demolish everything I've seen including that video...am I missing something?
Also something on this page is wrecking my pc. -damnit chrome, firefox handles it fine.
--just realised it's quite an old quote and the weather patch was more recent.
IAmRandom31
Banned
If only Sony was able to release an $800 system. Evolution could show the world how its done! lol
Caayn
Member
Feels like somebody just put a giant speed bump in the middle of the roadI think that huge gif from Conduit is slowing down this page, lol.
The source if anyone's interested: http://youtu.be/G9hUgxN--Tk
Is that like, from the latest build?PCars with dynamic weather looks amazing, can't wait until it's done, still some weird bits here and there.
Sorry for the length of this one, but if you skip through there are some amazing shots when the sun starts going down.
http://youtu.be/lKW0Kb953HE
I remember being impressed by how the rain looked in PC, but having played DC I must say that looks not-so-hot in comparison. (To my eyes, don't kill me bruhs)
Is that the latest build?
No wonder it's been delayed, it's full of glitches.
And not that hot, I'm afraid to tell you.
I can't see the generational gap I would have expected from what GT6 achieves today.
And hell, I know it's 30 fps, but DC shits all over Project Cars in the lighting and weather effects departments.
jellies_two
Member
After DC, I am not impressed. At all.
Many textures look flat (not done with material shaders).
The raindrops are fixed little images.
There is no motion blur, and there is frequent track-side pop-in
When raining the wipers just remove the fixed droplets which also fade out magically
There is no difference on the windscreen between driving fast and stopped.
The light seems simplistic: headlights or sun, with no refraction or bounce.
Honestly the graphics vs driveclub look like they are a generation behind. Seriously.
Yes you get 60fps and other advantages of being on a PC that can be built to be as fast as you like -- but that just accelerates the crap image to whatever frame-rate or whatever resolution, rather than increasing realism.
Feels like somebody just put a giant speed bump in the middle of the road
Lol, yeah. I think I'll save my gifs for the next page.
I need to find more pcars ones anyway.I think that huge gif from Conduit is slowing down this page, lol.
lol for such a low quality gif
It is, it looks very cool, but I think some cars/tracks may be better. The rain on the window needs work but I love the water on the track and all the reflections.
I imagine it's only going to get better, there is still a lot time left (the rain drops on the window did change a while back).
As said above, I think some tracks are better than others, I'll do another with a track that had more progress (I mainly race Laguna and Bathurst).
Couple of things to note, I have motion blur turned down because I hate it, the rain drops are being moved by the wipers but the wipers don't move in all views, still being worked on. When you pick up speed the rain streaks on the window, again, only in some views, I need to do another I think.
The big thing for this game are the physics, it feels amazing to drive, so I guess to me (and the devs) getting the driving right is first of foremost, graphic fidelity after.
Drive Clubs rain driving is amazing, they did a very good job on that.
Conduit bro, you need to resize your gifs man.
It'll also help hide the blurry quality of the video footage you got it from.Similar threads
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