Next Generation Xbox early details have leaked - Release planned for 2028, Cloud-Hybrid games, Looking into the possibility of switching to ARM

If MS stick with this, putting out a revised system with the same performance at $499 and digital-only w/ no disc drive; while Sony put out a Pro at roughly the same price, a "Slim" a good bit cheaper & maintain the option of discs (perhaps in the form of a universal, slot-in add-on drive for both new systems). Then Sony will garner considerable good will from the gaming community.
 
Bo_Hazem said:
I'm 50/50 when it comes to online only. Enjoyed both The Crew and The Division. You get some shit maintenance here and there but overall it's good. It all depends on the game.
Click to expand...
I dont mind it for a few games. But overall would prefer an offline mode. A whole console/platform where everything would have to be always online would suck
 
I hate to see it, but the future is digital and always online. Gamers in shitty area's with shitty internet are just fucked at this point.
 
lmao remember when the xBone was centered around cable television everyone hated, came bundled with an always-on camera nobody wanted, and tried to limit physical game sharing? I'm getting those vibes again
 
This stuff is interesting, but a lot of it is pretty old documents, considering that "game release" doc is from FY2020.

So I wouldn't count on all of this stuff coming true.

Sony is so solid at just producing awesome hardware that I find it more interesting that MS is trying something new.

But in the end the cloud/hybrid shit will probably not work well, so they better put a powerful ARM processor in that next machine if that's the direction they are going.
 
Last edited:
twilo99 said:
No matter how good it is, there is always going to be a performance loss, and that's bad for gaming especially when you consider that the hardware is already relatively weak.

Their ARM efforts are very poor so far, especially compared to Apple… now, if Apple said this I'd be more excited, but hopefully they stick to AMD.
Click to expand...
A performance costs vs native hardware compatibility, but that doesn't matter if it still can be played at the games targeted framerate.
 
twilo99 said:
No matter how good it is, there is always going to be a performance loss, and that's bad for gaming especially when you consider that the hardware is already relatively weak.

Their ARM efforts are very poor so far, especially compared to Apple… now, if Apple said this I'd be more excited, but hopefully they stick to AMD.
Click to expand...
It's only a perf lost relative to a native ARM version running on the same hardware.

You can increase perf compared to Xbox Series X w/ emulation on a competent ARM CPU. Keep in mind much of the work is done by the GPU anyways, not like they have to do full DirectX emulation like they have to on Apple hardware.

The real question is whether they can get away with nearly "Full BC" w/ a setup like that, or if it will have to be selective w/ games like the Xbox 360 emu on the Xbox One.
 
Last edited:
Keep in mind there's a leak stating MS had basically zero investment in xCloud in 2022, stating poor uptake (even after Fortnite.)

We'll see if that means MS might change a plan like a "hybrid console", it might.
 
TheThreadsThatBindUs said:
Fake.

There is virtually no reason to go with a balance of big.little cores for a CPU of a non-mobile platform that doesn't have to run off battery power.
Click to expand...
Tell Microsoft their slides are fake then, lol. Also tell intel their pc architecture is wrong I guess.
 
Last edited:
Insane Metal said:
No? Oh. I thought they were trying to implement something like that. I know DLSS itself is not an online/cloud based thing. So... better keep our consoles... home consoles. :p
Click to expand...
Massive server farms are used to develop the "data models" that help DLSS run, and those servers are maybe in the cloud... But those data models are downloaded to your machine locally, so that would have nothing to do with a "hybrid console" design.
 
IntentionalPun said:
Massive server farms are used to develop the "data models" that help DLSS run, and those servers are maybe in the cloud... But those data models are downloaded to your machine locally, so that would have nothing to do with a "hybrid console" design.
Click to expand...
Yeah I know, so in this case they're basically coming back with the 'games running on the cloud with better framerates, better physics and so on' stuff?
 
Bry0 said:
Tell Microsoft their slides are fake then, lol. Also tell intel their pc architecture is wrong I guess.
Click to expand...

These slides are alleged to be from a leak. They could be a plant.

Also, Intel doesn't supply CPUs to any console. Big.little cores on a discrete CPU sold into markets where power consumption matters (e.g. data centres) makes sense. For a console, it doesn't.
 
Mr Reasonable said:
It different kind of brain or think space for computer box. Apple computer box recently now Arm brain, no more intel. It very successful.

Computer box need stories to be written in different words for Arm brain to understand quickly but it still understand stories written for other brains with help but it take longer which mean slower flashing on light box.
Click to expand...

😂😂😂
 
TheThreadsThatBindUs said:
These slides are alleged to be from a leak. They could be a plant.

Also, Intel doesn't supply CPUs to any console. Big.little cores on a discrete CPU sold into markets where power consumption matters (e.g. data centres) makes sense. For a console, it doesn't.
Click to expand...
Power consumption matters for home consoles as well though. They are all targeting lower power consumption if possible. Less heat, greater reliability, more compact designs...

MS uploaded these documents as part of a legal process BTW, this isn't some typical "leak."
 
Loxus said:
I don't know how much he knows but he's credible. Maybe his info is outdated.


Click to expand...

A lot of the media leaked was from a few years ago. I could totally see a situation where Microsoft sees the ps5 pro rumors and decides maybe to move their 10th gen system up as a response. The Bethesda release schedule for example was almost entirely outdated.
 
If next gen xbox launches holiday 2028 and ps5pr0 launches in a year that means sony machine will have clear power advantage for 2nd half of the gen- 4 long years, its gonna be a bloodbath for MS :P
 
Apple will come with, what ? M5 or 6... I just can't wait to see MS crush by Apple's ARM tech! It's gonna be good, especially watching Digital Foundry crying!

And no, ARM Is not the furtur, it is very real right now... on Apple side at least!
 
HeisenbergFX4 said:
I hate to do this to you I honestly do but the because answer I can give you is almost like a trust me bro for reasons

Plus for whatever its worth RGT is hearing the same

Click to expand...


Red "I hear conflicting things, and there's multiple designs. and the project may or may not have been binned so take this with a truckload of salt" GamingTech.
 
Thick Thighs Save Lives said:
image.png
Click to expand...

Safety & Toxicity

MEGATON

RIP PS6 & Switch 2, MS wins next gen
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

Leaked Details Indicate Next-Generation Xbox Controller May Feature Capabilities Similar to DualSense. Will be Compatible With Next Xbox Console
News Rumor Hardware  2 3 4 5 6
252
19K
Bungie replied
AMD confirms they will be developing next generation "consoles, PCs, and handheld" devices for Xbox
2 3
140
1K
hussar16 replied
Xbox has announced a multi-year agreement with AMD to co-engineer new silicon chips for the next-generation of Xbox consoles
19 20 21 22 23
1K
5K
Crayon replied
Dusk Golem: "The next remakes are Resident Evil: Code Veronica & Resident Evil Zero. They should be releasing in 2027/2028"
Opinion Rumor  2
77
710
IbizaPocholo replied
Xbox Cloud Gaming (Beta) Coming to Select Vehicles in Partnership with LG
14
84
Det replied
Top Bottom