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[nintendoman58]

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I'm very interested to see where this goes now.

I mean, I love Code Geass. But considering Sunrise's recent track record with Valvrave and Cross Ange and how those things went, I'm going to keep my hype level at "cautiously optimistic."

 

[Dead]

Taniguchi is a has been talent wise

Hiroyuki Yoshino is a never was

Shame. Sunrise in general is a wasteland of good talent In general though.

 

[Voror]

hehehehe



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I'm laughing my ass off at the thought of this.

I honestly do love Code Geass even with as much as I hate R2 and consider it a huge disappointment. I'm just wondering what a Gundam show by him would even be like. More iffy on having Yoshino.

I feel like the best series Taniguchi ever did was Planetes.

 

[JCG]

Twitter rumors have it that the new Gundam will be directed by Goro Taniguchi (Code Geass) and written by Hiroyuki Yoshino (Code Geass, Guilty Crown). Could be... interesting?

Aside from the fact rumors are worth absolutely nothing without any evidence...the idea sounds interesting, if only because I've enjoyed every single show Goro Taniguchi has directed.

(And yes, that includes Maria the Virgin Witch. Limited by the original manga's concept, but better than it had any right to be)

He has range and doesn't repeat himself once a project is done, so anyone assuming the guy would want to make a copy of Code Geass is being quite...ignorant, to say the least. Some of his co-workers have been less imaginative, but I think the man has proven he isn't going to just blindly parrot the same number. It's too bad this is probably nothing more than a rumor though.

Hiroyuki Yoshino would be more worrying, but not exactly for the reasons implied. He did almost no work on Code Geass (like three episodes) yet wrote over half of of Guilty Crown, which was pure crap. Plus a lot of throwaway harem shows or series with creepy fanservice. At the same time, Yoshino also worked on Macross Frontier (both the TV series and the movies) as well as Sora no Woto, so the guy can occasionally not suck.

 

[duckroll]

Twitter rumors have it that the new Gundam will be directed by Goro Taniguchi (Code Geass)

Oh cool, so the G stands for Geass?

and written by Hiroyuki Yoshino (Code Geass, Guilty Crown). Could be... interesting?

Nope, the G just stands for Garbage I guess.

 

[Averon]

So this could be Code Geass' creatives take on Gundam?

Don't know how feel about that. Can't be any worse than the the last couple of Gundam AU series, right?

 

[TheGreatDirector]

So this could be Code Geass' creatives take on Gundam?

Don't know how feel about that. Can't be any worse than the the last couple of Gundam AU series, right?

Have you seen Guilty Crown?

 

[JCG]

Here's my random prediction, regardless of the actual staff involved:

If the style of the series leans more Super than Real, it'll be cool even if the writing's not great.

If the style of the series leans more Real than Super, then the writing will be more of a handicap.

Admitting, of course, that Gundam as a property has rarely been the best place to go looking for writing quality either way (except for 0080).

So this could be Code Geass' creatives take on Gundam?

No, you'd also need Okouchi for that. Who is ostensibly better than Yoshino but not by much.

Have you seen Guilty Crown?

That one had no Taniguchi at all. Tetsuro Araki directed and tried too hard to make a bizarre "Evangelion meets Ghost in the Shell" hybrid.

 

[duckroll]

No, you'd also need Okouchi for that. Who is ostensibly better than Yoshino but not by much.

Oh come on. Okouchi is a really competent writer when he actually cares about the material and tries. His original work might be 50:50 in terms of being entertaining as hell and just too stupid for the brain, but his adaptation work can be extremely on point. Yoshino on the other hand, cannot lead any series without being a complete and utter shit show even when adapting simple but strong material for mainstream audiences.

 

[JCG]

Oh come on. Okouchi is a really competent writer when he actually cares about the material and tries. His original work might be 50:50 in terms of being entertaining as hell and just too stupid for the brain, but his adaptation work can be extremely on point. Yoshino on the other hand, cannot lead any series without being a complete and utter shit show even when adapting simple but strong material for mainstream audiences.

Perhaps I was being too harsh on Okouchi, but they do share some of their quirks.

Even so, I'd still be willing to give the new Gundam series a chance if the director/concept interests me. By the way...I've heard there were issues with Magi, if that's on your mind, but I've never seen it. Didn't Yoshino also adapt Black Butler: Book of Circus last year though? I didn't hear any complaints about that one. I do know he does tend to do a lot of unappealing light novel adaptations, mind you.

 

[yami4ct]

Silhouette sans shadows has me super pumped. Look at that massive V-Fin! It's basically guaranteed to be a super robot show with that design.

Involvement by the Geass guy, though, has me worried. Geass is absolute crap and none of his other works brings me solace. Oh well, even if the story is Valvrave levels of terrible, at least we might get some amazing Super Robot Gundam action.

 

[Enron]

Oh cool, so the G stands for Geass?



Nope, the G just stands for Garbage I guess.

Code Geass/Guilty Crown Gundam? That's about the ONLY way this could be worse than Tomino, and Sunrise gone and done it. Yikes.

 

[JCG]

Silhouette sans shadows has me super pumped. Look at that massive V-Fin! It's basically guaranteed to be a super robot show with that design.

Involvement by the Geass guy, though, has me worried. Geass is absolute crap and none of his other works brings me solace. Oh well, even if the story is Valvrave levels of terrible, at least we might get some amazing Super Robot Gundam action.

Did you ever try watching Gun X Sword? Or at least three episodes of it?

Here's a sample:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmxrVuheIVw

People already know whether they like Code Geass or not, whatever, but the man has made a lot of different stuff and a perfectly entertaining Super Robot show to boot. To say nothing of the fact he did in fact work on a bunch of older series from that same genre earlier in his career. If that's what this ends up being, all this prejudice will prove to be empty. Which doesn't mean the show will be perfect.

Code Geass/Guilty Crown Gundam? That's about the ONLY way this could be worse than Tomino, and Sunrise gone and done it. Yikes.

It's almost like you already know what the series is going to be like without a single objective indication.

 

[Enron]

Good to know you're being so open-minded about it.

Son, i've been gundamning for a long time, and I ain't got no time for some bullshit Gundam helmed by trainwreck hacks! Ya'll can have this one.

It's almost like you already know what the series is going to be like without a single objective indication.

dat edit! But yeah, "Code Geass", "Guilty Crown" are pretty good indicators, I think.

 

[Tecl0n]

How dare you. Spiegel was never the protagonist but he's still the best thing in G Gundam. He was in part a mentor to Domon just like Asia.

exactly my point. the suit was used as a jobber twice in GBF Try. It is unacceptable.

 

[yami4ct]

Did you ever try watching Gun X Sword? Or at least three episodes of it?

Here's a sample:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmxrVuheIVw

People already know whether they like Code Geass or not, whatever, but the man has made a lot of different stuff and a perfectly entertaining Super Robot show to boot. To say nothing of the fact he did in fact work on a bunch of older series from that same genre earlier in his career. If that's what this ends up being, all this prejudice will prove to be empty. Which doesn't mean the show will be perfect.

Even though I dislike Geass with the power of a thousand suns, I will admit that the direction in the action wasn't a major part. In fact, the action was good most the time. A lot of the quality of this show won't even be up to him. Is the writing good and the tone hit right? It could end up being an amazingly fun Super Robot Gundam. If the writing is Geass/Valvrave level train wreck, the show could still be decent if the action is well done. I have some faith that we'll get a good look Super Robot show, assuming that's what they're going for.

If they're going for 0079 Real Robot seriousness, though, than god help us. We could have a Wing level tragedy on our hands.

 

[The Sum of Zero]

It's almost like you already know what the series is going to be like without a single objective indication.

People will always be that way. It doesn't matter if you're here, on /m/, or on reddit.

 

[JCG]

Son, i've been gundamning for a long time, and I ain't got no time for some bullshit Gundam helmed by trainwreck hacks! Ya'll can have this one.

dat edit! But yeah, "Code Geass", "Guilty Crown" are pretty good indicators, I think.

That's only about as "objective" as assuming all Tomino has ever made must be either a variation of Gundam F91 or Garzey's Wing.

Coming up with "good indicators" would require a comprehensive view of any creator's record, with both "best" and "worse" case scenarios.

Taking a cynical/pessimistic view, the new Gundam could suck for entirely different reasons than those you've considered. Or just be mediocre as hell. We don't know.

Even though I dislike Geass with the power of a thousand suns, I will admit that the direction in the action wasn't a major part. In fact, the action was good most the time. A lot of the quality of this show won't even be up to him. Is the writing good and the tone hit right? It could end up being an amazingly fun Super Robot Gundam. If the writing is Geass/Valvrave level train wreck, the show could still be decent if the action is well done. I have some faith that we'll get a good look Super Robot show, assuming that's what they're going for.

If they're going for 0079 Real Robot seriousness, though, than god help us. We could have a Wing level tragedy on our hands.

Well, at least we do agree that Super would be better than Real!

There's no point in debating the rest without any confirmed information.

 

[duckroll]

The sad thing is, no matter what this ends up being, I can't help but feel that even if we end up really enjoying the first season or first half of the series, if it actually gets popular Sunrise will find some way to mess shit up. :/

 

[yami4ct]

That's only about as "objective" as assuming all Tomino has ever made must be either a variation of Gundam F91 or Garzey's Wing.

Coming up with "good indicators" would require a comprehensive view of any creator's record, with both "best" and "worse" case scenarios.

Taking a cynical/pessimistic view, the new Gundam could suck for entirely different reasons than those you've considered. Or just be mediocre as hell. I don't know.

To be fair, if we take the recent history of Gundam TV shows into account, the odds of it being good are quite low. We have Seed Destiny, 00, AGE and G-Reco. I sort of like Reco, but even I have to admit it's 1/2 good at best.

The sad thing is, no matter what this ends up being, I can't help but feel that even if we end up really enjoying the first season or first half of the series, if it actually gets popular Sunrise will find some way to mess shit up. :/

I think the best hope is that if it's bad, it goes full Valvrave. That thing was a beautiful mess.

 

[Enron]

The sad thing is, no matter what this ends up being, I can't help but feel that even if we end up really enjoying the first season or first half of the series, if it actually gets popular Sunrise will find some way to mess shit up. :/

Selling Gundam to Bones is the only way to save it

 

[duckroll]

Selling Gundam to Bones is the only way to save it

First thing you've said in years which makes any sense!

 

[yami4ct]

Selling Gundam to Bones is the only way to save it

Bones made Captain Earth and Eureka Seven AO (which, to be fair, doesn't canonically exist). BONES might not be your best bet. Maybe MAPPA?

 

[JCG]

The sad thing is, no matter what this ends up being, I can't help but feel that even if we end up really enjoying the first season or first half of the series, if it actually gets popular Sunrise will find some way to mess shit up. :/

It's a curse! But I'm of the opinion that a solid foundation can still make such a thing tolerable enough.

Like a good protagonist that's not, say, another Kio or Kira.

 

[Aizo]

If it's G Gundam 2, I'll be facing mecha to pray everyday

I have a photo of me praying towards the Mecha of Tokyo. Great minds.

 

[RangerBAD]

Bones made Captain Earth and Eureka Seven AO (which, to be fair, doesn't canonically exist). BONES might not be your best bet. Maybe MAPPA?

MAPPA needs to make a mecha anime before I can decide.

 

[Enron]

First thing you've said in years which makes any sense!

wow rude

 

[Luigi87]

Selling Gundam to Bones is the only way to save it

This would be like my favourite thing ever.

 

[SilentSoldier]

G-Gundam was one of my least favorite in the series, so I hope its nothing like that one.

 

[Windam]

I've only ever seen Gundam 79, but i liked it enough to want to watch Zeta. I'll get through them all eventually .

Watch Zeta now

 

[MMarston]

Watch Zeta now

And play a drinking game of slapping while you're at it too.

 

[RangerBAD]

G-Gundam was one of my least favorite in the series, so I hope its nothing like that one.

What did you say?

 

[Wubby]

I've never seen Code Geass... should I be worried? Should I give it a watch? I really don't watch too much anime. I wasn't a huge fan of Reco, even more so now that the season has finished. I'd rather give GBF Try a second watch.

Hope it turns out good. I'm mainly in it for the mech designs and model kits. As long as they have whoever did the antagonist suit designs for AGE far away from this series I'll probably be happy.

 

[MaxDOL]

I have not watch it but is G-Reco is really bad?

If my favorite TV Series are Turn-A,Seed(the first one) and 00(first half).
Do you think I will enjoy G-Reco or not?

Hate G Gundam the most because it remind me of fighting game which I suck at it.

 

[Moaradin]

G-Reco is completely incomprehensible. It's an entertaining mess though.

 

[JCG]

I've never seen Code Geass... should I be worried? Should I give it a watch? I really don't watch too much anime. I wasn't a huge fan of Reco, even more so now that the season has finished. I'd rather give GBF Try a second watch.

Nothing is confirmed yet. The more I look into that rumor, the more it seems flimsy (people conclude that Yoshino is the writer because he supposedly liked a post on Facebook?).

Only those who a) happen to specifically hate that other show *and* b) imagine that this will necessarily be similar are going to tell you to worry.

The show itself tends to polarize viewers and it's popular, so there's not much of a point in trying to desperately sell or scare you about it without knowing your interests. For instance: yami4ct below tells you the whole cast is unlikable. Some people would agree with him. Yet many others will tell you they liked the protagonist all the way through and even thought he was one of the best in anime. He tells you the second half goes totally off the rails, whereas I'd tell you the Code Geass rollercoaster jumps back on them in the end. You get the idea? It's entirely possible to go back and forth about that stuff all night long.

Even if the rumor is true, this new Gundam series could easily be better, worse or just different enough to make that preemptive comparison irrelevant as hell.

 

[yami4ct]

I've never seen Code Geass... should I be worried? Should I give it a watch? I really don't watch too much anime. I wasn't a huge fan of Reco, even more so now that the season has finished. I'd rather give GBF Try a second watch.

Hope it turns out good. I'm mainly in it for the mech designs and model kits. As long as they have whoever did the antagonist suit designs for AGE far away from this series I'll probably be happy.

Code Geass is a show with great mech designs and a cool world that gets lost in an awful, convoluted plot involving some of the most unlikable and dumb characters I've seen in an anime. The first half is sort of coherent but the second runs completely off the rails. It's a love it or hate it show. If it's anything like Geass, the action might be good but if the plot takes it self too seriously, the writing will be horrendously awful.

I have not watch it but is G-Reco is really bad?

If my favorite TV Series are Turn-A,Seed(the first one) and 00(first half).
Do you think I will enjoy G-Reco or not?

Hate G Gundam the most because it remind me of fighting game which I suck at it.

It's fine. It's a really strangely jam packed and convoluted show that's not helped by the fact the current translation feels like it could use another editing pass. It also has a really weird tonal mismatch of a very happy and carefree cast and serious plot. The action is good and the mech designs are amazing. Worth watching just for those.

 

[Dresden]

I have not watch it but is G-Reco is really bad?

It's hilarious.

 

[X05]

Code G.

Oh great.

Fucking Spinzaku.

The sad thing is, no matter what this ends up being, I can't help but feel that even if we end up really enjoying the first season or first half of the series, if it actually gets popular Sunrise will find some way to mess shit up. :/

That's tradition at this point!

Spoiler

Haven't seen Try yet, please please tell me it's exempt from that D:

To be fair, if we take the recent history of Gundam TV shows into account, the odds of it being good are quite low. We have Seed Destiny, 00, AGE and G-Reco. I sort of like Reco, but even I have to admit it's 1/2 good at best.

Hey now, the first season of 00 is brilliant, and GBF is the best Gundam anything, so the there is *some* hope!

Bones made Captain Earth and Eureka Seven AO (which, to be fair, doesn't canonically exist). BONES might not be your best bet. Maybe MAPPA?

AO wasn't bad, it just could've been so much better. I'm guessing that having all those years between the shows and with nothing in between put a dent to inspiration.

Spoiler

There is *no* E7 movie.

G-Gundam was one of my least favorite in the series, so I hope its nothing like that one.

There aren't enough Bright Slaps in the multiverse for this.

 

[Walpurgis]

I don't really keep up with these Gundams because there are so damn many but will they ever make a full length Gundam show like Gundam Seed and Gundam 00 again? I really liked Gundam 00.

 

[MMarston]

I don't really keep up with these Gundams because there are so damn many but will they ever make a full length Gundam show like Gundam Seed and Gundam 00 again? I really liked Gundam 00.

Just watch all of universal century man.



It's all you'll ever need.

 

[Unmasked Ferret]

I don't really keep up with these Gundams because there are so damn many but will they ever make a full length Gundam show like Gundam Seed and Gundam 00 again? I really liked Gundam 00.

Recently there's G Reconguista which had 26 episodes, and AGE which had 49 and a movie. I haven't seen G Reco but it's not suppose to be great. AGE is hit or miss, you might like it, you might hate it, you might like certain sections of it but not others.

Watch Universal Century or at least the highlights of it.

 

[Ezalc]

exactly my point. the suit was used as a jobber twice in GBF Try. It is unacceptable.

Now this I agree with. We need Spiegel back and make him the awesome kick ass mentor he always was. GBFT's sins just keep mounting. Sekai used the Burning finger once, ONCE! And he didn't even say the awesome "my hand is burning red..." line either. Disgraceful.

G-Gundam was one of my least favorite in the series, so I hope its nothing like that one.

May God Gundam have mercy on your heathen soul.

 

[JCG]

Spoiler

Haven't seen Try yet, please please tell me it's exempt from that D:

Spoiler

It isn't.

But I'd say it's still more tolerable than AGE, for example.

Just that the first GBF was surprisingly good and Try was...surprisingly generic.

 

[SilentSoldier]

What did you say?

Political Gundam with cool designs, characters and soundtracks >>>>>> WWF Gundam edition

 

[MMarston]

Political Gundam with cool designs, characters and soundtracks >>>>>> WWF Gundam edition

Man just because the series has delivered compelling - and sometimes traumatizing - political and social commentary on human nature and war through the medium of giant robots, doesn't mean we can't have fun with it.

I mean cam annnnnnnnnn

 

[CorvoSol]

The sad thing is, no matter what this ends up being, I can't help but feel that even if we end up really enjoying the first season or first half of the series, if it actually gets popular Sunrise will find some way to mess shit up. :/

Known also as Narag's Law of Sunrise Second Seasons.

Political Gundam with cool designs, characters and soundtracks >>>>>> WWF Gundam edition

Call me when Gundam actually has politics that amount to more than "SPACE GOOD, EARTH BAD."

And no, Victory substituting "Wheels" for "Space" doesn't count.

 

[Boss Doggie]

Just watch the ending theme of G-Reco.

Political Gundam with cool designs, characters and soundtracks >>>>>> WWF Gundam edition

that can't be right, G ain't WWE

if it is who is the Cena of gundam

 

[TatteredHat]

Last Gundam series I really liked was 00, though Unicorn and AGE were pretty good as well for the most part. Not really going to count Build Fighters, but it was entertaining.

Couldn't stand Reconquista though, so hopefully they'll do a better job with this.

 

[Acid08]

Political Gundam with cool designs, characters and soundtracks >>>>>> WWF Gundam edition

World Wildlife Fund Gundam Edition? Sounds way better than any Amuro/Char whine fest.