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He has a hook for a hand in the trailer.
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He has a hook for a hand in the trailer.
Regardless of him being perceived mainly as a "Sony character," Snake definitely deserves to be in Smash Bros. -- he's Konami's biggest character, and I'd like to see each of the major Japanese publishers have their mascot (or equivalent) in the game.
Konami - Snake
Sega - Sonic
Square Enix - Slime
Namco Bandai - Pac-Man
Capcom - Mega Man
Konami - Snake
Sega - Sonic
Square Enix - Slime
Namco Bandai - Pac-Man
Capcom - Mega Man
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Senator Soufflé
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I think Ryu would be a bit of a waste, having a character from a fighting game transferring over to another isn't all that interesting as they have established movesets etc.
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Ryu in general is boring as hell, from moves to visual design.
Mega Man.
I agree... but the way Mega Man has been treated lately, I think Capcom would go with something like RE or SF
He doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell, but he should have. I think the Mario RPG series are underrepresented in these kinds of games.
That's because the original characters are owned by Square Enix.
This only applies to the SNES Mario RPG. Squeenix have zero connection to the Paper Mario or Mario & Luigi games.
I don't know a whole lot about Slime (I've never played a Dragon Quest game), but Google pulls up a bunch of fan move-sets that could be reworked into something presentable:
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/633202-super-smash-bros-wii-u/59406499
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/633202-/60885641
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/633202-super-smash-bros-wii-u/59748201
All I know is that Square Enix deserves to have a character in Smash Bros., and Dragon Quest is more popular than Final Fantasy in Japan. It also helps that Slime is uncontestedly the face of Dragon Quest, whereas Final Fantasy doesn't really have a singular iconic mascot -- there are Chocobos and Moogles, but they don't strike me as the "playable character in a fighting game" type.
Slime's playable in Itadaki Street DS, Mario Sports Mix, and Fortune Street, so I guess he has that going for him, too.
Professor Beef
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There's no way to make Mega Man interesting enough to separate him from Samus or Kirby. Ryu 4 life. Fuck Mega Man.
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Well, I guess they could chose between Slime and Lighting (lol)
But let's not forget Sora or Riku too!
But let's not forget Sora or Riku too!
Nocturnowl
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You're right Beef, they should add Blanka.
Professor Beef
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What's that? It's OWL season? Well let me go get my gun.
Nocturnowl
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Well I don't know about you guys but i'm in the mood for BEEFburgers tonight, I hope you have a doctorate in deliciousness as well professor.
Watch Da Birdie
I buy cakes for myself on my birthday it's not weird lots of people do it I bet
Make Slime the Rocket Slime.
I like the trifecta of Bomberman, Mega Man, and Pac-Man myself since they're all cute and "work" besides the Nintendo characters. Plus, I dunno, three "man" characters rocks.
I like the trifecta of Bomberman, Mega Man, and Pac-Man myself since they're all cute and "work" besides the Nintendo characters. Plus, I dunno, three "man" characters rocks.
I'd have been open to Bomberman in Melee or Brawl, but he's technically a Konami character now, and I'd rather see Snake return. Konami getting two characters would throw things out of whack. It also doesn't help that Bomberman's somehow less relevant than even Mega Man these days.
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Less relevant than Mega Man is pretty bad.
Can we go back to this...
I know I've said this before, but: At what point in any of the 3 Smash Bros games have they gone for the most obvious choices? If somebody told you to pick the 12 most notable Nintendo characters when the original was released, would you pick Fox, Captain Falcon, Ness, Jigglypuff, hell, even Samus at that point? For Melee, Ice Climbers, Marth, Mr Game & Watch (and that's not even touching the clones, which were pretty much 50% absolute oddball choices). And in Brawl, even as we got more and more people speculating and calling for 'out there' choices, shortening the group of true 'surprise' characters, we still got Pokemon Trainer, Wolf, Lucas AND Ness (how could they both be in?), and, of course, the grandaddy of all weird choices, Snake.
Why, suddenly, would Smash 4 play it safe?
...for just a second?
I know I've said this before, but: At what point in any of the 3 Smash Bros games have they gone for the most obvious choices? If somebody told you to pick the 12 most notable Nintendo characters when the original was released, would you pick Fox, Captain Falcon, Ness, Jigglypuff, hell, even Samus at that point? For Melee, Ice Climbers, Marth, Mr Game & Watch (and that's not even touching the clones, which were pretty much 50% absolute oddball choices). And in Brawl, even as we got more and more people speculating and calling for 'out there' choices, shortening the group of true 'surprise' characters, we still got Pokemon Trainer, Wolf, Lucas AND Ness (how could they both be in?), and, of course, the grandaddy of all weird choices, Snake.
Why, suddenly, would Smash 4 play it safe?
Watch Da Birdie
I buy cakes for myself on my birthday it's not weird lots of people do it I bet
The only other Konami guy I can think of is a Castlevania Rep (Simon Belmont?), but then again it's not him in the new 3DS Castlevania, is it? But maybe make it Simon Belmont, and throw in references to the new titles.
Shadow Hog
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Actually, IIRC Star Fox 64 was pretty big at the time of Smash 64, so that wouldn't have been that out-there.
Captain Falcon, Jigglypuff or Ness, though? That'd be stretching it a bit.
Captain Falcon, Jigglypuff or Ness, though? That'd be stretching it a bit.
Watch Da Birdie
I buy cakes for myself on my birthday it's not weird lots of people do it I bet
This was when the Pokemon Series, and Anime was HUGE, and Jigglypuff was a regular, reoccurring character who everyone loved. Her being in seemed perfectly natural to me back then.
It's funny though how some of the series in Smash 64 never caught fire...Star Fox starred in a game that wasn't actually his, and two other disliked games, F-Zero got GX and some forgettable GBA games, and Yoshi's franchise was barren for a long time, making his inclusion as a separate series character a bit odd looking back. Even Donkey Kong basically was demoted to side-games for years bar DK64.
Nocturnowl
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Simon Belmont is one of the playable characters in Mirror of Fate, though if a Belmont were here in SSB i'd sooner have want Trevor Belmont for his spiffy coat, sure beats Simon's barbarian getup.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
It's not against the rules to betting for avatars or anything else. Maybe you must thought of our current rule that we can't bet for permabans, which is pretty much against the rules. IIRC
Yes, hopefully so. Hopefully it's the same tried and true design, but I think it has a chance of that since Pikachu and Jiggles hasn't changed.
ScraftyDevil
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Ugh, if Mewtwo or Roy make it back in above any other character, I think I'll be sick. Both weren't that great as characters in Melee, and Mewtwo is really overrated in my opinion. I'd honestly rather have a Gen V/VI rep and Lyn/Chrom over them any day of the week.
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If a Castlevania character is going to be in SSB4, then it should be a based on the Castlevania: Judgement redesigns
lol
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Yeah screw Mewtwo, I want TRANSFORMING GENESECT!
So it was towards the end of the "leak" where he was wrong then?
So it was towards the end of the "leak" where he was wrong then?
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Psssh. I would love to see Roy again, but if he didn't get in. No big deal.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
To be fair though, Roy was conceived during the time when clones are clones.
Yeah but I'm sick of Gen I representation being overabundant.
All dat sexy genesect
Yeah but I'm sick of Gen I representation being overabundant.
All dat sexy genesect
Nocturnowl
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I'd really like Mewtwo back but i'd also rather have some pokemon from each Gen if possible, ideally for me i'd perform what the SSB community dub as heresy and just cut Jiggs and put Mewtwo back in (or Charizard by himself with an overhaul), leave in Lucario for Gen 4 and then add two more pokemon from some of the other gens.
Pikachu
Mewtwo or Charizard or Jigglypuff
Lucario
*new pokemon*
*new pokemon*
Yeah I know this also cuts out the pokemon trainer concept but don't most people dislike the whole switching and stamina system? I don't mind it myself but i'd rather have movesets spent on more diverse character options across the board.
And not that I really have my finger on the pulse of what the kids like these days but surely Charizard and Mewtwo have held onto more popularity than Jigglypuff.
I've seen this enough to officially make it your catchphrase, it's now marketable!
Well to be fair on my part, Mewtwo is actually my favorite Pokemon (along with Rayquaza). So that's why you'll see me praise it on a consistent basis. Shame Gen III was skipped, though.
Yes. One day at a time I will inspire change in the overrated and underrated dispute hearts of those on GAF. This is my ninja way.
Watch Da Birdie
I buy cakes for myself on my birthday it's not weird lots of people do it I bet
Rayquaza being a boss battle was a fair trade-off, imo. Even if it doesn't make any sense for Rayquaza to be in a lake since he hangs out in the atmosphere and everything. But still, when DOJO had the video of him attacking Diddy Kong, I freaked the fuck out.
But now I'd like to see Nobunaga from Conquest with his black-face Rayquaza as a summon.
But now I'd like to see Nobunaga from Conquest with his black-face Rayquaza as a summon.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
That's why I'm more on less fattening on Genwunner reps.
Yeah I have been petitioning Nobunaga as playable for Zekrom/Rayquaza deliciousness
Nocturnowl
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Rayquaza did at least get boss representation as Birdie said, really it couldn't get much better for a pokemon that would never be playable.
The SSE boss lineup was so lame in retrospect, needed more Nintendo bosses, somehow Petey Piranha was one of the few Nintendo bosses that got in attacking with his signature move of Princess Cages, toxic goop? what's that?
But they were all relatively fun to fight though, i've got my intense boss battles badge of honour.
To break the cycle of hostility in this Gaf world, how idealistic but naive, I was once like you but then after tragic opinion dismissals I turned totally bitter...okay so I was never like that.
I can call it your member way from now on.
tiggerkiddo
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Is it wrong I wouldn't mind seeing Fawful in the next Smash game?
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Yes, it is absolutely wrong. We should be getting Geno instead.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Nocturnowl
Member
Considering he's had a role in all 3 M&L games from main henchman, small cameo and finally to main villain I think Fawful should actually be one of the more possible Mario choices, the RPG games are still ignored in SSB.
Though he seems more like an AT role on the whole, an AT that must happen.
Geno has nothing on that.
Though he seems more like an AT role on the whole, an AT that must happen.
Geno has nothing on that.
Professor Beef
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An actual wooden doll has more personality than Geno.
tiggerkiddo
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I thought people liked the silent but super awesome guy? That's how I see Geno. He doesn't need personality, Super Mario RPG is chock full of it.
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Looks like my plan to make everyone admit their hidden love for Fawful has worked.
Seriously though what kind of moveset could he have?
Seriously though what kind of moveset could he have?
Watch Da Birdie
I buy cakes for myself on my birthday it's not weird lots of people do it I bet
I'd love to see Kirby's Metal Lobster as a boss in Smash 4, he's the coolest Kirby Boss.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
You don't need to have a plan, we prefer Fawful more
I actually like Metal General in RtD as a boss too.
tiggerkiddo
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Nothing wrong with having both Geno and Fawful, more representation from that line of Mario games is always good.
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