He's already a big part of Dedede's moveset, and frankly, that's all he deserves. His only prominent role is in a game that Sakurai had absolutely nothing to do with.
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Green Mamba
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Medusa will be lucky to be anything other than a trophy.
I wasn't really speaking in terms of moveset ideas, I was merely bemoaning the idea of having to dig so ridiculously low into a has been franchise for characters when there are other series out there that deserve a first character. And not even specifically bemoaning the Star Fox example--just as a representative of how far into a series to dig up newcomers they should absolutely not go.
I would say, at the very least, Yoshi and Wario represent their respective series well enough on their own. Yoshi especially really does not need a character.
I think there still should be a franchise neutral villain at the heart of it all like Tabuu, I reject the idea of choosing one Nintendo villain over the other as the main antagonist.
Yes I was talking about Medusa and my thoughts exactly. By simply adding more Nintendo Villains throughout the story would easily make it better than Brawls.
......I hate to say it but i kinda agree :\ Especially with kirby, star fox, and yoshi
Ouch, not even trophy worthy. And agreed there should be a main neutral villain at the end behind the scenes when you have a all star game like Smash, but I think the Nintendo villains should at least have more of a presence.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Much better than Krystal though.
Green Mamba
Member
Yes, we get it, you hate Krystal.
EDIT: I will say that, if we get a fourth Star Fox character (which I hope to god we don't but it's a possibility) I'd much rather take a member of Star Fox over a member of Star Wolf, even if it is Krystal. Having two members of Star Wolf to two members of Star Fox makes them look too important to the series as a whole when the series is, in reality, about a team called Star Fox.
If Slippy was in Smash Bros:
Hey, I'll take on Bowser myselfOH GOD HELP ME FOX!!!!thank you Fox you savedHELP ME FOX!!!
She's a terrible character with no redeeming value, IMHO.
Hey, I'll take on Bowser myselfOH GOD HELP ME FOX!!!!thank you Fox you savedHELP ME FOX!!!
She's a terrible character with no redeeming value, IMHO.
Green Mamba
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I think we can, at the very least, all agree that we need a Star Fox newcomer like we need a hole in the head.
Choppasmith
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In hopes that they go with actual costumes for characters, I see Medusa being a costume for Palutena but I love that Cree Summer voice for her. Same thing with Rosalina.
If Palutena gets a clone, I think Viridi would work better (smaller and lighter, nature moveset). More of a Toon / Young Link compared to Medusa's Wolf.
*groan* Seriously dude, give it a break already.
But I do agree I'd hate to see another redundant "Wolf" pick.
Green Mamba
Member
Never!
From a purely objective point of view I really don't want to see Viridi playable out of any Uprising character, if only because out of so many viable characters to pull from she's like one of the few in the game that's never actually physically seen doing anything. I'd take Magnus over her, importance be damned, and Magnus shouldn't be playable either.
Though, maybe her as a clone would be okay over a different character with actual displayed moveset potential.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
wat?
Leon's pretty big in Japan. And yeah, I'd say Star Wolf are pretty important in the main games. Only 2 non-appearances, but in those they were either a) not invented yet (Star Fox SNES) or b) didn't really have a purpose being in there (Adventures).
And Leon and Panther have really decent designs, although for me I want to see Panther as more of an agile swordsman due to the whole Latin stereotype in him.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Feh, you might be right, but it was just weird to see Tabuu in the game. For me, I felt that he was out of nowhere and out of the place, but it kidna work tho.
I would like to see this guy as mastermind/puppetmaster.
Green Mamba
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Even with them appearing in most of the games in the series they typically only appear in less than a third of the levels in the game. The Star Fox series is about the Star Fox team. They are completely ubiquitous to the entire series--putting the Star Wolf team on the same level as them belies how much the two teams' importance to the Star Fox series are not equivalent, no matter how much you like Leon and Panther.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
They're rivals tho :x
Shadow Hog
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I seriously doubt we'd get the other Star Wolf team members over another Star Fox team member.
As much as Boss Doggie is trying to deny it, Krystal would be more likely. Hell, Peppy would be more likely.
As much as Boss Doggie is trying to deny it, Krystal would be more likely. Hell, Peppy would be more likely.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
You mean Slippy. If you're at least going to mention a Star Fox character, mention the most likely one.
Yeah surprise, Slippy is loved in Japan.
Choppasmith
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Oh absolutely. I see what you're saying. I'd prefer Magnus too although I wonder if he can have a moveset that wouldn't be too similar too a Fire Emblem character like Ike. I think there are enough variety in weapons that Viridi could have a unique enough moveset. I see Palutena being a somewhat slow and heavy character like Zelda, Medusa I feel would be more of the same and I'd rather have someone who could move nimbly than someone heavier and slower.
For the record, I'd be happy with just Palutena as a KI rep (as long as there were some banter from all the characters on the new KI stage ala the MGS and Star Fox stages) I'm just speaking of a hypothetical clone scenario.
Shirtless Krystal with well-defined muscle tone for Smash!! Watch it happen.
lol, just saying. I think Krystal IS the most likely option if SF were to get another character.
Shadow Hog
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Break out more Jigglypuff/Sonic matches
It's all about Goombario/Goombella.
Incendiary
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If they bring in a Paper Mario character, 10 to 1 it'd be Paper Mario himself.
Green Mamba
Member
Especially considering Sticker Star basically booted everyone out of Paper Mario who wasn't an already established mainline Mario character.
Paper Mario could represent his own series right? When it comes to likely candidates for Smash I feel the more I think the less I really know.
True. Everybody demographic most be pleased. lol
True. Everybody demographic most be pleased. lol
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Aren't half of the cast naked (shoes and neckties don't count)?
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
What have I done with my Krystal comment? hah
Lemme try:
Mario: Rosalina, Bowser Jr.
Donkey Kong: K. Rool
Zelda: Impa, Ghirahim
Star Fox: KRYSTAL
F-Zero: Samurai Goroh
Metroid: Ridley
Wario: Capt. Syrup
Fire Emblem: Chrom
Kid Icarus: Palutena
Lemme try:
Mario: Rosalina, Bowser Jr.
Donkey Kong: K. Rool
Zelda: Impa, Ghirahim
Star Fox: KRYSTAL
F-Zero: Samurai Goroh
Metroid: Ridley
Wario: Capt. Syrup
Fire Emblem: Chrom
Kid Icarus: Palutena
FUNKNOWN iXi
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That would be cool to have another flat 2D character like Mr.G&W
Also, they need to start doing alternate costumes for characters because Yarn Yoshi would be legit:
I want that extra HD detail. I want to see bits flopping and jiggling in the wind.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Well we already got fur detailed and-Holy shit Cow is back
You know you have problems when you are a female character and even GameFAQs hates you (the Smash 4 board there is basically waifu-land).
Krystal also has been absent from Star Fox longer than K. Rool and Dixie Kong have been absent from DK/Mario.
I think Waddle Dee (Bandanna) or Krystal are possible and plausible, however, I think both characters have obstacles going against them (especially Krystal). However, I could see Bandanna Dee eventually getting in if he continues to have major roles in Kirby games like he did in Return to Dream Land.
I think for a series that is not Mario/Zelda/Pokemon, the two most likely series to reach four playable characters will be Donkey Kong (if K. Rool and Dixie Kong are added) or Fire Emblem (if Ike stays, Roy returns, and Chrom is added in).
Black-Wind
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SF hasn't had a new game since ... 06. Which was also a game she was apart of.
(Unless you're counting a 64 remake as the same as Donkey Kong Country Returns ...)
All the more reason not to include a new Star Fox character. I feel the next Smash Bros. game will have the Star Fox characters borrow their designs and content largely from 64 3D.
The only "new" game received in the past six years was an upgraded port of Star Fox 64 (which is by far the most popular game in the series).
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Actually Smash tends to make Star Fox look "original", borrowing only similarity from the games. This is much more seen in Brawl where each character has a template from various games - Fox is in his Command "face" while keeping his 64 uniform, Falco is in his total 64 look with Assault's structure, and Wolf is all Assault - and while the three getting some unique Brawl designs despite those templates.
So the "new look" rule doesn't apply to them unlike say, Zelda.
So the "new look" rule doesn't apply to them unlike say, Zelda.
ScraftyDevil
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Welcome back, man. Don't go getting yourself banned again, y'hear?
On-topic; if there are to be any newcomers from already-repped series, I think they should reach deeper into their respective catalogues. Instead of Waluigi or Daisy; use Fawful. Instead of Tingle or Toon Zelda; use Vaati. Instead of Zoroark or Mewtwo; use Scrafty or Sunglasses Krookodile.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
You want pantsless Scrafty
Spring-Loaded
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don't know if this has already been mentioned, but the next game's adventure mode needs to draw heavily from Nintendo's past rather than having a bunch of new enemies/generic environments.
Not only was a lot of the content that was unique to SSB:B's Subspace Emissary horrifying (what the fuck), but the overall "storyline" could've been the same, yet with other Nintendo worlds/enemies used instead.
And I still want to see the Macbeth train from Star Fox 64/SF64SD as a level. And the kid's desk from SSB64 as a level too
Not only was a lot of the content that was unique to SSB:B's Subspace Emissary horrifying (what the fuck), but the overall "storyline" could've been the same, yet with other Nintendo worlds/enemies used instead.
And I still want to see the Macbeth train from Star Fox 64/SF64SD as a level. And the kid's desk from SSB64 as a level too
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