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Next Super Smash Bros. discussion thread, Community Edition
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I think Smash does a good job of balancing that out, though. I mean, Pokemon Reps are Pikachu, Jigglypuff, Squirtle, Ivysaur, Charizard and Lucario. That's only one "cool" one. Two if you count Charizard.
Honestly I kinda want Darmanitan. Zen mode would be a fun attack to use sometimes.
I don't mean it in either way you say it. It just seems they are limiting the Pokemon series to have 4 "characters" (on the character select screen).
By having a "Pokemon Trainer" they managed to give a way so more Pokemon represent the Pokemon series in Brawl.
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Holy shit where is this from?
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Hahaha.
I wouldn't be surprised if it's from infamous Winnie the Pooh baseball (japanese flash game)
Shadow Hog
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Well, no, it's probably not from the Flash itself...
Either way, looks like Christopher Robin is punishing the non-believer Winnie the Pooh.
Either way, looks like Christopher Robin is punishing the non-believer Winnie the Pooh.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
No, I meant the thread itself. Sorry for not being clear enough.
Shadow Hog
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Sorry for being a nitpicky pedant, heh <_<
I don't think they care, nor should they. If Mewtwo had gotten in there would've been 5, if Plusle and Minun made it then there would've been 6. So they clearly weren't too worried.
No characters from Brawl should be removed at this point - we've seen the backlash that occurs even when nobody likes the character anyway (remember how everyone hated Mewtwo in Melee? Even though something like 3 starfox characters is an absolute waste, I wouldn't be removing any now). Pokemon needs to retain at least Pikachu, Jiggles, Trainer and Lucario. Mewtwo returning as himself or newtwo or both makes sense. So thats 5 already. Might as well chuck in 6 if they really feel like it. Go with Vaniluxe. The 'new Pokemon are shit' people would love it.
Oh yea, you're right. That keeps slipping my mind.
Illusion could work like this:
- By pressing down-B, Zoroark transforms into a random character (on the field)
- Zoroark still keeps its moveset (and hitbox) but looks like the enemy.
- For example, if you transformed into Mario, if pressed A, it would punch like Mario, but the range and effect would be like Zoroark's. You could deceive people because you'd be used to reacting to a characters moves in a certain way, and Zoroark could mess that up
- Effect wears off after taking damage
- Can't use b-moves (save for-down b) while transformed
- Possible damage penalty for using it?
I wouldn't want them to put Zoroark into smash if they couldn't implement Illusion.
The problem is, if you're playing as Zoroark, how would YOU be able to tell who you are?! It would be very easy, if your character looked exactly like the opponent, the get your character mixed up. And if there was a visual giveaway to help you tell them apart...well, that kind of defeats the purpose then, doesn't it?
I think the N idea would resolve that. Zoroark could be used in one of N's special moves, but in that case they wouldn't necessarily have to use Illusion. Maybe he could just use Night Daze or something to attack.
Still, Mewtwo/Newtwo for the next Smash Bros. all the way.
Watch Da Birdie
I buy cakes for myself on my birthday it's not weird lots of people do it I bet
I still want Genesect in, that's become my obsessive character choice for Smash Brothers 4.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
I actually want Meloetta because form changing in-game
FUNKNOWN iXi
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DICKS AHOY
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Was that Pichu inclusion from the April Fools video actually going to happen? I don't mind either way but it'd be cool to also see Mewtwo and Roy make it into Project M as well if that's the case.
Black-Wind
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I think that if Zoroark gets in he should simply use his power to play like a Mesmer from GW2.
Make clones of himself that do lil-if-any damage but make it hard to hit the real him.
Make clones of himself that do lil-if-any damage but make it hard to hit the real him.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Pichu is a joke from them. Turbo mode is real.
Green Mamba
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Let me bring up another example of a character design I really hope they don't use.
This... thing.
Though maybe it's just the terrible artwork that hurts it for me, but I really hope that if Ike gets back in they don't use this awful design.
Jeez what an awful drawing. That's something I'd be embarrassed to turn in. Perspective, how does it work.
This... thing.
Though maybe it's just the terrible artwork that hurts it for me, but I really hope that if Ike gets back in they don't use this awful design.
Jeez what an awful drawing. That's something I'd be embarrassed to turn in. Perspective, how does it work.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Oh, I cant unsee now.
Chet Rippo
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Robo Ike!
SenorArdilla
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Maybe it'll grow on you. Like how Ike managed to grow his sword arm.
You know that one artist's inability to draw well will have no affect on what Ike looks like in game. They go through this complex process called making 3D models that don't suffer from dodgy perspectives. Also he'll have to match the art style of the rest of the game.
It's just foreshortened right? Even so, I can't unsee now either. Sword arm...
Green Mamba
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It's still an ugly design that says nothing about his character.
Radiant Dawn Ike is Ike's best look.
Nocturnowl
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Aren't those alternative FE designs limited by the default class design styles in Awakening or something due to how the DLC characters are done? hence why Ike's attire isn't at all like any of his previous.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
It's actually pretty decent look. It's the art that ruins it.
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Atlus needs a Rep. In Smash 4.
A loli from Etrian Odyssey > 
ScraftyDevil
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It needs to be either Koromaru from Persona 3 (because screw logic, that's why) or Haken from Super Robot Taisen OG Saga Endless Frontier because his moveset is an awesome fit for Smash and his game was developed by Monolith Soft, which gives him some extra footholds.
A loli from Etrian Odyssey >
Get out
On a side note, I kind of want to try out the DS EO games because of the music. I'm such a sucker for Genesis-esque music.
Watch Da Birdie
I buy cakes for myself on my birthday it's not weird lots of people do it I bet
Atlus needs a Rep. In Smash 4.
A loli from Etrian Odyssey >
The SMT 4 Main character is pretty cool looking, like a swordsman + summoner archetype.
A loli from Etrian Odyssey >
Give me one of: any of the main PCs from the Persona franchise, Chie, Junpei, Yosuke, Mitsuru, Akihiko, Yukiko... hell even Jack Frost!
Red Arremer
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I'd love Bugaboo, he's from the DS SMT.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
I don't think altus rep should be in the game, but that's me.
This is how I feel. Glad to know I'm not alone. Though I may change my mind with SMT X FE and how well it goes together, but I doubt it will be out long before SSB4.
I am in this boat too.
I almost forgot SMT X FE was happening, so having a rep from Atlus may be relevant, but I'm not the biggest fan of having too many third party characters--just the essentials is enough. That being major players during the NES, SNES, and 64 era.
Yup, and after seeing that shitty Megaman reboot they tried to do, I hope Capcom has some sense to try and get Megaman into SSB4. It fits well with many characters, and would be crazy to announce it at E3 since it is Megaman's 25th anniversary.
Shadow Hog
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26th, actually.
Oh, well since they did shit for Megaman's anniversary, make this a late 25th anniversary present.
It's a bit crazy when you look at Megaman's 20th anniversary and compare it to his 25th...
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