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[IntelliHeath]

Well the good news is that he isn't going solely for Smash, so if there's no playable build there he won't be COMPLETELY crushed.

It's good to know that. I hope that he enjoy his time there. I'm sure that he will have a lot of fun and freebies on his hands.

 

[qq more]

Sounds like genwunner talk.

Nah, I love a lot of Pokemon from all of the generations. Snivy/Stoutland are in my top 10 if that tells you anything

 

[Bisnic]

Anyone else is hoping that we'll get a Xenoblade's stage with the Mechonis looming in the background in full HD while Shulk, Link, Mario and Reyn fight each other? And then Reyn use his Final Smash : Reyn Time!

Ok, now i'm going to be disappointed if that doesn't happen.

 

[Nocturnowl]

While I don't really expect a playable Xenoblade character I do demand a stage, and maybe the Monado as an overpowered item, it'd be like the beam sword on steroids.
Speaking of a Xenoblade stage, since Bionis Leg is the obvious choice the stage hazard should be one of the territorial monsters coming in and changing the current stage theme to the unique monster battle theme while it wrecks havoc, or if it's the humongous ape thing the music changes to the run for your damn life theme.

 

[Mr. Fix]

While I don't really expect a playable Xenoblade character [...]

.

 

[Nocturnowl]

Hey i'd like to be surprised

Spoiler

with playable Dunban.

 

[DaBoss]

I'm hoping for Mechonis Arm as the stage for Xenoblade.

 

[Kjellson]

Shulk will be playable. I just know it.

 

[DICKS AHOY]

Project X is pretty blatantly Xenoblade related. Considering Monolith Studios is a bonafide, world-wide part of Nintendo now, Xenoblade is going to be a series and isn't Japan-only, I don't see how Shulk is unlikely for SSB4 at all. Series is hurting for more recent IP's to pull fighters from than 2001's Pikmin.

 

[Dr.Thunder]

Even if we don't get Shulk I hope we at least get a Bionis stage. I would be happy with just that and some of that sweet Xenoblade music.

 

[SkyOdin]

I still think that the Fallen Arm would be the best possible stage as a Xenoblade representation. Standing somewhere near the wrist where you can see all five fingers in the background, with both Bionis monsters and Mechon lurking in the background, would be a perfect visual example of what makes Xenoblade's setting what it is. It is a good way to justify having both Bionis and Mechonis visible in the background too.

 

[Jigolo]

If Sheik doesn't make a return I will cry.

 

[IntelliHeath]

Anyone else is hoping that we'll get a Xenoblade's stage with the Mechonis looming in the background in full HD while Shulk, Link, Mario and Reyn fight each other? And then Reyn use his Final Smash : Reyn Time!

Ok, now i'm going to be disappointed if that doesn't happen.

I really hope for that stage and Shulk.

While I don't really expect a playable Xenoblade character I do demand a stage, and maybe the Monado as an overpowered item, it'd be like the beam sword on steroids.
Speaking of a Xenoblade stage, since Bionis Leg is the obvious choice the stage hazard should be one of the territorial monsters coming in and changing the current stage theme to the unique monster battle theme while it wrecks havoc, or if it's the humongous ape thing the music changes to the run for your damn life theme.

I'm afraid that Shulk might get shifted with Wonderful 101 character for newest IP in Nintendo.

 

[Boss Doggie]

I agree with Suede - people give Newtwo too much flak when Mewtwo is not much of a magical design either.

 

[GamerSoul]

If Sheik doesn't make a return I will cry.

Don't worry Impa will make a fine replacement.

 

[IntelliHeath]

Don't worry Impa will make a fine replacement.

I'm very curious what kind of moves Zelda and Impa would receive for Down + B if it happened.

 

[DICKS AHOY]

Don't worry Impa will make a fine replacement.

And you'll always be able to play as Sheik if you choose Zelda/Impa's OoT/TP costumes, including her original taunts and voice files

Spoiler

if fate is kind

.

Seriously, hope Sakurai takes some cues from PSASBR in that respect. It'd also be a quick and dirty way to have Daisy/Rosalina/Pichu/Dr. Mario/etc. in the game without devoting time to new movesets.

I'm very curious what kind of moves Zelda and Impa would receive for Down + B if it happened.

Instead of it being a physical transformation either a time gate or just a beam of light replaces Zelda/Impa with the other? Just like Pokemon Trainer.

 

[qq more]

I agree with Suede - people give Newtwo too much flak when Mewtwo is not much of a magical design either.

I think Newtwo deserves all of the flak it got.

But let's agree to disagree since we both have very different tastes.

 

[DICKS AHOY]

If I preface myself with 'I really like most of the new designs they've shown off for X/Y so far' every time I say how stupid looking Mew-Penishead is will that be okay

Also could honestly see it being a 'two-birds-with-one-stone' way of both having a new Pokemon rep and bringing back Mewtwo's old moveset, as bittersweet as that'd be. Ultimately it's more Mewtwo's floaty teleporting fun moveset I want back than the character, so I'd probably live.

 

[Boss Doggie]

Seriously, hope Sakurai takes some cues from PSASBR in that respect. It'd also be a quick and dirty way to have Daisy/Rosalina/Pichu/Dr. Mario/etc. in the game without devoting time to new movesets.

Good god no.

See, I can see Dr. Mario being treated as a costume since it's really the same character in another clothing.

Daisy? Nope.

 

[DICKS AHOY]

Good god no.

See, I can see Dr. Mario being treated as a costume since it's really the same character in another clothing.

Daisy? Nope.

I sure as fuck don't want somebody who literally was just created to be a pallette swap of Peach getting their own player slot, so why run that risk when you can just quickly bring her VA in, get her to record a few lines and then have her as a costume/model-swap for Peach to appease a few people who want her in proper without devoting any real dev-time to her?

 

[GamerSoul]

And you'll always be able to play as Sheik if you choose Zelda/Impa's OoT/TP costumes, including her original taunts and voice files

Spoiler

if fate is kind

.

Seriously, hope Sakurai takes some cues from PSASBR in that respect. It'd also be a quick and dirty way to have Daisy/Rosalina/Pichu/Dr. Mario/etc. in the game without devoting time to new movesets.

I would be totally ok with alt costumes being treated like that. And i think Impa would work great with SS Zelda. Imo, her moveset would far be more interesting than Sheik's.

 

[Boss Doggie]

I sure as fuck don't want somebody who literally was just created to be a pallette swap of Peach getting their own player slot, so why run that risk when you can just quickly bring her VA in, get her to record a few lines and then have her as a costume/model-swap for Peach to appease a few people who want her in proper without devoting any real dev-time to her?

Because Daisy has evolved from being a palette swap. I'd agree with you if it was during the 64 days, but I picture Daisy now as the tomboy equivalent whose default outfit is the sportswear and uses sports-based attacks.

Yeah, fuck Waluigi.

In any case, it would lead to shit like "Why is Wolf not just Fox's alt" and other crap.

 

[qq more]

Hey hey hey

Don't be dissin' Waluigi

 

[Azure J]

I am so excite right now. Why am I doing this to myself so many days in advance?

 

[Mr. Fix]

Yeah, fuck Waluigi.

Not cool.

 

[IntelliHeath]

I am so excite right now. Why am I doing this to myself so many days in advance?

It's only 10 days so its not that bad. Is it?

 

[RawkHawk2010]

Pretend it's the ten days leading up to the Cell Games.

(They'll go by quick.)

 

[DICKS AHOY]

Because Daisy has evolved from being a palette swap. I'd agree with you if it was during the 64 days, but I picture Daisy now as the tomboy equivalent whose default outfit is the sportswear and uses sports-based attacks.

Yeah, fuck Waluigi.

In any case, it would lead to shit like "Why is Wolf not just Fox's alt" and other crap.

Because more often than not it's that or nothing? If the clones that were in Melee could have been costumes/model swaps (even Ganondorf and Falco) just for that game but that gave the team enough time to complete another fully original character like Dedede or Wario*, wouldn't you prefer that scenario?

Not to mention most of what defines Daisy is already in Peach's regular moveset (sports-related attacks :V).

* Somebody back me up here, but didn't the Melee Dojo or a Famitsu quote Sakurai say when it came down to Melee's last few months of development, it came down to either having the 6 clones they got or a single original character like Dedede or Wario?

I am so excite right now. Why am I doing this to myself so many days in advance?

Looking forward to seeing Mike Jones in SSB4's trailer

Spoiler

as an assist trophy

?

 

[Boss Doggie]

Wut, the only sports-related attack Peach has is one of the random f smash (golf club).

And I seriously doubt the Melee problem would happen. Didn't they manage to avoid that in Brawl?

 

[DICKS AHOY]

Wut, the only sports-related attack Peach has is one of the random f smash (golf club).

And I seriously doubt the Melee problem would happen. Didn't they manage to avoid that in Brawl?

Because Brawl was in development for over two years compared to Melee's 13 months and hence they had time, money and manpower to avoid last-minute character additions besides Sonic? The new 'clones' in Brawl were also far more different to their counterparts than Melee's were as well.

Realistically I just don't see somebody like Daisy getting in and definitely don't see old versions such as OoT/TP/'Young' Zelda characters getting their own slots, so why not take the hypothetical compromise and have them as a model-swapped costume instead?

Also Peach also has stuff the tennis racket and kicks. Besides Toad and arguably turnips there really isn't anything there that'd look 'off' Daisy doing, and even that stuff can be just re-animated to be something like her chucking flowers or some shit.

 

[GamerSoul]

Because Daisy has evolved from being a palette swap. I'd agree with you if it was during the 64 days, but I picture Daisy now as the tomboy equivalent whose default outfit is the sportswear and uses sports-based attacks.

Yeah, fuck Waluigi.

In any case, it would lead to shit like "Why is Wolf not just Fox's alt" and other crap.

I get what you're saying but since they can't possibly implement every idea they have for certain characters Alts would be a nice little feature in the end.

AND you know Sakurai's Wolf luvin butt will never do that to him.

Hey hey hey

Don't be dissin' Waluigi

He sucks though. :l I hope he stays an AT so I don't have to see his face.

 

[Boss Doggie]

Because Brawl was in development for over two years compared to Melee's 13 months and hence they had time, money and manpower to avoid last-minute character additions besides Sonic? The new 'clones' in Brawl were also far more different to their counterparts than Melee's were as well.

Realistically I just don't see somebody like Daisy getting in and definitely don't see old versions such as OoT/TP/'Young' Zelda characters getting their own slots, so why not take the hypothetical compromise and have them as a model-swapped costume instead?

Also Peach also has stuff the tennis racket and kicks. Besides Toad and arguably turnips there really isn't anything there that'd look 'off' Daisy doing, and even that stuff can be just re-animated to be something like her chucking flowers or some shit.

Oh yeah forgot about the tennis racket, but the kicks are so broad.

And I'd rather have the current characters "wear" costumes of other characters than the other characters becoming skins.

And like I said, I doubt Smash U would have troubles like Melee because it seemed to be planned more. And I like me some tomboyish female characters doing tomboyish things damnit!

 

[Azure J]

Looking forward to seeing Mike Jones in SSB4's trailer

Spoiler

as an assist trophy

?

Don't Lyn me bro!

Also #TeamDaisy.

 

[DaBoss]

Pretend it's the ten days leading up to the Cell Games.

(They'll go by quick.)

But only two people are allowed in the chamber.

Edit: Wait, no that "slows down time".

 

[astarisborn94]

Am I the only one here that actually likes the new design and expects both the original and the new form for Mewtwo?

I'm also confident that Sheik will return. I don't see any reason why Impa would replace Sheik.

 

[Gattuso]

Am I the only one here that actually likes the new design and expects both the original and the new form for Mewtwo?

I'm also confident that Sheik will return. I don't see any reason why Impa would replace Sheik.

I expect if mewtwo gets in the other form will be in it in some way. i also don't really feel one way or the other about the design.
I feel sheik is here to stay.

 

[TheGannondork]

My only hope is the game feels faster and less floaty than Brawl did. I enjoyed Brawl for what it was but I always liked how Melee felt more. I guess i'll at least have some idea soon.

 

[peanutbutterlatte]

I feel like Mewtwo/Newtwo will be a Sheik/Zelda type character.

 

[Boss Doggie]

I feel like Mewtwo/Newtwo will be a Sheik/Zelda type character.

His down B is shit anyway so might as well give it forme change.

And change Side B to Psystrike (billions of energy swarm to an enemy) and B to Psywave (an pulse-like attack).

 

[BGBW]

By the time Smash Bros comes out I may have actually finished Xenoblade.

 

[Neoriceisgood]

His down B is shit anyway so might as well give it forme change.

And change Side B to Psystrike (billions of energy swarm to an enemy) and B to Psywave (an pulse-like attack).

I'd love a Mewtwo with a moveset that was actually good.

 

[SuperAngelo64]

I'm still not sure if the Waluigi fandom on GAF is just some big joke I'm not in on.

 

[DICKS AHOY]

Even as a kid I knew Mewtwo's moveset in Melee was complete shit competitively but I still loved just teleporting around and how floaty all his animations were. Sonic is similarly terrible to play seriously in Brawl but really fun if you're just playing him for kicks.

I'm still not sure if the Waluigi fandom on GAF is just some big joke I'm not in on.

Waluigi is one of those characters who I really want to like but the story behind his existence (Wario having a girlfriend was unrealistic so they just gave him a brother, though ironically a couple years later they made Mona and she appears in jack shit :/) and how little he gets used beyond being Wario's partner in spin-off games means there's seriously nothing to go off with the guy. There are far worse Mario/Wario additions to have in SSB4 I guess but I'd vastly prefer Mona/Syrup/Ashley if Wario gets a 2nd rep.

 

[Nocturnowl]

I'm still not sure if the Waluigi fandom on GAF is just some big joke I'm not in on.

I'm there with you man, just extend it from GAF to the Internet.

Even as a kid I knew Mewtwo's moveset in Melee was complete shit competitively but I still loved just teleporting around and how floaty all his animations were. Sonic is similarly terrible to play seriously in Brawl but really fun if you're just playing him for kicks.

Mewtwo's general awkwardness is what makes him so damn fun, spending matches trying to pull off a successful disable, confusing other players with teleport spam, ah good times.

 

[Village]

I would like daisy with sports moves

No waluigi

 

[Green Mamba]

I'm still not sure if the Waluigi fandom on GAF is just some big joke I'm not in on.

I don't know about everyone else, but Waluigi is my favorite Mario character, no lying.

 

[SuperAngelo64]

If Waluigi gets in over Mona as a Wario rep I'll flip my shit.

 

[Green Mamba]

Waluigi isn't a Wario character, so that isn't happening.

 

[DICKS AHOY]

Shouldn't that in-itself bring up numerous questions about Waluigi's quality as a character design when he's completely divorced from the franchise of the guy he's meant to be the partner/brother of?