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3rd Party Characters I want to see:
Mega Man
Tails
Geno
Ryu
Sora
Mega Man seems like the obvious next choice for a third party character in Smash Bros. Tails is admittedly me just being biased, but it'd be pretty awesome to see him in there. Geno I honestly just picked because the rest of the internet says so. Ryu is another iconic third party character that would make sense. Maybe not as likely as Mega Man, but still pretty likely. And Sora... I could see maybe possibly but kinda not really happening. He isn't as household as the others, but if KH 3D does well enough, that might help his case.
Mega Man
Tails
Geno
Ryu
Sora
Mega Man seems like the obvious next choice for a third party character in Smash Bros. Tails is admittedly me just being biased, but it'd be pretty awesome to see him in there. Geno I honestly just picked because the rest of the internet says so. Ryu is another iconic third party character that would make sense. Maybe not as likely as Mega Man, but still pretty likely. And Sora... I could see maybe possibly but kinda not really happening. He isn't as household as the others, but if KH 3D does well enough, that might help his case.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Alright,
SSB: 12 characters and 9 stages
SSBM: 26 characters and 29 stages
SSBB: 39 characters and 41 stages
SSBU: ? characters and ? stages
SSB: 12 characters and 9 stages
SSBM: 26 characters and 29 stages
SSBB: 39 characters and 41 stages
SSBU: ? characters and ? stages
DICKS AHOY
Banned
If you do it by taking the average of how many additions each sequel has had:
SSBRoyaleWithCheese:5355 characters and 57 stages
WOW
SSBRoyaleWithCheese:
WOW
This is probably way more then the final game will have
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
I agreed. It would be nice if character would get their own representation stage. Also I found the link to article where the person thought sakurai would mention 50 characters.
http://andriasang.com/comw97/iwata_asks_smash_bros/
he said he could but he don't meant it as confirmation.
Earthbound was even worse, getting only one new stage and it's a stage barely anyone plays on because it's fucking huge.
Atleast they got some awesome stuff in SSE like the porky statue and boss fight.
The Xtortionist
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k. rool plz sakurai thx
All of them should be back. No excuses.
Smashville was great. Hope to see it back. Also, Dreamland 64.
More proof about my assessment that much of Geno's requests actually derive from blind bandwagonism. Fortunately, the bandwagon for Geno has mostly died out. I think even Waluigi would make more sense as a Mario newcomer than a one-shot side character. The best choices for a Mario newcomer are Toad, Paper Mario, or Bowser Jr.
Also, I sincerely hope that Sakurai will have Ridley as one of the first newcomers unveiled. He is probably the most well-known Nintendo character (outside of the Mario universe) that is not yet playable in Smash Bros.
The Xtortionist
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too big
The second reason I want Ridley to be one of the first newcomers is so that I no longer have to hear this absurd line of reasoning, especially considering that he has already been resized to that of other fighters already within the Smash Bros. canon
http://www.mariowiki.com/images/4/4d/Ridley-Cameo-SSBMelee.png
The Xtortionist
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when he spawns in against samus, she should have a nervous breakdown and transform into ZSS
So thats the origin of that 9-volt minigame in Wario ware...
I think it'd be neat to see Hanafuda be represented in some way, namely in the character Rainman:
But I guess Nintendo doesn't really own the character. However, I saw a moveset someone thought up for him based on the different cards in the game years ago, and it's actually very plausible. Though his chances of actually becoming a playable character is a completely different story.
Would like to see Young Link get the Pokemon Trainer treatment (aka Mask Link). Have the ability to transform into Deku, Goron & Zora Links - with Fierce Deity Link as the Final Smash (if they return). Would work well if Majora's Mask gets the 3DS remake.
there is never enough representation.
Jorok Goldblade
Member
Olimar is too small.
Professor Beef
Banned
So is Pikachu.
Black-Wind
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So it's as I said ... you're basing this on the prediction that in a possible reboot of the series at some unknown time in the future you simply feel that the devs, whatever team they may be, will erase her in your PoV atleast.
I will simply say that not only do we (you and me) not know if it's getting a reboot, we don't know who would be doing the reboot nor do we have any clue as to wth they think of the characters.
If comics and movies and shows have shown us anything it's that a "reboot" can be used to change/ fix/ improve characters and plot elements that may have gotten lost in the process of the original run ... they don't have to be simple resets that moves on from a single point in the timeline deemed "safe".
Who would I be polling? Smash fans or S&P fans? Cause I'm sure smash fans may have a favorite simply out of limited exposure to the series and I'm sure Sakurai isn't thinking in this way.
I personally don't care.
Saki and Airan Jo
Kachi and Isa Jo
I would love what I'm envisioning to be a Mario-Luigi like relationship in move-sets either way. Just don't see why they would pick the older and now " less relevant" characters to the series over the newer ones when they have this clue new thing called"Alt costumes".
Professor Beef
Banned
I shouldn't be surprised there's a Krystal Defense Force on GAF, but I am. :|
I really hope no one will be cut, I'm hoping instead for the return for characters like Mewtoo and maybe Roy (I don't know anything about Fire Emblem so I don't know if he's "important" enough for SSB). The only ones I don't care about is Dr. Mario and Pichu.
Anyway, I wonder who the inevitable Gen V Pokémon will be.
Anyway, I wonder who the inevitable Gen V Pokémon will be.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Why are people saying reboot?
Star Fox is just as "reboot" as Zelda games - they just released their most famous titles in the 3DS, that's all. That's not a reboot at all. It's as bad as people saying "every Smash iteration will remove the newcomer pokemon"
Star Fox is just as "reboot" as Zelda games - they just released their most famous titles in the 3DS, that's all. That's not a reboot at all. It's as bad as people saying "every Smash iteration will remove the newcomer pokemon"
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Eh, Roy and Mewtwo data was in brawl, so they were two out of five characters that got cut out due to time restricted, I assumed.
Green Mamba
Member
There's Dr. Mario data as well.
EDIT: Random thought to a potential pre-video game Nintendo character--Mach Rider would be a good choice. He originated as toy back in the 70s, and could serve as a old-school game character as well. One two punch.
Obviously Link is going to be updated to his Skyward Sword design (which will be cool to see in HD), but will they tinker with his moveset to include new things from that game or not?
In Brawl he was pretty much unchanged despite his TP update, but SS has a lot more change in items than TP did, and let's face it, Link isn't exactly a stellar fighter in SSB. Toon Link, sure, but Link never was much use.
In Brawl he was pretty much unchanged despite his TP update, but SS has a lot more change in items than TP did, and let's face it, Link isn't exactly a stellar fighter in SSB. Toon Link, sure, but Link never was much use.
They should, since Mario was updated for Brawl to include is Sunshine moveset.
Nocturnowl
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Well one of the Link's better have a move set retooling, it always felt like such a waste that Toon Link had the same basic moves as standard Link.
In fact you wouldn't even have to change the standard move set too much for Skyward Sword influence.
Standard b= Bow
up b= Skyward Strike (able to hold after the charge, can be unleashed as a projectile or as one of the two types of spin attacks)
forward b= Whip (also able to grab items from a distance)
down b= Bombs that also have rolling capabilities
Glide= Sail cloth
Grab= Dual Clawshots
So similar to before but with more options.
We totally need some beetle action. It'd be so cool if it could troll and hold people in place after shooting forward, but only for a limited time. Maybe it could even act like the whip does in your concept. I'm also thinking about how gust bellows could be used in a cool manner, but nothing's coming to mind now.
But how does he recover?
Nocturnowl
Member
He gets picked up by skyloft knights scolding him for not learning a proper up b recovery move.
Nah, I reckon they'll go with whatever artstyle Zelda Wii U has. That way they can pretty much copy/paste the assets like they did with Brawl/TP, instead of building them from scratch. Probably same with Mario, it'd be smart of them to shave down dev time/costs a little bit by sharing assets, especially considering how expensive HD is gonna be for Nintendo.
Nocturnowl
Member
I'm thinking that your really just want a Pumpkin Hill stage.
Nocturnowl
Member
Deep down everyone wants the song
Jorok Goldblade
Member
Skyward Strike would probably be a property added to his smash attack.
The OoT worship seems to come from the fact that the first two Smash games came between OoT and WW. With Link, at least, he was based around items that were available in the majority of his games. Ganondorf was based on attacks from a completely different character. Zelda was the most egregious offender, but at that point OoT was the only game where she was developed enough to draw a moveset from.
As for potentially cut characters, from Melee > Brawl, we lost:
Dr. Mario
Roy
Pichu
Mewtwo
3 were clones. 2 were same character duplicates, one was sacrificed in the name of having Pokemon form beyond the first generation, and one was a Fire Emblem new lord who didn't have much staying power.
I could see Sonic and Snake being cut simply for licensing reasons. Third party guest stars could be a one time deal.
The only ones I see as potentially choppable are:
Toon Link
Shiek (in favor of Impa)
Ike (In favor of another FE Lord)
Lucario (In favor of a B/W pokemon that they can build around a similar moveset)
Sonic
Snake
The OoT worship seems to come from the fact that the first two Smash games came between OoT and WW. With Link, at least, he was based around items that were available in the majority of his games. Ganondorf was based on attacks from a completely different character. Zelda was the most egregious offender, but at that point OoT was the only game where she was developed enough to draw a moveset from.
As for potentially cut characters, from Melee > Brawl, we lost:
Dr. Mario
Roy
Pichu
Mewtwo
3 were clones. 2 were same character duplicates, one was sacrificed in the name of having Pokemon form beyond the first generation, and one was a Fire Emblem new lord who didn't have much staying power.
I could see Sonic and Snake being cut simply for licensing reasons. Third party guest stars could be a one time deal.
The only ones I see as potentially choppable are:
Toon Link
Shiek (in favor of Impa)
Ike (In favor of another FE Lord)
Lucario (In favor of a B/W pokemon that they can build around a similar moveset)
Sonic
Snake
Super Smash Flash 2 convinced me that Lloyd is perfect for Smash 4 if Namco ever gets representation. His moveset practically writes itself.
Tails is more popular. Even though he sucks.
Tails is more popular. Even though he sucks.
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