Nocturnowl
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Stunk of awesomeness right? RIGHT?!
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Stunk of awesomeness right? RIGHT?!
Professor Beef
Banned
Nope. I wanted a 2D Metroid, not some weird FPS.
Sir Ilpalazzo
Member
I don't know exactly how well Metroid Prime 3 sold, but Other M bombed. I don't think Prime 3 did that poorly.
Did you play it for more than an hour. At first I thought it was stupid and then slowly I realized that I was playing Super Metroid in 3D and it was AMAZING
This list is missing Lyn, therefore it sucks and is fake too
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Ah thanks for clarifying.
ShockingAlberto
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Beef, I don't say this often, but you are literally the worst person of all time.
Nocturnowl
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Well it's a good thing there were those 2 on the GBA right? so lets all make amends and you will learn to love Prime with all of your black heart
This list is missing Lyn, therefore it sucks and is fake too
Curses, i've been rumbled! I regret missing Lyn in retrospect
My idea for Mii's Up+B is that he/she gets dragged upwards by the Wii Menu hand cursor, enlarged head and waggling limbs and all.
Nocturnowl
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Up until now I was indifferent to Mii being in smash but i'm thinking it has to happen just for this alone, limb waggling could be the damage dealer.
Professor Beef
Banned
Yes I did. A friend convinced me to try it, and I didn't have any fun at all. It doesn't help that with a few exceptions, I can't stand FPS games.
There are many people worse than me!
I'm going to have to EMBRACE THE HATE when it comes to Prime.
I also was never able to find a copy of Fusion ANYWHERE.
You are confusing Other M with Metroid Prime 3. Other M pretty much sold worse than every other modern Metroid with the exception of Prime 2 and Metroid Prime Pinball.
Prime 2 was a million seller. Did Other M even get there?
Like that guy who hasn't played Fire Emblem!
I will never forget that japan time, waiting for the dojo update...then I read "Lyn" and was totally excited jumping around happily, to finally see the yellow icon...assist trophy
/goes to sleep Professor Beef
Banned
Prime 2 reached a million? If that is the case, then Other M certainly sold worse than it.
Nocturnowl
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I'm going to have to EMBRACE THE HATE when it comes to Prime.
I also was never able to find a copy of Fusion ANYWHERE.
Make like your avatar and RISE ABOVE HATE!
Fusion was great by the way, your inability to find it was clearly because you lacked the ability to scan shelves effectively for it, a trait you could have learned from Metroid Prime.
Professor Beef
Banned
This stupid Cena avatar is because of an avatar bet! I refuse to RISE ABOVE HATE.
And Fusion looked like so much fun. I hate all of the stores around me during that time!
Is that an iPhone app?
Besides, I don't own a 3DS, and don't plan on getting one until Paper Mario and Majora's Mask and maybe one other game gets released, if that.
On the topic of Lyn, she was probably the most insignificant lord in the series through a storyline point of view. Heck, her storyline is entirely skippable in the Japanese version of FE7. Since she is seen as "tutorial character", she is the least popular of the three FE7 lords in Japan. Placing her in as an Assist Trophy in Brawl was pretty much fanservice to the Western Smash Bros. fans.
Here is an official poll done by Intelligent Systems in regards to the most popular characters in FE7:
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/n08/ae7j/k_tohyo/index.html
Here is an official poll done by Intelligent Systems in regards to the most popular characters in FE7:
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/n08/ae7j/k_tohyo/index.html
For comparison sake, here is an official poll done by Intelligent Systems for FE6:
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/n08/afej/k_tohyo/index.html
There was also a poll done in Nintendo Dream (Japan's official Nintendo magazine) in the May 6th 2005 issue in regards to the most popular character for all three of the GBA Fire Emblem games. Roy won first place in that poll too.
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/n08/afej/k_tohyo/index.html
There was also a poll done in Nintendo Dream (Japan's official Nintendo magazine) in the May 6th 2005 issue in regards to the most popular character for all three of the GBA Fire Emblem games. Roy won first place in that poll too.
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Wasn't this poll done on Nintendo's site? There are not enough readers who would randomly visit Intelligent System's website, nor have I ever seen a poll there.
It was done by either Nintendo or Intelligent Systems. Either way, its on Nintendo's official site.
Nocturnowl
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It's funny because I was the one who rustled up that horrible Cena face in the first place, therefore making me an inadvertent accomplice to your humiliation.
Erk down at 21? Nino at 1? I don't agree with this at all!
Nino? heh. And Lyn is pretty high imo.
But Eliwood and Hector are ranked higher than her, and Roy is ranked first in the poll to his own game (as well as for a poll in regards to all three of the GBA Fire Emblems).
Nocturnowl
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Out of curiosity are there any polls for the other FE games that got worldwide releases?
Also I had no idea Roy was actually that popular, I guess they would be pretty peeved by his Brawl exclusion in that case.
The only other Japanese Fire Emblem polls that I know of are a similar character poll that was done for FE8 (Sacred Stones), and a much smaller poll done for FE4 (only showed the Top 5). I will need to dig around to find the Sacred Stones poll, but here is the one for FE4 (Seisen no Keifu):
http://serenesforest.net/media/tcg/x/vote_i.PNG
Also, in regards to your second statement, yes, the Japanese Smash fanbase was very bitter about Roy's removal (as well as Mewtwo's). I actually saw more requests for those two characters than any "true" newcomer in regards to Smash 4.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
They should really improve Samus in Smash, she was gimped in Brawl.
Also make her charge shot more similar to her games, albeit less broken.
Also make her charge shot more similar to her games, albeit less broken.
Unfortunately, Samus and Link being bottom-tier characters is the norm as far as Smash Bros. goes. Samus and Link were at their best in Melee. I feel Samus was given more weaknesses so as to encourage more people to play with Zero Suit Samus.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
HOLY SHIT
Nocturnowl
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Ah, thanks for this.
This reminds me that a lot of the japan only FE games got ignored in Brawl from stickers to music, I wonder if that was as to not alienate the western fanbase or something, melee had quite a few trophies of really obscure games towards the back of the trophy lineup but Brawl kept with the more known stuff for the most part.
Oddly I didn't enjoy playing as Samus until Brawl, I don't even know why either.
Actually every Fire Emblem game that was made up until Brawl's release did receive some form of content in Brawl, with the exception of FE4 (Seisen no Keifu) and FE5 (Thracia 776). However, the trophies for Fire Emblem in Brawl. were pretty much just model rips from FE9 (Path of Radiance) and FE10 (Radiant Dawn).
Professor Beef
Banned
I want the ghost from Geist to have a trophy.
Not even an assist trophy. Just a regular ass trophy, to acknowledge that the game existed and is a unique IP that Nintendo owns.
Yeah, I know that I'm the only person who liked Geist, and I'm okay with that.
Though on the topic of western-developed, Nintendo-owned IPs that have been woefully neglected: Eternal Darkness. It at least needs a stage. Imagine the sanity effects!
Not even an assist trophy. Just a regular ass trophy, to acknowledge that the game existed and is a unique IP that Nintendo owns.
Yeah, I know that I'm the only person who liked Geist, and I'm okay with that.
Though on the topic of western-developed, Nintendo-owned IPs that have been woefully neglected: Eternal Darkness. It at least needs a stage. Imagine the sanity effects!
Nocturnowl
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Justin Timberlake
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Guys I'm not sure if anyone at Nintendo even remembers Geist exists.
Four reps from FE are fine: Marth, Roy, Ike and Lyn all have a different styles in the games, of course Roy would have to be reworked.
And also 5 pokemon reps: Trainer, Pikachu, Jigglypuff, Mewtwo and the new one they will want to promote.
In before anyone says "Mewtwo is not popular enough", at least is not a dumb choice as wanting Shy Guy/Hammer bros/Koopa Troopa to be playable.
Bring back the red shells
And also 5 pokemon reps: Trainer, Pikachu, Jigglypuff, Mewtwo and the new one they will want to promote.
In before anyone says "Mewtwo is not popular enough", at least is not a dumb choice as wanting Shy Guy/Hammer bros/Koopa Troopa to be playable.
Bring back the red shells
Not the sanity effects like that, sure. But the sillier and/or fourth wall breaking stuff would fit perfectly in Smash. Mess around with the HUD. Make everyone huge. Make a million Bob-Ombs appear and blow everyone up. Swap player controller inputs. Have the screen go black for a second then pop up the game's title screen, as if the console's been reset.
Then, after a few seconds, flash back to before the sanity effect happened.
For the stage setting itself, just set it in the mansion, then occasionally flash to a hell dimension with a giant god monster stomping around in the background.
I understand your point but I think Lyn would be a good female representative for FE since she has already been seen stateside and is in Brawl. In fact, if players started the game from the the Prologue Lyn was the first character you basically encountered, if I remember correctly :3 soo she has significance to newer FE western fans like myself. For a series that has such an amazing cast of both male and female characters it's a shame they don't rep both. Eli and Hector are awesome and I'd liek to play as them but if there was a limit I'd take Her and return Roy so both cases would be happy.
This type of thinking is foolish. There should not be more female characters just for the sake of having more female characters.
Also, to illustrate that selecting on the basis of "b00bs" is not important to Intelligent Systems, keep in mind that when Sakurai went to Intelligent Systems during Brawl's development (because he did not know who to put in as Fire Emblem's Brawl newcomer), FE10 (of which Micaiah, a female lord, is one of the two lords) was in the middle of development. Instead of Intelligent Systems's simply telling him to use Micaiah (as the purpose of an advertisement), they suggested Ike to him instead (which was a better choice since Ike was prominent in both games to the Tellius arc).
For those who do want more female characters, your best bet is with Palutena and Medusa. They are both characters that are both VERY important to their series of origin (Kid Icarus), and also Sakurai being extremely familiar with both of those characters. Some might be upset that a small series such as Kid Icarus would even get three playable characters, but if new female characters are to be added, these two would be the most appropriate since they are both actually important characters to their series (whereas female characters in many other series are usually only minor side characters).
Just look at the recently launched official Kid Icarus Uprising website and see what two other characters are in the character sections besides Pit:
http://kidicarus.nintendo.com/uprising/explore-the-game/characters.html
There are also going to be two anime OVAs centered around Palutena, and one anime OVA centered around Medusa.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
I bet we will get three Kid Icarus characters. (Included Pit) If we understand how Sakurai work.
My choice for Lyn really has nothing to do with boobs. I'm a fan of the series and I don't see her as that. The FE series has many unique characters and I think she would be a great, unique, familiar choice. It's more of the fact that she has relevance to FE fans who started and enjoyed the series from FE7 onward. I agree that Ike was a better choice. She's also a different and unique type of Lord like Ike and wields Mani Katti which has more possiblitites for a moveset. There's also the added fact she can wield a bow which can even add more to her dynamic. I would love more female characters and I'll admit that but they have to be more than just a pair of tits, imo. I think Lyn has more potential than that.
And I kinda already believe Palutena and Medusa will be in. They can practically use the same model and make them slight clones. It's an easy choice.
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