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[beast786]

It's beast bro. That's all you need to know.

Yes, I am the reason for his sub-par career QBR.

 

[cajunator]

I can't refrain from eating murder.
It's against my religion.
Plus I recently discovered the joys of Greek/Lebanese food.

 

[Bowser]

CINCINNATI – They had become addicted to the old way around here. From Chad Johnson or Ochocinco or whoever he was each week to the reclamation of knuckleheads, the old way held the Cincinnati Bengals back, always teasing with false hope. The talent was just good enough to overlook the headaches and there forever lingered the promise of the big winning season that never came.

So when Carson Palmer said he’d rather retire than remain the team’s quarterback, the news hit hard. It would take time to see this really was a gift.

“At what point did Carson quit?” Bengals coach Marvin Lewis asks, repeating a similar question. “At some point last year he decided he didn’t want to be here. This didn’t happen at the end of the season. There was a point earlier on when he said, ‘This isn’t the place for me.’ ”

Palmer had already given up on them. And if the quarterback who held all the personalities together no longer cared, what was the point in clinging to the old way? For Lewis there was no debate. “We’re not talking people into playing,” he says. And as soon as Palmer’s demand that the team trade or release him became public, the coach was done with everything that had been a part of the old: the drama, the shows, the demands of a few wanting the team to be about them.

As one team official says: “We got rid of all our [expletive].”

And as a result, they found something better.

“I was getting an opportunity a lot of coaches don’t get to … and that is a chance to start over at the same place,” Lewis says.

Much more at the link: http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=lc-carpenter_andy_dalton_bengals_revival_102611

 

[Milchjon]

Vegetarianism is something that has always made sense to meet from an ethical standpoint; my eating habits and worldview created a lot of cognitive dissonance.

I'm with you on that. But I sure as hell couldn't go through with it.

 

[yankeehater]

Well I've been trying to lose weight for a while, so it helped. Plus (not to derail the thread too much) in rehab the food was shit - early on we were actually served completely raw pork (cook forgot to put it in the oven, or something?), so I just ate salad for three meals a day. When I was gaining momentum, I just decided to stick with it.

Vegetarianism is something that has always made sense to meet from an ethical standpoint; my eating habits and worldview created a lot of cognitive dissonance. But you won't catch me being a self-righteous vegan anytime soon.

That is awesome man, I hope it works out for you.

 

[chuckddd]

Recent 911 call: T.O. attempted suicide

Welp.

But he has 25 millions reasons to live!

 

[beast786]

Recent 911 call: T.O. attempted suicide

Welp.

That is pretty sad. It almost feels like he is bi-polar. I wish all ends well for him and his family.

 

[vas_a_morir]

Much more at the link: http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=lc-carpenter_andy_dalton_bengals_revival_102611

I don't get your picture. What is the quote I'm supposed to hear in my head? "Cold blooded?" "SLAP?"

Also, that would be a total bummer if TO killed himself. I mean, shit.

 

[RyanDG]

You know... As much as what I hate about Tebow's fundamentals right now (mostly the fact that he never seems to set his feet to throw)... I think the one thing that has done him more of a disservice now then anything else was when they've attempted to go in and 'fix' his throwing motion. I know the whole theory about how he was giving players about half a second longer to get to him when he throws, but honestly speaking, I don't remember his passes looking as bad as they do now when he was in Florida. Was I just imagining things or wasn't his spiral tighter and had a little more oomph behind the throws in college?

 

[Tamanon]

You know... As much as what I hate about Tebow's fundamentals right now (mostly the fact that he never seems to set his feet to throw)... I think the one thing that has done him more of a disservice now then anything else was when they've attempted to go in and 'fix' his throwing motion. I know the whole theory about how he was giving players about half a second longer to get to him when he throws, but honestly speaking, I don't remember his passes looking as bad as they do now when he was in Florida. Was I just imagining things or wasn't his spiral tighter and had a little more oomph behind the throws in college?

It was a lot better with his old motion. He's still not got a good throwing motion, so should just see how he does with the old way, he's good about knowing when he has time to throw.

 

[ViperVisor]

Jimmy Clausen was great in college.

When you have plenty of time, space and lanes to hop stride and then throw nice passes tend to happen. Tebow doesn't know what the fuck he is doing. Like a Bumble Ball he is a spaz in the pocket and is rarely has a good foundation to release from.

 

[Trasher]

Gonzo makes fun of our D.

Sound FX: Week 7

 

[Bowser]

I don't get your picture. What is the quote I'm supposed to hear in my head? "Cold blooded?" "SLAP?"

Also, that would be a total bummer if TO killed himself. I mean, shit.

"Cold blooded" with regards to "As one team official says: “We got rid of all our [expletive]."

 

[Malleymal]

If you want to gain 30 pounds, then by all means visit Louisiana. Then you can dance the weight back off again after the meals to Zydeco music.

seriously.... I was just in New Orleans for business and those 6 days were the most gluttonous I have ever been in life. The Po Boys , the alcohol and everything else basically had me hurting by the time I had to leave. Had a grew time though. Also went to this place called Mothers.. real good

 

[Fisticuffs]

Jimmy Clausen was great in college.

I disagree. He wasn't great.

 

[vas_a_morir]

"Cold blooded" with regards to "As one team official says: “We got rid of all our [expletive]."

That's what I thought. Yeah, that was cold blooded. Every time Carson would throw the ball in the air, the people in the crowd would go "OH NO!!!!" it almost became a joke at Paul Brown Stadium. We clowned the shit outta the Raider's organization. I watched that game with those ugly interceptions, and I said "Oh man, that used to be MY problem." Now, I'm Fils-Aime'n it up over here.

 

[Fisticuffs]

That's what I thought. Yeah, that was cold blooded. Every time Carson would throw the ball in the air, the people in the crowd would go "OH NO!!!!" it almost became a joke at Paul Brown Stadium. We clowned the shit outta the Raider's organization. I watched that game with those ugly interceptions, and I said "Oh man, that used to be MY problem." Now, I'm Fils-Aime'n it up over here.

Andy Dalton ftw!

 

[yankeehater]

AJ Green ftw!

Fixed.

 

[ChanHuk]

That's what I thought. Yeah, that was cold blooded. Every time Carson would throw the ball in the air, the people in the crowd would go "OH NO!!!!" it almost became a joke at Paul Brown Stadium. We clowned the shit outta the Raider's organization. I watched that game with those ugly interceptions, and I said "Oh man, that used to be MY problem." Now, I'm Fils-Aime'n it up over here.

Only one of those INTs were his fault. Moore tipping a pass caused an INT and Murphy completely giving up on a route because he's scared of getting hit caused the other.

 

[Fisticuffs]

Fixed.

you should have watched the mic'd up thing they had with Dalton and Green. Dalton was holding Green's hand the entire game.

 

[Slo]

Great underground music scene, AFAIK. Ask Slo. Also, at least Minneapolis hosts other professional sports teams - they suck, too, but it's a better distraction than attempting suicide via gluttony.

I don't spend all that much time in Minneapolis, but the hip area of the city is called Dinkytown. Supposedly that's where all the cool-but-not-quite-cool-enough-to-flee-the-state kids hang out. Honestly though cajonater, you strike me as more of an IHOP kind of guy, in which case I'm sure the city will accommodate. If you call (and pay) in advance, I'm sure they'll even add Mickey Mouse ears to your chocolate chip short stack.

bon appetit!

 

[Fisticuffs]

I don't spend all that much time in Minneapolis, but the hip area of the city is called Dinkytown. Supposedly that's where all the cool-but-not-quite-cool-enough-to-flee-the-state kids hang out. Honestly though cajonater, you strike me as more of an IHOP kind of guy, in which case I'm sure the city will accommodate. If you call (and pay) in advance, I'm sure they'll even add Mickey Mouse ears to your chocolate chip short stack.

bon appetit!

I love me some IHOP! Rooty tooty fresh n fruity!

 

[yankeehater]

you should have watched the mic'd up thing they had with Dalton and Green. Dalton was holding Green's hand the entire game.

I wish I had seen it. Green has been amazing though, I have seen him going up and snatching balls while being double teamed. I do think they will both be good for many years to come.

 

[Milchjon]

I wish I had seen it. Green has been amazing though, I have seen him going up and snatching balls while being double teamed. I do think they will both be good for many years to come.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-films-sound-efx/09000d5d823478f5/Sound-FX-Green-and-Dalton

 

[cajunator]

seriously.... I was just in New Orleans for business and those 6 days were the most gluttonous I have ever been in life. The Po Boys , the alcohol and everything else basically had me hurting by the time I had to leave. Had a grew time though. Also went to this place called Mothers.. real good

Head two hours west and you'll find equally great food. All of South Louisiana is a food haven. It's ridiculous.

 

[Seda]

Bears claimed rookie LB Jabara Williams (the LB depth was terrible so this can't hurt).

Also, a windycitygridiron.com source is saying that Chris Harris is expected to sign with the Rams.

 

[yankeehater]

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-films-sound-efx/09000d5d823478f5/Sound-FX-Green-and-Dalton

That was awesome, thanks for the link. LOL at Green asking what the play was that Dalton called, and him telling him to just go vertical.

 

[Bowser]

lol, someone on a Panthers board brought up Nolan Nawrocki's pre-draft assesment of Cam Newton and talked about how the posters should e-mail the editors and ask for a written apology to be posted on the site.

Negatives: Played in a simplified, run-first, dive-option read offense with very basic high-low reads. Worked exclusively out of the gun and was very quick to run at the first flash of coverage. Limited field vision — does not process the passing game. Inconsistent throwing mechanics with a flick delivery — generates all of his power from his upper-body strength and too often arms the ball. Streaky passer with spotty accuracy. Makes his receivers work hard and throws into coverage. Does not spin a tight spiral. Very disingenuous — has a fake smile, comes off as very scripted and has a selfish, me-first makeup. Always knows where the cameras are and plays to them. Has an enormous ego with a sense of entitlement that continually invites trouble and makes him believe he is above the law — does not command respect from teammates and always will struggle to win a locker room. Only a one-year producer. Lacks accountability, focus and trustworthiness — is not punctual, seeks shortcuts and sets a bad example. Immature and has had issues with authority. Not dependable.

Summary: An extremely talented, dual-threat QB who carried Auburn to a national title, Newton has the arm and athletic talent desired in a rollout, play-action, bootleg vertical passing game and would fit ideally into an offense such as that of the Redskins or Raiders. However, he always will test the rules, be difficult to manage and lacks the intangibles to win the trust of a locker room. Will require a very strong-willed, demanding coach to live up to his potential and avoid the trappings of fame and fortune, but even the greatest taskmaster will not be able to keep away the drama that is still swirling from a stained Heisman Trophy and littered recruiting trail that Newton left in the SEC. Can provide an initial spark, but will quickly be dissected and contained by NFL defensive coordinators, struggle to sustain success and will not prove worthy of an early investment. An overhyped, high-risk, high-reward selection with a glaring bust factor, Newton is sure to be drafted more highly than he should and could foreclose a risk-taking GM's job and taint a locker room.

http://www.profootballweekly.com/2011/03/29/cam-newton-scouting-report

 

[cajunator]

I don't spend all that much time in Minneapolis, but the hip area of the city is called Dinkytown. Supposedly that's where all the cool-but-not-quite-cool-enough-to-flee-the-state kids hang out. Honestly though cajonater, you strike me as more of an IHOP kind of guy, in which case I'm sure the city will accommodate. If you call (and pay) in advance, I'm sure they'll even add Mickey Mouse ears to your chocolate chip short stack.

bon appetit!

IHOP? why the hell would I eat at IHOP? I have much better choices in every possible way.

 

[Narag]

"How you evaluate (Caldwell) is what you do with what he has," Polian said. "You can't hold him responsible for injuries. You can't hold him responsible for an unforeseen surgery (to Manning) that no one anticipated would happen. The things that he can control, I think he's done a terrific job of, given where we are from a standpoint of personnel."

http://www.wbaltv.com/r/29603969/detail.html

 

[Alligatorjandro]

Is it Sunday yet?

 

[yankeehater]

http://www.wbaltv.com/r/29603969/detail.html

That has to be a joke, or maybe he is doing Caldwell a solid so that when he fires him he can get another job.

 

[cajunator]

Is it Sunday yet?

No. why else do you think we are discussing food?

 

[squicken]

That has to be a joke, or maybe he is doing Caldwell a solid so that when he fires him he can get another job.

Or maybe he knows that no matter how hard the players there say they are trying, they cannot overcome Caldwell's stupidity.

 

[cajunator]

Would Payton have outsmarted Tony Dungy in the SB? I still think he would have but perhaps not so easily.

 

[TheKaeptain]

Spi just want to say I hate Skip Bayless.

 

[yankeehater]

Would Payton have outsmarted Tony Dungy in the SB? I still think he would have but perhaps not so easily.

I dont think Dungy is much better. The players really liked him and played hard for him, but he never struck me as a great X's and O's guy.

 

[squicken]

He was a pretty good D coordinator in PIT and MIN, and successfully transitioned that defense to Tampa and Indy. Those Tampa teams had some great defenses.

I guess he had Kiffin there with him, but either way he was a great leader. Jimmy Johnson, Mike Tomlin, and Bill Parcells weren't great Xs and Os guys, but they got their guys to play hard and play well.

 

[Slo]

IHOP? why the hell would I eat at IHOP? I have much better choices in every possible way.

You've also got the ability to completely miss it when somebody is busting your balls.

 

[Plinko]

I dont think Dungy is much better. The players really liked him and played hard for him, but he never struck me as a great X's and O's guy.

He was a good X's and O's guy. Since he left the drop in quality has been staggering.

 

[cajunator]

You've also got the ability to completely miss it when somebody is busting your balls.

Sorry. Food is serious fucking business here.
Everything else is fun and games though.

 

[Rorschach]

You've also got the ability to completely miss it when somebody is busting your balls.

He's completely oblivious, but not the worst at it in this thread.

 

[The Frankman]

Question: Which 3 of these guys would you start?

Reggie Wayne @ Tennessee
Percy Harvin @ Carolina
Michael Jenkins @ Carolina
Greg Little @ San Francisco
Damian Williams vs. Indianapolis

Leaning towards Harvin-Wayne-Little, but:

Harvin's ribs worry me. He'll start but will he finish + limited snap count?
Jenkins seems to have a connection with Ponder so far.
Massaquoi and Watson are out for the SF game, so you'd think Little is in a great situation.
Wayne and Williams intrigue me because you'd think that Indy-Tennessee game will be high-scoring.

 

[exarkun]

Question: Which 3 of these guys would you start?

Reggie Wayne @ Tennessee
Percy Harvin @ Carolina
Michael Jenkins @ Carolina
Greg Little @ San Francisco
Damian Williams vs. Indianapolis

Leaning towards Harvin-Wayne-Little, but:

Harvin's ribs worry me. He'll start but will he finish + limited snap count?
Jenkins seems to have a connection with Ponder so far.
Massaquoi and Watson are out for the SF game, so you'd think Little is in a great situation.
Wayne and Williams intrigue me because you'd think that Indy-Tennessee game will be high-scoring.

I don't even know who the fuck Williams is, so I would go with Harvins-Jenkins-Little. Wayne sucked against the Texans. Wayne is not the same player, not as much separating and they have a rookie QB who is looking almost exclusively at their speed guy.

 

[Godslay]

EDIT: also the fact that they finally started to try and jumpstart Tebow by putting him in a hurry up helped, TheFightingFish. Dunno what took John Fox so long, it's almost like he doesn't want Tebow to succeed...

I think that's a very fair viewpoint. He's still so raw and isn't even an QB yet, let's not crown him. Heck, if you think about it Cam Newton isn't even crowned yet.

Denver's upcoming schedule is interesting though.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/den/denver-broncos

I can't remember who, maybe Champ or a local radio guy, stated that you could really tell the difference between Tebow when he had to hurry up. Less time to think and more reaction. I believe that things will be a bit different this week in terms of how the offense functions. It might be because McGahee is gone (at the moment) potentially forcing Tebow to throw or Moreno to step up. Really this week is more based upon how Moreno performs than Tebow.

Either way we do have an interesting schedule going forward. At this point all I want is wins or even close games between divisional opponents. Everything else is icing on the cake. Plus a local radio guy will (who sort of hates/is skeptical of Tebow), get a Tebow tattoo at 8-8, a Tebow tramp stamp at 10-6, or a Tebow themed Mike Tyson tribal tattoo if the Broncos win the Superbowl. If you can't root for that I don't know what you can root for.

 

[vas_a_morir]

Mic'd up Dalton and Green:

Dalton's got swag like a leader.

 

[The Frankman]

Yeah it was Damian Williams, guy Tennessee really likes and is hoping he pushes Washington as the #1 WR.

http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/5702/damian-williams

thanks for the input!

 

[cajunator]

If Mark Ingram doesn't play this week for the Saints, they just got back CHris Ivory from PUP and that sonofabitch is a roadgrader. I hope to see him given some touches in this game.

Also, FMT will be pleased to know that De La Puente is the starting center and he is doing well. I'm pretty high on the kid. Saints have run much better with him at center than with Kreutz.

 

[Fox318]

Mic'd up Dalton and Green:

Dalton's got swag like a leader.

Dalton is the best Bengal QB since Boomer.

 

[LevelNth]

Could use some fantasy assistance fellas, on a few issues, as this will be a tough week for my team (Rodgers bye week, he totally carries my team):

QB pickup, who do you guys like better, Fitzpatrick v. WAS or Hasselbeck v. IND? I'm leaning towards Fitz. Hasselbeck is vs. IND, but he's got no one to throw to...

My RB's are Best, Hillis and Ingram (ouch, I know), so I have to choose between Jackie Battle, Bernard Scott and Roy Helu. Leaning towards Battle and Scott. Helu to me is a risk, could be big, could be nothing. The other two seem safer.

WR's are Megatron, Brandon Marshall, Crabtree and Steve Breaston. Leaning towards Mega, Marshall and Breaston. Mega and Marshall are definites. I'm nervous of Crabtree against Joe Haden...

TE's are Vernon Davis and Fred Davis. Leaning towards Vernon, as Cleveland has been horrible covering TE's, second worst in the league. Fred is hot tho...