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NFL Offseason Thread 2015 |OT| All of our teams suck!

chuckddd

Fear of a GAF Planet
Where's dk? We need to discuss these quotes:

Q. Are you a 3-4 guy?

A. I would consider myself a whatever-it-takes-to-win guy. If it’s a 3-4, that’s fine, if that fits your players. I think you have to be able to fit your defense around the players you have. With what offenses are doing nowadays in the National Football League, they’re playing a lot of three wide receivers and a tight end and a running back, for the most part. In those situations, we’re going to be in kind of a 4-3 anyway, but we’re still going to be able to run the 3-4 also. It gives you a little bit more versatility, I think.

Q. So your feelings for the 3-4 are based more on what offenses around the league are doing now. Is that correct?

A. Yes. I also think there’s still a place for the 3-4, and the reason I think there’s still a place for it is because you also have to be versatile as a defense as offenses are trying to be versatile. So we don’t want to blow it up and say we won’t run the 3-4 anymore. We will run the 3-4, but we will run some 4-3 also, in our sub-package.
 

MRSA

Banned
You guys think John Fox will actively pursue another HC gig or will he say fuck you Broncos and take a 2 year paid vacation?
 

Tom Penny

Member
Where's dk? We need to discuss these quotes:

Speaking of 3-4 and 4-3. Belichick specifically went 3-4 for many years because almost everyone was running 4-3 and it was easier to get players for 3-4 after everyone drafted and took players that fit 4-3 better in free agency. Dude is a kook..or a genius.
 

Duxxy3

Member
Going from Harbaugh to Gase has to be a record for largest coaching downgrade in NFL history. He's not even the real offensive coordinator of his own team. Peyton is.
 

Duxxy3

Member
Speaking of 3-4 and 4-3. Belichick specifically went 3-4 for many years because almost everyone was running 4-3 and it was easier to get players for 3-4 after everyone drafted and took players that fit 4-3 better in free agency. Dude is a kook..or a genius.

Our base defense next year is going to be 3 down linemen, 1 linebacker and 7 DB's.
 

Farooq

Banned
Speaking of 3-4 and 4-3. Belichick specifically went 3-4 for many years because almost everyone was running 4-3 and it was easier to get players for 3-4 after everyone drafted and took players that fit 4-3 better in free agency. Dude is a kook..or a genius.

That was Parcells' reasoning. Belichick didn't do shit but steal Parcells' philosophy.
 

Kave_Man

come in my shame circle
Mech I am releasing your shackles. If it's true Rodgers won the MVP you have my blessing to go wild in here for a few days.
 

LJ11

Member
Speaking of 3-4 and 4-3. Belichick specifically went 3-4 for many years because almost everyone was running 4-3 and it was easier to get players for 3-4 after everyone drafted and took players that fit 4-3 better in free agency. Dude is a kook..or a genius.

Did he ever come out and say that? I mean he's been 3-4 since the 80s and a bunch teams ran that style back then. Honestly, 3-4 vs 4-3 don't matter, you reduce an end in a 3-4 and you have a 4-3. No one stays in the same alignment week in week out, you have 2 gap 3-4 and 1 gap 3-4s, you have one gap 4-3 and 4-3 that also two gap. I'm not really sure what a 4-3 player is vs a 3-4 player. These are antiquated notions if you ask me. To me, Bill has been multiple, he does what it takes to win.
 

Farooq

Banned
I don't believe Parcell's rationale to go 3-4 revolved around the salary cap and roster building.

Not salary cap per say, but the fact that there are only so many athletic lineman and LBs to go around. I think it was termed his "Planet Theory".

Edit: I was thinking of something else. Fuck it, I think I am wrong.
 

cdyhybrid

Member
NEW ORLEANS » California authorities have been ordered to turn former NFL All-Pro safety Darren Sharper over to U.S. Marshals in New Orleans, where he faces state and federal charges that he drugged women so he could sexually assault them.

Sharper is jailed in California on charges that he drugged and raped two women there. He also faces charges in Arizona and is under investigation in other states. State and federal charges in Louisiana were filed in December.

AP
 

LJ11

Member
LJ didn't chan suck?

I really don't want him as an oc.

Bills fans generally liked him, myself included, on the offensive side of the ball. His run game design is very good. He gets a lot out of his talent for the most part. As an OC, I wouldn't have much of an issue with him. Threw the ball short to protect OL, or hide them rather. Interesting choice for sure, I'm looking forward to seeing which direction he goes with the Jets. Was really a spread offense with the Bills.
 
Ian Rapoport @RapSheet · 17m 17 minutes ago

#Raiders OC Greg Olson set to fly to Jax today to interview for their OC job, source said. Impressed this season with Derek Carr development




lololololololoololo

Terrance Knighton @MrKnighton2u · 24m 24 minutes ago

If the report is true. The Raiders are getting a great damn coach. He will revive that locker room and organization.


Pot Roast on JDR. Would be awesome if he follows JDR to Oakland. Him and Jelly in the middle would wreck shit.
 
Doesn't sound that different from Lebeau to be honest - 34 base, 43 pack. I'm hoping Butler is serious about playing to his personnel though. Steelers D was still operating as if Troy was 27 last year. Get the athletes on the field.

Agreed. And that means 3/4 of our draft picks this year need to be defensive athletes.
 

chuckddd

Fear of a GAF Planet
Doesn't sound that different from Lebeau to be honest - 34 base, 43 pack. I'm hoping Butler is serious about playing to his personnel though. Steelers D was still operating as if Troy was 27 last year. Get the athletes on the field.

They played a lot of 2-4 nickle, I guess if you count the olb's as de's and Troy as a lb, it would be a 4-3. I don't remember the Steelers really playing any true 4-3 this year, other than being in prevent cover 2 or goal line. I think that Butler may be hinting at using a 4-3 rather than a nickel against 11 personnel. Possibly use Shazier's speed at Troy's old "lb" spot. Good luck to teams trying to run the ball against Heyward, Tuitt, McClendon and McCullers. No depth there, though, thanks to teams picking the practice squad clean.
 
Giants...

Jordan Raanan ‏@JordanRaanan 5m5 minutes ago
The #Giants are adding Tim Walton (former #Rams DC) as their CBs/secondary coach, per source. Replaces Peter Giunta

John Mara coming up on WFAN. Reese is an hour from now and Coughlin is up an hour after that with Francessa.
 

Bacon

Member
Giants...



John Mara coming up on WFAN. Reese is an hour from now and Coughlin is up an hour after that with Francessa.

I love how Francesa doesn't even have the self control to not interrupt John freaking Mara of all people. Dude loves his own voice.
 
I love how Francesa doesn't even have the self control to not interrupt John freaking Mara of all people. Dude loves his own voice.
hahah yeah.

Love the comment from Mara on addressing the offensive line. Rattled off the needs of the team and he's spot on. Hope that materializes in the draft.
 
None too surprising:

Chris Mortensen ‏@mortreport 40s40 seconds ago
Heisman Trophy winner Marcus Mariota will announce today that he is indeed turning pro, eligible for 2015 NFL draft, per sources.

Mara mentioned that there will be a discussion when the competition committee to institute a replay/review for pass interference calls. Mara said he was opposed to it in the past but with the recent playoffs, his view is evolving on that.
 
They played a lot of 2-4 nickle, I guess if you count the olb's as de's and Troy as a lb, it would be a 4-3. I don't remember the Steelers really playing any true 4-3 this year, other than being in prevent cover 2 or goal line. I think that Butler may be hinting at using a 4-3 rather than a nickel against 11 personnel. Possibly use Shazier's speed at Troy's old "lb" spot. Good luck to teams trying to run the ball against Heyward, Tuitt, McClendon and McCullers. No depth there, though, thanks to teams picking the practice squad clean.

I think that's being a bit optimistic, getting those 4 heavies on the field at once. McCullers specifically. He doesn't have the awareness to be a pass rush specialist. Not yet anyway.

If Butler actually does commit I would expect the 4th guy to be Worilds (or a FA). Worilds has experience with his hand in the dirt as it is, plus it gives them more versatility.
 

jbug617

Banned
Good news RBH

From Schefter

With Todd Bowles landing in NY, Seahawks DC Dan Quinn is now the favorite to land the Falcons HC job, per league sources. Atlanta is interviewing Lions defensive coordinator Teryl Austin today, and he will have his chance to impress the Falcons, and try to change their minds and anything is possible. But sources close to and familiar with the Falcons’ situation believe Atlanta is willing to wait for Quinn, and Quinn is willing to wait for them, and he is the leading contender at this time to become the Falcons’ next head coach. Quinn and the Falcons already have met once, and will be allowed to do so next week, whether or not the Seahawks win or lose Sunday’s conference championship game. There is a window next week for teams that already interviewed candidates to interview them again. Under the rules, the Broncos cannot interview Quinn, but the Falcons and Bears would be able to do so. Maybe the biggest advantage and lure that Atlanta has is its quarterback, Matt Ryan. His presence has made the Falcons’ job arguably the most appealing one available.
 

chuckddd

Fear of a GAF Planet
I think that's being a bit optimistic, getting those 4 heavies on the field at once. McCullers specifically. He doesn't have the awareness to be a pass rush specialist. Not yet anyway.

If Butler actually does commit I would expect the 4th guy to be Worilds (or a FA). Worilds has experience with his hand in the dirt as it is, plus it gives them more versatility.

McCullers will just pick up the guard and throw him at the quarterback. Specialist? No. Special? Yes.

What the Steelers do in fa and the draft should be pretty telling.
 

MRSA

Banned
Pot Roast and Jelly got me feeling all gitty. Raiders have the cap space to do so, cut Woodley, Antonio Smith, Schoob, and MJD. That's like another 20 million freed up.
 
Pot Roast and Jelly got me feeling all gitty. Raiders have the cap space to do so, cut Woodley, Antonio Smith, Schoob, and MJD. That's like another 20 million freed up.



I'd probably keep Smith. He's good on pass rushing downs and solid vet in the locker room. Pretty cheap contract too.
 

MRSA

Banned
Actually I'd poach Julius Thomas and Pot Roast from the Broncos FA list. Thomas is from California and probably wants back in California.
 
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