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Calm Killer

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Still cant believe we lost that one.

I was at that game. It was a great game, and the Steelers won. Which made it even better.

So this is my first post in this thread. Any specific rules to follow? Anything I should know? I am a die hard Steelers fan and I am a season ticket holder for WVU football. If that helps out at all.
 

squicken

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I was at that game. It was a great game, and the Steelers won. Which made it even better.

So this is my first post in this thread. Any specific rules to follow? Anything I should know? I am a die hard Steelers fan and I am a season ticket holder for WVU football. If that helps out at all.

haha no rules other than the general forum stuff. you aren't a patriots fans so you are off to a good start! welcome

edt: At 22, Rams take DeAndre Hopkins. Probably a little early. Could end up being Keenan Allen. Might also be a good trade down spot for teams wanting a QB, or a team wanting to get ahead of MIN and take a WR. But Hopkins it is, and I really like the player. Not as fast as his Combine speed but a super-competitive player who is most often compared to Anquan Boldin. Faster but not as strong, he is extremely good at catching contested balls and using his body to create last moment separation
 

Draxal

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I was at that game. It was a great game, and the Steelers won. Which made it even better.

So this is my first post in this thread. Any specific rules to follow? Anything I should know? I am a die hard Steelers fan and I am a season ticket holder for WVU football. If that helps out at all.

How many couches have you burned? What do your sources say about conference alignement?

Srsly, who do you think's going to be the better pro, Smith or Austin?
 

eznark

Banned
haha no rules other than the general forum stuff. you aren't a patriots fans so you are off to a good start! welcome

edt: At 22, Rams take DeAndre Hopkins. Probably a little early. Could end up being Keenan Allen. Might also be a good trade down spot for teams wanting a QB, or a team wanting to get ahead of MIN and take a WR. But Hopkins it is, and I really like the player. Not as fast as his Combine speed but a super-competitive player who is most often compared to Anquan Boldin. Faster but not as strong, he is extremely good at catching contested balls and using his body to create last moment separation

eznark seal of approval. Lead pipe lock to be the most productive receiver in this draft class. I have a giant boner for Nuk!
 
NFL-Gaf Mock Draft 2013

1. Chiefs - Luke Joeckel - T - Texas A&M

That said, right now I expect the pick to be Luke Joeckel. While the Chiefs are also going to work out Lane Johnson and Eric Fisher, Joeckel seems to be the consensus best LT in the draft. He would immediately start at right tackle, and should slide over to LT to fill Albert's spot in 2014. Are these mock draft entries usually full of venom and vitriol towards the expected pick? Because that's all I have left.

2. Jaguars - Eric Fisher - T - Central Michigan

Jags #2 Pick!

Jags have a LOT of holes to fill, and the top 10 is a real crapshoot with who will be the most impactful.

They plan on building the offense around a renewed MJD, preparing to give him a big contract to get him to spend the rest of his career here. That means they need to shore up their offensive line. Since Joeckel is taken, they will pick Eric Fisher from Central Michigan. His specialty is pushing people back, and that's all MJD needs to really use his skills. Defensive Tackles are too hit-and-miss, but O-line are generally stable.

3. Raiders - ChanHuk, Mackenzie 92 - Star Lotulelei - DT - University of Utah

ChanHuk said:
With the #3 selection in the 2013 Mock NFLGAF draft the glorious Oakland Raiders select; Star Lotulelei, defensive tackle University of Utah.

The Raiders are in complete rebuild mode, no more of this nonsense "reload" of the Al Davis era of just overpaying washed up vets. Only 4 starters return from last year's dismal defense, the Raiders need to address their run defense which has been pathetic the last decade.

Star Lotulelei is similar to a player we should've picked in the 2006 NFL draft in Haloti Ngata. Star is not as dominant as Ngata but still commands double team blocks against the run. Star isn't going to get you flashy sack numbers but he'll allow your LBs to make plays. Teams are built in the trenches, Raiders now possess two stout young defensive linemen in Star and Lamar Houston. With the addition of Vance Walker through FA, the Raiders now possess a formidable run stopping defensive line.

4. Eagles - Yankeehater, JABEE - Dee Miliner - CB - University of Alabama

The Eagles have already taken big strides to improve their biggest weakness last year. The Eagles have a ton of holes to fill, but Dee is the best player available that fills one of those holes. Even though Dee doesn't posses the return skills of a Deion Sanders, he is unquestionably the best CB in this draft.

5. Lions - WedgeX, Goldlion054, Kastrioti, Plinko - Ziggy Ansah - DE - BYU

Worst case scenario here, but the lions will be selecting DE Ziggy Anash from BYU here. With the loss of Backus, Detroit would have loved to fill the role with a franchise player like Fischer, but not the case here. The coaching staff reportedly loves Anash after the senior bowl and he'll fit into Mayhew's bpa strategy. He may be raw, but his ceiling is very high and can hopefully become a JPP type player with those skills. Again, worst case scenario, but it'll have to do

6. Browns - BlackGhost, Wes, theBatman - Dion Jordan -DE/OLB - Oregon

Futurevoid said:
With the browns switch to the 3-4, they pick up the best OLB prospect in the draft. Jordan still has to prove he can bring an arsenal of pass rush moves to the table but he has proven himself to be proficient when dropping in coverage, offers excellent size/length and speed and fits the mold as the type of physical specimen that can develop into a top caliber pass rusher in this draft.

7. Cardinals - Squall ASF (Futurevoid standing in as Squall was not around) - Geno Smith - QB - West Virginia

Futurevoid said:
I struggled with this pick and it really shouldn't have been. Chance Warmack makes the most sense. You can go on all about a guard not having been picked Top 10 in however many years but this is 10+ year starter for a team that has about an awful an offensive line as there is. However, I'm not making the pick. I'm supposed to try and guess at what the Cardinals will do and frankly I can't escape the desperation a team with Drew Stanton as their opening day starter has to contend with.

Lane Johnson was also a possibility here but I'm going with my gut here. Geno Smith doesn't get past the Bills and I don't think the Bills will have the chance to draft him. Arians go throw out all of the smokescreens he likes about not being impressed with any of the QB class. It's a reach and the Cardinals are the team to do it.

8. Bills - LJ11 - Tavon Austin - WR - West Virginia

GAF Mock draft has always been about choosing the player you think your team is going to take. Pretty sure the Bills will take a QB, but I'm not sure a QB is worth the 8th overall pick. They desperately needed an offensive tackle last season, but didn't get desperate and reach. I think they're going to do it the same way this year. Nassib and Wilson are the only two possibilities but with 6 picks, next to no moves in FA, and a ton of holes you would be wise to trade back regardless off return and then make a play for a QB. You don't need a haul either. This is the Bills though, so....

They've gone D heavy the last few years, need some offense, and I'm using the CJ rational to make this pick.

Tavon Austin, find me a better more explosive offensive threat in this draft? You can't.

9. Jets - Fox318 (Futurevoid standing in) - Shariff Floyd - DT - Florida

Futurevoid said:
WR and OL makes sense here for the Jets but Rex likes his defense and considering they've let go of a number of high priced vets to clear cap space, I think they can't let a prospect like Floyd continue to drop. He'll play the 5 tech in the 3-4 and should be a force alongside Wilkerson. I was thinking Mingo here as well but Floyd is just a better prospect to me with this high of a pick.

10. Titans - Fidelis Hodie (Futurevoid standing in) - Chance Warmack - G - Alabama

As a former offensive lineman who was drafted in the top-10, Titans head coach Mike Munchak will undoubtedly be impressed with Warmack. And even after spending big money on Andy Levitre in free agency, the Titans could use another guard opposite him.

11. Chargers - Nightz - Lane Johnson - T - Oklahoma

Nightz said:
The Chargers would like to get the Philip Rivers of old back and know that fixing the offensive line is the first step in doing so. With 4 out of 5 starters on the line still unknown at this point, Lane Johnson is the pick. Johnson has shown lots of potential and will step in to the starting left tackle role. He will be relied on heavily to protect the blind side and keep Rivers upright.

12. Dolphins - The_Darkest_Red - Xavier Rhodes - CB - FSU

With the WR need being considerably addressed in free agency, the biggest needs for the Dolphins became CB (especially with the loss of Sean Smith), OT (with the loss of Jake Long), and DE. CB in particular seems like the biggest need to me, and with that in mind I think the Dolphins will take Xavier Rhodes with the twelfth overall pick. Rhodes is known for being a physical and athletic corner, and his height and size (6-2, 210 lbs.) should help him match up well against larger receivers.

13. Buccaneers - Colonel Nasty - Bjoern Werner - FSU

Even though Werner seems like a reach, I just can't justify Trufant this high. The Bucs need secondary help bad but with not a single double digit sack DE on the roster and Claybourne coming off surgery along with Bowers being a dumb fucking Talib wannabe the Tampa Bay Bucs select Bjoern Werner "Brothers" from FSU.

14. Panthers - Bowser - Sheldon Richardson - DT - Missouri

Bowser said:
Panthers need a stud DT. While we resigned Edwards, he's aging and likely only has a year or two of quality play left. We also had to release Ron Edwards due in a salary cap related move. 2011 3rd round pick Sione Fua has been a bust of epic proportions and will likely stick on the roster because he's cheap and we have little depth at the position. Richardson is an explosive athlete and should add a playmaker on the interior of the line to help free up Kuechly, Beason and Davis to make plays at the line of scrimmage.

15. Saints - cajunator - Barkevious Mingo - DE/OLB - LSU

cajunator said:
A standout at LSU, he would be a local favorite to shore up a much maligned defense. He would be used heavily in pass rush situations in Rob Ryan's 3/4. Playing in the SEC should have prepared him for the NFL.

16. Rams - squicken, B for Bendetta - Jonathan Cooper - G - North Carolina

Well that went fast. I know that I would definitely take Cooper too. Problem is that Fisher has never drafted OL in the first round. The only other choice here is Cordarrelle Patterson. He and Austin are the only two big-time playmakers in the draft. As far as big needs, it's OLB and safety

The Rams absolutely would take Sheldon Richardson if he was there, but he's not.

Vacarro isn't good enough to separate from the other safeties.

Patterson is VERY similar to Brian Quick in terms of strengths and weaknesses, but he is better. If they both work out, it would be like having Jones and White

Jarvis Jones doesn't fit the Rams scheme. They'd go with Tank if they wanted another DE. He's not fast enough to play OLB for STL

So it's either Patterson or Cooper. Since they lost Turner and Wells is an injury risk, they really need insurance at OG and C. Cooper can do both, but hopefully not have to play C until next year. So Cooper is the pick. Starts right away at LG

17. Steelers - DeaconKnowledge, chuckddd, Angmarsking701, 789shadow - Cordarrelle Patterson - WR - Tenessee

With the 17th pick in the 2013 NFL-Gaf Mock Draft, Steelers-Gaf selects Cordarrelle Patterson, WR out of Tennessee.

With the loss of Mike Wallace, the Steelers can immediately fill his spot in the line up with Patterson. He gives Roethlisberger the tall target that he's always wanted. It's also more urgent to get a big receiver this year, with the questionable availability of Heath Miller. Patterson is a deep threat play maker and great after the catch. He can also return kicks, saving Antonio Brown some wear and tear.

On the down side, he's unpolished and needs to work on his routes and high pointing the ball. The same could be said of Wallace for his entire Steeler tenure, though.

The highest rated receiver falls to the Steelers, so it's a fairly easy pick. Jarvis Jones was the other closest competitor here, but he had a terrible pro day and has health concerns.

18. Cowboys - cashman - Datone Jones - DE - UCLA

cashman said:
The Cowboys biggest priority for the draft should be getting D line personnel for Monte Kiffin's defense, and I think Datone Jones would be perfect to line up at left defensive end opposite of Ware.

19. Giants - Futurevoid, BigAT, Striker, The Frankman, Wellington - Cornellius "Tank" Carradine - DE - FSU

Futurevoid said:
Offensive line is a need for the Giants but the reality is that the team would have to trade up in the second round to get the type of impact DE they usually pursue in the draft whereas there is plenty of developmental talent on the offensive line in the 2nd-3rd round the Giants can grab which is more their style.

With the 19th pick, the Giants fit both a need and a value pick with Carradine. A player with top 10 type of talent but who will invariably drop due to concerns about the recent ACL tear he's recovering from. Prior to that, Carradine was on a tear putting up 11 sacks in 11 games. He has the type of long arms (near 35inches) that the Giants love to see in their DE's. He's a little shorter than what they usually go for but at 6'4, 276 pounds, the Giants will gain a player who can afford to get fully healthy and play spot duty until Justin Tuck finishes the final year of his contract. The combination of Carradine and JPP could put the Giants defensive line back in the role of domination that eluded them in the 2012 season for years to come.

20. Bears - cuevas, phd., Vio-lence, Plasticine, minx88 - Alec Ogletree - LB - Georgia

Plasticine said:
With Brian Urlacher sent packing, the Bears need a presence in the middle of their defense. DJ Williams was a nice signing, but doesn't represent a long term solution for the position. Alec Ogletree is arguably the best linebacker in the draft, but his unmitigated talent has been hampered by character concerns. Fast, physical and aggressive, Ogletree brings the attitude and style of play expected of a Monster of the Midway. His troubled past may represent a gamble, but it's one I think Phil Emery would be comfortable taking should Ogletree fall to the Bears.

21. Bengals - eznark - Kenny Vaccarro - FS - Texas

Since Vollmer signed elsewhere and the tackle market has suddenly thinned, the Bengals are likely to bring back Andre Smith for less than they expected. It's possible that Smith says fuck you after the butt raping the Brown's gave him over his rookie contract but I expect them to bring him back. My pick hinges on that signing. If the Bengals don't get him they will need a OT and this draft should have a couple decent options still lingering here. I expect them to take either Fluker or Menelik should Smith go elsewhere (GB perhaps?).

The pick though, since Brown got out the jaws of life and pried out a few haypennies to begrudgingly release from his clutches to bring back Smith will be Kenny Vaccarro.

I have a couple problems with this scenario, mostly because I don't see any chance of Vaccarro, far and away the best safety available in the draft, still being available. I think Squicken and Cashman are dumb as bricks for passing on him and I could see about half of the teams ahead of Cincinnati taking a guy who is pretty much a lock to start and contribute day 1 (I think you'll hear a lot of teams linking themselves to him trying to get Dallas or St. Louis to move up for him) but Marvin Lewis will get the last laugh and Vaccarro will have a Harrison Smith type immediate impact.

He is a rare safety that can actually play at least decently in man, is a fantastic athlete with solid ball skills and isn't afraid to use his speed to fill a gap. Personally I think the kid is special. His draft stock fell mostly because he struggled to keep his motor running playing for a fuck-awful Texas team.

His strength is his weakness. He is over-aggressive and at times undisciplined. It leads to him being out of position when not given a specific assignment (so in zone...kind of a bummer in the Age of 2High). But, that aggressiveness, speed and raw talent will be a massive boon for a team with defensive gurus like Cincinnati. Lewis et al have been able to mold a number of raw, athletic, gifted piles of shit into absolute studs and I expect no different here.

22. Rams (from Redskins) - squicken, B for Bendetta - DeAndre Hopkins - WR - Clemson

At 22, Rams take DeAndre Hopkins. Probably a little early. Could end up being Keenan Allen. Might also be a good trade down spot for teams wanting a QB, or a team wanting to get ahead of MIN and take a WR. But Hopkins it is, and I really like the player. Not as fast as his Combine speed but a super-competitive player who is most often compared to Anquan Boldin. Faster but not as strong, he is extremely good at catching contested balls and using his body to create last moment separation

23. Vikings - BannedEpisode - ON THE CLOCK!
24. Colts - SpinDasher
25. Vikings - from Seattle - BannedEpisode
26. Packers - eznark, TheLegendary
27. Texans - MechDX
28. Broncos - Godslay, Hunter S Thompson
29. Patriots - Dutch Patriot
30. Falcons - Talon
31. 49ers - FrenchMovieTheme
32. Ravens - BaltimoreLarry, Nakazato

VIKINGS ARE ON THE CLOCK! Vikebike has until 1pm to enter their pick.

BannedEpisode has been PM'd for both this pick and the 25th pick (he can give me a top three)

I also PM'd SpinDasher for him to start working on the Colts.
 

squicken

Member
Spindasher my suggestion is Arthur Brown from K-State. Tackling machine will be a great 3 down OLB. Think he has skills to be an effective blitzer, but he isn't going to be a stand up rusher by any means. He's the guy I hope Indy takes.
 
Kellen Winslow Jr. on NFLAM. Said the Browns have contacted him. He would be reunited with Coach Chud, the OC that Winslow had his Pro Bowl season in 2007.

He's busted goods, but at veteran minimum, who knows, maybe he's got some gas left.
 
What. A WR? I know we're a bit low on young WRs right now but I don't see how we pick anything but DL or OL. We need guys to take a bullet for Ben and guys to keep us in the game. Mike Wallace #2 at best is what, Crabtree year 1?
 

Bowser

Member
Kellen Winslow Jr. on NFLAM. Said the Browns have contacted him. He would be reunited with Coach Chud, the OC that Winslow had his Pro Bowl season in 2007.

He's busted goods, but at veteran minimum, who knows, maybe he's got some gas left.

Apparently Panthers have contacted him as well. If I were him, I'd def go to the Browns though, Chud could revive his career.
 
Apparently Panthers have contacted him as well. If I were him, I'd def go to the Browns though, Chud could revive his career.

I agree. We know he can't block worth a lick, but Winslow always had damn soft hands. Would be a good security blacket for Weeden if Winslow can still get in and out of breaks.

Not impressed at all worth our Kellen Davis signing. Ha, we'd have two Kellen's at TE, now we need to also sign Fred Davis to have two Davis' too at TE.

Chud can't heal fucked up knees. Winslow is toast.

This is also true, Still, there's really no obligation to a training camp contract to see if he does have anything left.
 
What. A WR? I know we're a bit low on young WRs right now but I don't see how we pick anything but DL or OL. We need guys to take a bullet for Ben and guys to keep us in the game. Mike Wallace #2 at best is what, Crabtree year 1?
we drafted OL in rounds 1 and 2 last year. we won't go OL again in round 1. I'd love a pass rusher to be there for us but we didn't see one without reaching. patterson was best available player. would I prefer that the real draft go differently? you betcha. but given how this mock went he was the pick.
 
Kellen Winslow Jr. on NFLAM. Said the Browns have contacted him. He would be reunited with Coach Chud, the OC that Winslow had his Pro Bowl season in 2007.

He's busted goods, but at veteran minimum, who knows, maybe he's got some gas left.

Hey, I could pull my Kellen Winslow jersey back out of the closet! lol
 
Hey, I could pull my Kellen Winslow jersey back out of the closet! lol

Me too! I went to his only full game pre-injury, 2004 Season Opener against the Ravens where freaking Jeff Garcia lead us to a win! After said win, went to team gift shop and bought the #80 jersey. Bah, think I jinxed him.

Oh, and Hi, Amish! :D
 

bionic77

Member
I was at that game. It was a great game, and the Steelers won. Which made it even better.

So this is my first post in this thread. Any specific rules to follow? Anything I should know? I am a die hard Steelers fan and I am a season ticket holder for WVU football. If that helps out at all.
As a Steelers fan do not embarrass the rest of us by doing dumb shit like complimenting the Patriots or saying Ray Lewis was innocent and a role model.

Also don't talk shit if you won't be around when things go badly.

Otherwise have fun and welcome. Can always use more Steelers fans!
 
As a Steelers fan do not embarrass the rest of us by doing dumb shit like complimenting the Patriots or saying Ray Lewis was innocent and a role model.

Also don't talk shit if you won't be around when things go badly.

Otherwise have fun and welcome. Can always use more Steelers fans!
also learn what :jnc means. that's important and sort of the code required to get into this insular community.


edit: dammit double post
 
Report on Barrett Jones possibly dropping into the third/fourth round due to his lisfranc injury:

http://walterfootball.com/nfldraftrumormill.php

At the end of the season, however, Jones sustained a lisfranc injury against Georgia in the SEC Championship. He finished that outing and played with it versus Notre Dame in the BCS National Championship. The injury prevented Jones from playing at the Senior Bowl and participating in the NFL Scouting Combine. Many in the NFL regard Jones' malady as more complex to come back from than a simple break.

Scouts told WalterFootball.com that their teams believe Jones won't be ready for the start of training camp and will probably start out his NFL career on the PUP (physically unable to perform) list. Being injured and unable to work out for scouts has definitely hurt Jones' draft stock according to scouts.

Sources believe that the uncertainty about when Jones will be able to take the field is hurting teams' comfort with drafting him. Scouts said they believe that he could make it into the third round, but could easily be a fourth-round pick.

Someone is going to come away with a steal in the third/fourth if that's the case. Even if he does start out on PUP.

They also have some insight into Damontre Moor after speaking with scouts about him:

Last year, Moore was one of the most dominant defensive players in college football. As a 20-year-old junior, he totaled 12.5 sacks - one of the larger totals in the country. Perhaps even more impressive than that, Moore led his team with 85 tackles - four more than the next closest defender. He had 21 tackles for a loss, two passes broken up, a blocked kick and a forced fumble. Moore also played through an ankle injury during the season.

While Moore (6-4, 250) was playing well on the field, he was creating a bad reputation for himself off of it. In June of 2011, Moore was arrested and accused of possessing less than two ounces of marijuana. Aside from the public incidents, Moore became known for not being a hard worker and a guy that looks to party.

WalterFootball.com spoke with scouts about Moore to get an idea about the concerns teams have with Moore's character. Scouts said that Moore is complex. Not only did he have that arrest, but there are suspicions that he has had some positive drug tests at Texas A&M.

Scouts said that they think Moore is going to happily indulge in the "NFL life" with excessive spending, partying and being involved with women. They believe that Moore is super immature. He's not a worker who is going to be an example for other players in the offseason conditioning program.

As a player, scouts said that Moore was not that explosive, but he is a natural pass rusher. They feel that Moore can get pushed around sometimes in the run game, but they said his pursuit skills and closing on ball carriers are incredible. One scout said that Moore has some Aldon Smith to his game.

The other complex part to Moore is that scouts said he plays extremely hard. As said by one scout, "the guy goes balls to the wall from kickoff until there is no time on the clock." Thus, they feel his effort on the field is a head-scratcher considering his lack of work ethic off the field. They wonder when/if he grows up how good he can be if he would dedicate himself to working hard in the offseason.

Scouts said that Moore needs to interview well with teams during his team visits. Any team that is interested in drafting Moore will probably host him at the their facility in order get more comfortable with adding him to their roster. Even after getting drafted, Moore is going to have a lot to prove on and off the field in the NFL.
 
Report on Barrett Jones possibly dropping into the third/fourth round due to his lisfranc injury:

http://walterfootball.com/nfldraftrumormill.php



Someone is going to come away with a steal in the third/fourth if that's the case. Even if he does start out on PUP.

They also have some insight into Damontre Moor after speaking with scouts about him:

Good stuff. Always like informative posts like these over the typical banter in the offseason. You and Squicken have done a nice job in LJ's place. I just wish he could come back -__-. He had some really good stuff last draft about tackle prospects!
 

ChanHuk

Banned
So the Cowboys have no cap space even though they restructured like everyone? How fucked are they cap wise next season with all these restructures?
 
Report on Barrett Jones possibly dropping into the third/fourth round due to his lisfranc injury:

http://walterfootball.com/nfldraftrumormill.php



Someone is going to come away with a steal in the third/fourth if that's the case. Even if he does start out on PUP.

They also have some insight into Damontre Moor after speaking with scouts about him:

If either Moore or Jarvis Jones is there for the Patriots they have to take them.
 
Good stuff. Always like informative posts like these over the typical banter in the offseason. You and Squicken have done a nice job in LJ's place. I just wish he could come back -__-. He had some really good stuff last draft about tackle prospects!

If LJ really wanted to post here he would've and noone would care. Im thinking he probably didn't enjoy how ridiculous it has become
 

ChanHuk

Banned
That's right, didn't they get penalized by the league pretty bad a couple years ago?

They didn't get molested as bad as the Redskins did. I think they were penalized like 10 million or something. Redskins got robbed of 40 million and still made it to the playoffs.
 
The Cleveland Plain Dealer reports the Browns are not interested in free agent Kellen Winslow, despite his claim to the contrary.
New coach Rob Chudzinski coached Winslow at the University of Miami and during his 2007-08 stint as the Browns' offensive coordinator, but apparently isn't keen on a reunion. Winslow's creaky knees likely have something to do with it. Winslow is doing his best to create the appearance of a market for his services, but there shouldn't be any rush to get him under contract.
I could only imagine the reactions if he came back "he's a Fu***** soldier"
SI's Peter King is "hearing doubts" on Alabama CB Dee Milliner, and believes he could fall out of the top five in next month's draft.
King still believes it would be an "upset" if Milliner slipped past the Lions at No. 5. King doesn't specify the exact "doubts" he's hearing on the draft's top corner. If Detroit made the decision to pass Milliner up, it would likely be for a left tackle or defensive end -- two glaring Lions needs.
Huah
 

BigAT

Member
Is Ogletree expected to play on the inside or outside in the NFL? I think he played the ILB at Georgia but many of the prospect lists I have seen list him as an OLB for the draft. I guess his size and the fact that he's a converted safety would make him more suited for OLB in the NFL.
 
Me too! I went to his only full game pre-injury, 2004 Season Opener against the Ravens where freaking Jeff Garcia lead us to a win! After said win, went to team gift shop and bought the #80 jersey. Bah, think I jinxed him.

Oh, and Hi, Amish! :D

Hi Bats!

Nah, being on the Browns is what jinxed him :p.

I still need to get a Weeden jersey. At least so I can say I was a fan of his before his breakout Pro Bowl season in 2013
hahahahahahaha!!! That is just impossible to say with a straight face
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Nicely done with the mock draft pick, BrownsGAF. I like it ;).
 

Calm Killer

In all media, only true fans who consume every book, film, game, or pog collection deserve to know what's going on.
How many couches have you burned? What do your sources say about conference alignement?

Srsly, who do you think's going to be the better pro, Smith or Austin?

I have burned 0 couches, but I have been in town when they were burnt. VT in 03 and Louisville in 06. Conference realignment will happen. Your guess is as good as mine as far as who to where. I can tell you what I want to happen. Doesn't mean it will.


Austin is the most electric player I have ever seen touch a football. He gets a lot of crap from the scouts for only being 5'9. His height doesn't matter to me. Because you can't hit what you can't catch. He can make people miss and he can hide behind the O line. He is quick, but I didn't realize how fast he was until I watched the combine. I have watched him his whole career at WVU and didn't expect him to break 4.3.

Smith can excel as an NFL starter if he is in the right situation. He can make all the throws, but he need to get better at reading the defense. He has great pocket presence and he can move around in the pocket without pulling the ball down and taking off. He reminds me of a Donavon McNabb early in his career with Ben Rothelisburger's Pocket presence. I don't think he will excel if he is thrust into the starting position early. He has to make the transition from spread shotgun to under center. He will work to improve. He was always in the film room trying to improve.

I think Austin will make the fastest acclimation to the NFL because of his shear play making ability. Smith will be a good pro after his second year. Honestly though I think Stedman Bailey will be a player that surprises a lot of people. He will be a great pickup in the 3rd round. I am hoping the steelers pick him up in the 3rd to replace Wallace. He doesn't have the speed that Wallace did, but he runs great routes and catches everything.
 

BigAT

Member
Good news Giants fans:

Mike Garafolo ‏@MikeGarafolo
Giants are getting LG Kevin Boothe back. He'll sign a one-year deal to return to the team.

Boothe is a solid, if not spectacular, guard and performed well last year. More importantly, if Boothe didn't return the Giants were going to have a gaping hole at LG with virtually no one on the current roster to fill it.
 

Draxal

Member
Good news Giants fans:

Mike Garafolo ‏@MikeGarafolo
Giants are getting LG Kevin Boothe back. He'll sign a one-year deal to return to the team.

Boothe is a solid, if not spectacular, guard and performed well last year. More importantly, if Boothe didn't return the Giants were going to have a gaping hole at LG with virtually no one on the current roster to fill it.

Ayup, still need to go high with ol imho, we have no depth whatsoever.
 

Calm Killer

In all media, only true fans who consume every book, film, game, or pog collection deserve to know what's going on.
As a Steelers fan do not embarrass the rest of us by doing dumb shit like complimenting the Patriots or saying Ray Lewis was innocent and a role model.

Also don't talk shit if you won't be around when things go badly.

Otherwise have fun and welcome. Can always use more Steelers fans!

I don't talk shit. I generally try to speak in facts and history. And the first thing I did when the Steelers lost to the Packers in the super bowl was to congratulate them on my social feeds. If we deserve to lose then that is the way it is.
 

Dragon

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I don't talk shit. I generally try to speak in facts and history. And the first thing I did when the Steelers lost to the Packers in the super bowl was to congratulate them on my social feeds. If we deserve to lose then that is the way it is.

You should understand who you're posting with...bionic talks more shit than anyone else on here. He does post how it is when the Steelers are mediocre though so I'll give him that!
 
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