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[BlackGhost]

Kurt Coleman is better than Adrian Peterson too!

High-five Browns fans!

Hell yeah

Also dammit Mech :lol

 

[BannedEpisode]

We need more of that attitude in here. No more self-defeating Browns fans. This is your time to prowl the thread like you own the place

Spoiler

...until the season starts.

Its not like the Vikings have ever won a superbowl and somehow they manage to keep from wallowing (for the most part) in their own defeatist poodoo.

 

[Plasticine]

You're going to have do something or say something to stand out !

Also pick for your people!



Im not even trying to be a dick here, im being honest. There is so many people that come and go through the thread. If you dont do something/say something to stand out you'll never be known.

I pretty much just post about the Bears and NFC North. Don't really bother with the other teams, unless it's an opportunity to dump on the Browns.

 

[JABEE]

Fuck taking a receiver in the first round. Unless you get Jerry Rice (who did not go early) that is not a great pick.

The Lions eventually made a good receiver pick with Calvin Johnson, but that was after wasting their perennial top 5 picks on receivers like Mike Williams.

 

[BannedEpisode]

Guys good, but he's no Trent pshh.
Call me when Adrian gets a NFL rule against him and joins the big leagues. #TrentTruck

Still cant believe we lost that one.

 

[squicken]

Plasticine just go ahead and make the pick. No other Bears fans are showing up

Fuck taking a receiver in the first round. Unless you get Jerry Rice (who did not go early) that is not a great pick.

Lynn Swann?

 

[Futurevoid]

Bears pick was sent my way by Plasticine. If I don't hear from any other Bears folks in 20 minutes the pick is going in.

 

[JABEE]

The only rule Ponder has influence over is the underground movement to abolish the forward pass.

A lot of receivers use their helmet to break tackles and power through defenders. Peterson was very effective at using his helmet.

 

[cdyhybrid]

You guys want a good laugh? Go check out Florio's mock draft at PFT right now. Marcus Trufant somehow defies the odds and is the first CB off the board (to Detroit, no less), and Barkley is picked before Smith. May be the worst mock I've ever seen.

Only the Lions would draft a 32 year old corner!

 

[B For Bendetta]

I like Hopkins over Allen as well, so I guess the question is will the Rams staff see the same thing?

 

[Bowser]

I wouldn't mind Florio's mock at all! lol

 

[BannedEpisode]

The only rule Ponder has influence over is the underground movement to abolish the forward pass.

A lot of receivers use their helmet to break tackles and power through defenders. Peterson was very effective at using his helmet.

He's an old soul.

 

[MechDX]

Only the Lions would draft a 32 year old corner!

We signed a 35 year old safety.

 

[MechDX]

Damn google animated image search is awesome!

 

[BannedEpisode]

Behold: AD's best play.

 

[AngmarsKing701]

Fuck taking a receiver in the first round. Unless you get Jerry Rice (who did not go early) that is not a great pick.

You don't like Michael Jordan and you think the DS is the best console of the past decade. You are also wearing a Tom Brady avy and last year you had to wear a T-Sizzle avy.

In short, you have suspect decision-making ability.

 

[BlackGhost]

Hahaha Kave

Spoiler

his reaction to another browns lost :/

 

[squicken]

I like Hopkins over Allen as well, so I guess the question is will the Rams staff see the same thing?

At 16, I would say they would love Patterson or Austin to be there. If not, Sheldon Richardson. There's just no way Cooper will be there, but if he somehow is, that's the guy. I think they pass on Warmack for the other three.

At 22, they would try and trade out to a QB hungry team at the top of the second round. Could go lots of ways, but it depends on who they have a 16. What I think they will do is draft OLB. You could argue that Hopkins, Allen, Hunter and Rogers are all pretty close and might be there in the 2nd round. There is a wider gulf between the first round OLBs and the 2nd round OLBs, but the positional value is lower

But they have to make sure they get the WR. Let's go Hopkins

 

[MechDX]

Hahaha Kave

Spoiler

his reaction to another browns lost :/

Oddly my search term was "matt schaub",.

Must mean the Browns are trading their first round pick for Schaub

 

[JABEE]

You don't like Michael Jordan and you think the DS is the best console of the past decade. You are also wearing a Tom Brady avy and last year you had to wear a T-Sizzle avy.

In short, you have suspect decision-making ability.

These are the only objectionable things that you are using to describe Bionic, and those are things that were imposed on him.

 

[BlackGhost]

Oddly my search term was "matt schaub",.

Must mean the Browns are trading their first round pick for Schaub

You'll probably hate me for saying this but I actually use to be a pretty big Schaub fan. Use to try and draft him in all my fantasy football drafts, had him when he had that great year.

 

[B For Bendetta]

At 16, I would say they would love Patterson or Austin to be there. If not, Sheldon Richardson. There's just no way Cooper will be there, but if he somehow is, that's the guy. I think they pass on Warmack for the other three.

At 22, they would try and trade out to a QB hungry team at the top of the second round. Could go lots of ways, but it depends on who they have a 16. What I think they will do is draft OLB. You could argue that Hopkins, Allen, Hunter and Rogers are all pretty close and might be there in the 2nd round. There is a wider gulf between the first round OLBs and the 2nd round OLBs, but the positional value is lower

But they have to make sure they get the WR. Let's go Hopkins

Sounds good

 

[MechDX]

You'll probably hate me for saying this but I actually use to be a pretty big Schaub fan. Use to try and draft him in all my fantasy football drafts, had him when he had that great year.

Oh I defended his ass until the last 4 games of this past season when he became a spineless bitch

 

[minx]

Bears fan reporting in. We just signed 2 one year deals with LBs that aren't that great and 30 years old. Need to find Urlacher's replacement. I choose Ogletree. Don't feel like doing much of a writeup, so there.

 

[Futurevoid]

NFL-Gaf Mock Draft 2013

1. Chiefs - Luke Joeckel - T - Texas A&M

That said, right now I expect the pick to be Luke Joeckel. While the Chiefs are also going to work out Lane Johnson and Eric Fisher, Joeckel seems to be the consensus best LT in the draft. He would immediately start at right tackle, and should slide over to LT to fill Albert's spot in 2014. Are these mock draft entries usually full of venom and vitriol towards the expected pick? Because that's all I have left.

2. Jaguars - Eric Fisher - T - Central Michigan

Jags #2 Pick!

Jags have a LOT of holes to fill, and the top 10 is a real crapshoot with who will be the most impactful.

They plan on building the offense around a renewed MJD, preparing to give him a big contract to get him to spend the rest of his career here. That means they need to shore up their offensive line. Since Joeckel is taken, they will pick Eric Fisher from Central Michigan. His specialty is pushing people back, and that's all MJD needs to really use his skills. Defensive Tackles are too hit-and-miss, but O-line are generally stable.

3. Raiders - ChanHuk, Mackenzie 92 - Star Lotulelei - DT - University of Utah

With the #3 selection in the 2013 Mock NFLGAF draft the glorious Oakland Raiders select; Star Lotulelei, defensive tackle University of Utah.

The Raiders are in complete rebuild mode, no more of this nonsense "reload" of the Al Davis era of just overpaying washed up vets. Only 4 starters return from last year's dismal defense, the Raiders need to address their run defense which has been pathetic the last decade.

Star Lotulelei is similar to a player we should've picked in the 2006 NFL draft in Haloti Ngata. Star is not as dominant as Ngata but still commands double team blocks against the run. Star isn't going to get you flashy sack numbers but he'll allow your LBs to make plays. Teams are built in the trenches, Raiders now possess two stout young defensive linemen in Star and Lamar Houston. With the addition of Vance Walker through FA, the Raiders now possess a formidable run stopping defensive line.

4. Eagles - Yankeehater, JABEE - Dee Miliner - CB - University of Alabama

The Eagles have already taken big strides to improve their biggest weakness last year. The Eagles have a ton of holes to fill, but Dee is the best player available that fills one of those holes. Even though Dee doesn't posses the return skills of a Deion Sanders, he is unquestionably the best CB in this draft.

5. Lions - WedgeX, Goldlion054, Kastrioti, Plinko - Ziggy Ansah - DE - BYU

Worst case scenario here, but the lions will be selecting DE Ziggy Anash from BYU here. With the loss of Backus, Detroit would have loved to fill the role with a franchise player like Fischer, but not the case here. The coaching staff reportedly loves Anash after the senior bowl and he'll fit into Mayhew's bpa strategy. He may be raw, but his ceiling is very high and can hopefully become a JPP type player with those skills. Again, worst case scenario, but it'll have to do

6. Browns - BlackGhost, Wes, theBatman - Dion Jordan -DE/OLB - Oregon

With the browns switch to the 3-4, they pick up the best OLB prospect in the draft. Jordan still has to prove he can bring an arsenal of pass rush moves to the table but he has proven himself to be proficient when dropping in coverage, offers excellent size/length and speed and fits the mold as the type of physical specimen that can develop into a top caliber pass rusher in this draft.

7. Cardinals - Squall ASF (Futurevoid standing in as Squall was not around) - Geno Smith - QB - West Virginia

I struggled with this pick and it really shouldn't have been. Chance Warmack makes the most sense. You can go on all about a guard not having been picked Top 10 in however many years but this is 10+ year starter for a team that has about an awful an offensive line as there is. However, I'm not making the pick. I'm supposed to try and guess at what the Cardinals will do and frankly I can't escape the desperation a team with Drew Stanton as their opening day starter has to contend with.

Lane Johnson was also a possibility here but I'm going with my gut here. Geno Smith doesn't get past the Bills and I don't think the Bills will have the chance to draft him. Arians go throw out all of the smokescreens he likes about not being impressed with any of the QB class. It's a reach and the Cardinals are the team to do it.

8. Bills - LJ11 - Tavon Austin - WR - West Virginia

GAF Mock draft has always been about choosing the player you think your team is going to take. Pretty sure the Bills will take a QB, but I'm not sure a QB is worth the 8th overall pick. They desperately needed an offensive tackle last season, but didn't get desperate and reach. I think they're going to do it the same way this year. Nassib and Wilson are the only two possibilities but with 6 picks, next to no moves in FA, and a ton of holes you would be wise to trade back regardless off return and then make a play for a QB. You don't need a haul either. This is the Bills though, so....

They've gone D heavy the last few years, need some offense, and I'm using the CJ rational to make this pick.

Tavon Austin, find me a better more explosive offensive threat in this draft? You can't.

9. Jets - Fox318 (Futurevoid standing in) - Shariff Floyd - DT - Florida

WR and OL makes sense here for the Jets but Rex likes his defense and considering they've let go of a number of high priced vets to clear cap space, I think they can't let a prospect like Floyd continue to drop. He'll play the 5 tech in the 3-4 and should be a force alongside Wilkerson. I was thinking Mingo here as well but Floyd is just a better prospect to me with this high of a pick.

10. Titans - Fidelis Hodie (Futurevoid standing in) - Chance Warmack - G - Alabama

As a former offensive lineman who was drafted in the top-10, Titans head coach Mike Munchak will undoubtedly be impressed with Warmack. And even after spending big money on Andy Levitre in free agency, the Titans could use another guard opposite him.

11. Chargers - Nightz - Lane Johnson - T - Oklahoma

The Chargers would like to get the Philip Rivers of old back and know that fixing the offensive line is the first step in doing so. With 4 out of 5 starters on the line still unknown at this point, Lane Johnson is the pick. Johnson has shown lots of potential and will step in to the starting left tackle role. He will be relied on heavily to protect the blind side and keep Rivers upright.

12. Dolphins - The_Darkest_Red - Xavier Rhodes - CB - FSU

With the WR need being considerably addressed in free agency, the biggest needs for the Dolphins became CB (especially with the loss of Sean Smith), OT (with the loss of Jake Long), and DE. CB in particular seems like the biggest need to me, and with that in mind I think the Dolphins will take Xavier Rhodes with the twelfth overall pick. Rhodes is known for being a physical and athletic corner, and his height and size (6-2, 210 lbs.) should help him match up well against larger receivers.

13. Buccaneers - Colonel Nasty - Bjoern Werner - FSU

Even though Werner seems like a reach, I just can't justify Trufant this high. The Bucs need secondary help bad but with not a single double digit sack DE on the roster and Claybourne coming off surgery along with Bowers being a dumb fucking Talib wannabe the Tampa Bay Bucs select Bjoern Werner "Brothers" from FSU.

14. Panthers - Bowser - Sheldon Richardson - DT - Missouri

Panthers need a stud DT. While we resigned Edwards, he's aging and likely only has a year or two of quality play left. We also had to release Ron Edwards due in a salary cap related move. 2011 3rd round pick Sione Fua has been a bust of epic proportions and will likely stick on the roster because he's cheap and we have little depth at the position. Richardson is an explosive athlete and should add a playmaker on the interior of the line to help free up Kuechly, Beason and Davis to make plays at the line of scrimmage.

15. Saints - cajunator - Barkevious Mingo - DE/OLB - LSU

A standout at LSU, he would be a local favorite to shore up a much maligned defense. He would be used heavily in pass rush situations in Rob Ryan's 3/4. Playing in the SEC should have prepared him for the NFL.

16. Rams - squicken, B for Bendetta - Jonathan Cooper - G - North Carolina

Well that went fast. I know that I would definitely take Cooper too. Problem is that Fisher has never drafted OL in the first round. The only other choice here is Cordarrelle Patterson. He and Austin are the only two big-time playmakers in the draft. As far as big needs, it's OLB and safety

The Rams absolutely would take Sheldon Richardson if he was there, but he's not.

Vacarro isn't good enough to separate from the other safeties.

Patterson is VERY similar to Brian Quick in terms of strengths and weaknesses, but he is better. If they both work out, it would be like having Jones and White

Jarvis Jones doesn't fit the Rams scheme. They'd go with Tank if they wanted another DE. He's not fast enough to play OLB for STL

So it's either Patterson or Cooper. Since they lost Turner and Wells is an injury risk, they really need insurance at OG and C. Cooper can do both, but hopefully not have to play C until next year. So Cooper is the pick. Starts right away at LG

17. Steelers - DeaconKnowledge, chuckddd, Angmarsking701, 789shadow - Cordarrelle Patterson - WR - Tenessee

With the 17th pick in the 2013 NFL-Gaf Mock Draft, Steelers-Gaf selects Cordarrelle Patterson, WR out of Tennessee.

With the loss of Mike Wallace, the Steelers can immediately fill his spot in the line up with Patterson. He gives Roethlisberger the tall target that he's always wanted. It's also more urgent to get a big receiver this year, with the questionable availability of Heath Miller. Patterson is a deep threat play maker and great after the catch. He can also return kicks, saving Antonio Brown some wear and tear.

On the down side, he's unpolished and needs to work on his routes and high pointing the ball. The same could be said of Wallace for his entire Steeler tenure, though.

The highest rated receiver falls to the Steelers, so it's a fairly easy pick. Jarvis Jones was the other closest competitor here, but he had a terrible pro day and has health concerns.

18. Cowboys - cashman - Datone Jones - DE - UCLA

The Cowboys biggest priority for the draft should be getting D line personnel for Monte Kiffin's defense, and I think Datone Jones would be perfect to line up at left defensive end opposite of Ware.

19. Giants - Futurevoid, BigAT, Striker, The Frankman, Wellington - Cornellius "Tank" Carradine - DE - FSU

Offensive line is a need for the Giants but the reality is that the team would have to trade up in the second round to get the type of impact DE they usually pursue in the draft whereas there is plenty of developmental talent on the offensive line in the 2nd-3rd round the Giants can grab which is more their style.

With the 19th pick, the Giants fit both a need and a value pick with Carradine. A player with top 10 type of talent but who will invariably drop due to concerns about the recent ACL tear he's recovering from. Prior to that, Carradine was on a tear putting up 11 sacks in 11 games. He has the type of long arms (near 35inches) that the Giants love to see in their DE's. He's a little shorter than what they usually go for but at 6'4, 276 pounds, the Giants will gain a player who can afford to get fully healthy and play spot duty until Justin Tuck finishes the final year of his contract. The combination of Carradine and JPP could put the Giants defensive line back in the role of domination that eluded them in the 2012 season for years to come.

20. Bears - cuevas, phd., Vio-lence, Plasticine, minx88 - Alec Ogletree - LB - Georgia

With Brian Urlacher sent packing, the Bears need a presence in the middle of their defense. DJ Williams was a nice signing, but doesn't represent a long term solution for the position. Alec Ogletree is arguably the best linebacker in the draft, but his unmitigated talent has been hampered by character concerns. Fast, physical and aggressive, Ogletree brings the attitude and style of play expected of a Monster of the Midway. His troubled past may represent a gamble, but it's one I think Phil Emery would be comfortable taking should Ogletree fall to the Bears.

21. Bengals - eznark - ON THE CLOCK
22. Rams (from Redskins) - squicken, B for Bendetta
23. Vikings - BannedEpisode
24. Colts - SpinDasher
25. Vikings - from Seattle - BannedEpisode
26. Packers - eznark, TheLegendary
27. Texans - MechDX
28. Broncos - Godslay, Hunter S Thompson
29. Patriots - Dutch Patriot
30. Falcons - Talon
31. 49ers - FrenchMovieTheme
32. Ravens - BaltimoreLarry, Nakazato

BENGALS ARE ON THE CLOCK! No time limit past 12am. Things can progress as they go. 4 hour time limit resumes at 8am EST. We'll move back to 2 hours per if things slow down too much.

Rams have your picks/write-ups ready.

Vikings-Gaf you're also up.

..and with that I'm done for the night.

 

[Squall ASF]

I fought for Warmack, buddy. You'll have to find the old thread for the initial writeup and discussion

I found your post referencing mine in the last thread, you represented me well, buddy. Futurevoid's trolling was not to be denied it seems I can't complain regardless since I missed this but yeah, I'm completely certain that we'd have went Warmack if the draft played out this way the first 6 picks. I believe the pass rusher we're most interested in is Dion Jordan so with him off, Warmack, no question. I don't think Jags will take Fischer though and that will change the whole complexion of the first six picks so the options the Cards will have in the real draft will make things more interesting. Will be between Fischer, Warmack, and Jordan IMO.

 

[Futurevoid]

I found your post referencing mine in the last thread, you represented me well, buddy. Futurevoid's trolling was not to be denied it seems .

Not a troll. Jags, Cards or Bills are going to reach for a QB in the first round. The Cards simply offered the most obvious opportunity to reach after the Jags didn't take the bait. If Drew Stanton is your day 1 starter....:jnc

I don't think Geno makes it past the Bills but you're both equally desperate to find that "franchise" QB.

 

[Squall ASF]

Not a troll. Jags, Cards or Bills are going to reach for a QB in the first round. The Cards simply offered the most obvious opportunity to reach after the Jags didn't take the bait. If Drew Stanton is your day 1 starter....:jnc

Stanton will be the day one starter and I'm sure FMT will have a field day with me. I already said months ago, however that as long as we upgrade the OL this off season, I'm ok with no QB this season and addressing it next year. I just feel with the QB prospects in FA and the draft, this isn't the year to do it but there have been some nice options for OL. Being that we ignored OL completely in FA, it's obvious we'll be addressing it with the draft. I expect our primary focus to be OL (guard more specifically), pass rush, and FS. After that it will be a qb somewhere (probably by third round), RB, and depth. Stanton knows Arians system and he praised Stanton's development last year before we even signed him. Smoke and mirrors aside, I think Arians is comfortable starting him as a bridge gap and that he and Keim fell as I explained above about the QB prospects. Keim said we will take a QB every draft going forth, but I don't expect it to be at 7. This is how I feel they think btw, not just my personal opinion. If Joeckel and Fischer are off the board, I'd actually be ok with taking a flyer on Geno if we got Womack in the second. Hoping we can get Fischer or elite prospect at RG though.

 

[squicken]

Stanton will be the day one starter and I'm sure FMT will have a field day with me. I already said months ago, however that as long as we upgrade the OL this off season, I'm ok with no QB this season and addressing it next year. I just feel with the QB prospects in FA and the draft, this isn't the year to do it but there have been some nice options for OL. Being that we ignored OL completely in FA, it's obvious we'll be addressing it with the draft. I expect our primary focus to be OL (guard more specifically), pass rush, and FS. After that it will be a qb somewhere (probably by third round), RB, and depth. Stanton knows Arians system and he praised Stanton's development last year before we even signed him. Smoke and mirrors aside, I think Arians is comfortable starting him as a bridge gap and that he and Keim fell as I explained above about the QB prospects. Keim said we will take a QB every draft going forth, but I don't expect it to be at 7. This is how I feel they think btw, not just my personal opinion. If Joeckel and Fischer are off the board, I'd actually be ok with taking a flyer on Geno if we got Womack in the second.

I think you guys take your shot on QB in the second. But OL in the first I think is pretty much a certainty. I don't think FV is trolling. Lots of people think the Cards will go QB. And I'm sure we'll do another mock in a couple of weeks as stage 2 of FA goes on and needs get filled

 

[cdyhybrid]

Stanton will be the day one starter

I can't wait.

 

[Colasante]

I could really see Mike Glennon going to the Cardinals in the second round, after they address the offensive line in the first. If he bulks up, he seems like he could be a perfect fit for Bruce Arians' offense.

 

[Futurevoid]

I think you guys take your shot on QB in the second. But OL in the first I think is pretty much a certainty. I don't think FV is trolling. Lots of people think the Cards will go QB. And I'm sure we'll do another mock in a couple of weeks as stage 2 of FA goes on and needs get filled

There was just no way we were getting through this mock without a QB being taken in the first 10 picks. I just do not see that happening.

Even in a shit QB year we saw Jake Locker and Blaine Gabbert go #8 and #10. Teams WILL reach. It's just a question of guessing which.

 

[Squall ASF]

I think you guys take your shot on QB in the second. But OL in the first I think is pretty much a certainty. I don't think FV is trolling. Lots of people think the Cards will go QB. And I'm sure we'll do another mock in a couple of weeks as stage 2 of FA goes on and needs get filled

I think it's a certainty we go OL at 7 as well between Fischer and Warmack with a slight chance at Jordan. I have a million times more confidence with Keim as GM than Graves and Whiz combo. It really seems like Keim and Arians have a game plan they are hatching out in stages even if we as fans don't fully know what it is. Phase one which comprised most of our FA session was a great success and that was shedding most of the bad contracts. Keim seems like he knows what he's doing and he started as a scout so drafting should be his forte. As for QB, I thought second round as well but it really depends how fast others gobble them up, there's a chance it won't be until third round. Second is probably accurate, though.

I can't wait.

Yes, yes, feast on us while you can. We have a new staff with a new plan and it's going to take a few years to get that plan to fruition. This year could be rough but I think we could potentially take big steps the next. All comes down to who we get at QB and shoring up the OL. Hopefully we do the latter now.

There was just no way we were getting through this mock without a QB being taken in the first 10 picks. I just do not see that happening.

Even in a shit QB year we saw Jake Locker and Blaine Gabbert go #8 and #10. Teams WILL reach. It's just a question of guessing which.

I thought that might be your reasoning and I agree, it just won't be us.

 

[squicken]

There was just no way we were getting through this mock without a QB being taken in the first 10 picks. I just do not see that happening.

Even in a shit QB year we saw Jake Locker and Blaine Gabbert go #8 and #10. Teams WILL reach. It's just a question of guessing which.

I'm really curious to see. Lots of these teams are moving on to the next generation of GMs. Getting away from the Tannenbaum/Gene Smith/Marty Hurneys of the NFL. I think OAK is in play b/c the owner may force it. The Bay Area media certainly thinks he meddles a bit. Buddy Nix has proven to be a bit of a goof so they are another candidate. But I think the Cards aren't going to be as dumb. Could be wrong, but my guess is it is OAK and BUF that do something dumb. Jets also if Woody gets involved

 

[BlackGhost]

Here's why it now will take until 2015 for the Browns to introduce new uniforms
By Tony Grossi
New duds are coming: During NFL owners meetings last week in Phoenix, the Browns committed not only to changing their uniforms but also to consider every facet of the team’s marketing brand.

They key word in the above paragraph is consider. They will consider new colors, which may end up being new shades of brown and orange – or something altogether different. They will consider a new secondary logo, something different from the block B inside a football shape.

For the next two years – yes, it will take that long – the Browns will work closely with NFL marketing and Nike on an apparel makeover. They are now engaged in a 24-month process, the likes of which the Browns’ franchise has never undergone.

Everything is on the table to be discussed except for one thing.

“I will say there will be no change to the helmet,” owner Jimmy Haslam said exclusively to ESPN Cleveland. “But we will look at everything else. We may change a lot. We may change a little.”

http://espncleveland.com/common/more.php?m=49& action=blog&post_id=14911

unis!

 

[Colasante]

I'm really curious to see. Lots of these teams are moving on to the next generation of GMs. Getting away from the Tannenbaum/Gene Smith/Marty Hurneys of the NFL. I think OAK is in play b/c the owner may force it. The Bay Area media certainly thinks he meddles a bit. Buddy Nix has proven to be a bit of a goof so they are another candidate. But I think the Cards aren't going to be as dumb. Could be wrong, but my guess is it is OAK and BUF that do something dumb. Jets also if Woody gets involved

I really don't see it happening this year. There just aren't the QBs that would trump reason for these owners and GMs. Geno Smith will almost certainly be a top 10 pick, but I don't think any QB will be taken for a while after that, perhaps until teams starting trade into the end of the 1st to secure whoever they consider to be 'their guy'.

I definitely don't see Reggie McKenzie taking a QB early out of desperation when their team is so completely devoid of talent. He's too smart for that. He knows if he takes the defensive BPA this year he'll probably have a pick of Bridgewater, Boyd, Manziel or whoever else next year. I think the same thing's likely true about Caldwell with the Jaguars and perhaps Keim with the Cardinals. I think it'll be the Bills to pounce on Geno, if only because they're the only team with absolutely no viable starting QB and due to the owner's age. I have no idea what the Jets will do, that team is just batshit crazy.

 

[BaltimoreLarry]

I just read some interesting stuff on possible Ravens acquisitions. Put aside the Ravens hate, don't these moves actually improve our defense despite our loses?

Lose Old Man Ray, Old Man Ed, Carey Williams, Bernard Pollard, Paul Kruger, Dannell Ellerbe

Add Elvis Dumervil, Karlos Dansby, and Kerry Rhodes

Plus, a returning Lardarius Webb and Jameel McClain, Canty and Spears in the DL rotation ( thus removing Terrance Cody), possibly start Christian Thompson at safety, plus a possible draft pick

I see it as an improvement. Losing Boldin still hurts the O, but damn, if I'm not feeling optimistic as shit right now.

I LOVE YOU OZZIE!!!!!!!!

 

[TheDrizzlerJ11]

Dansby hasn't been anything special for awhile now. Im glad we swapped him for Ellerbe.

 

[BaltimoreLarry]

Dansby hasn't been anything special for awhile now. Im glad we swapped him for Ellerbe.

134 tackles last year, can still stop the run, and only needs to replace Ray's production. He can do it. Jameel McClain is the stud there. Better than Ellerbe.

I also love Corey Graham. Feeling good right now.

Edit: forgot we still may sign Huff.

 

[BannedEpisode]

unis!

Horrible horrible idea.

They will end up like the Vikings. They will redo their classic unis and over the course of five years everyone will hate them.

Then, once their contract is up they will switch back to their throwbacks. Just like the Vikings will this year.

 

[eznark]

Since Vollmer signed elsewhere and the tackle market has suddenly thinned, the Bengals are likely to bring back Andre Smith for less than they expected. It's possible that Smith says fuck you after the butt raping the Brown's gave him over his rookie contract but I expect them to bring him back. My pick hinges on that signing. If the Bengals don't get him they will need a OT and this draft should have a couple decent options still lingering here. I expect them to take either Fluker or Menelik should Smith go elsewhere (GB perhaps?).

The pick though, since Brown got out the jaws of life and pried out a few haypennies to begrudgingly release from his clutches to bring back Smith will be Kenny Vaccarro.

I have a couple problems with this scenario, mostly because I don't see any chance of Vaccarro, far and away the best safety available in the draft, still being available. I think Squicken and Cashman are dumb as bricks for passing on him and I could see about half of the teams ahead of Cincinnati taking a guy who is pretty much a lock to start and contribute day 1 (I think you'll hear a lot of teams linking themselves to him trying to get Dallas or St. Louis to move up for him) but Marvin Lewis will get the last laugh and Vaccarro will have a Harrison Smith type immediate impact.

He is a rare safety that can actually play at least decently in man, is a fantastic athlete with solid ball skills and isn't afraid to use his speed to fill a gap. Personally I think the kid is special. His draft stock fell mostly because he struggled to keep his motor running playing for a fuck-awful Texas team.

His strength is his weakness. He is over-aggressive and at times undisciplined. It leads to him being out of position when not given a specific assignment (so in zone...kind of a bummer in the Age of 2High). But, that aggressiveness, speed and raw talent will be a massive boon for a team with defensive gurus like Cincinnati. Lewis et al have been able to mold a number of raw, athletic, gifted piles of shit into absolute studs and I expect no different here.

 

[Bolt Vanderhuge]

I just read some interesting stuff on possible Ravens acquisitions. Put aside the Ravens hate, don't these moves actually improve our defense despite our loses?

Lose Old Man Ray, Old Man Ed, Carey Williams, Bernard Pollard, Paul Kruger, Dannell Ellerbe

Add Elvis Dumervil, Karlos Dansby, and Kerry Rhodes

Plus, a returning Lardarius Webb and Jameel McClain, Canty and Spears in the DL rotation ( thus removing Terrance Cody), possibly start Christian Thompson at safety, plus a possible draft pick

I see it as an improvement. Losing Boldin still hurts the O, but damn, if I'm not feeling optimistic as shit right now.

I LOVE YOU OZZIE!!!!!!!!

This is my favorite Larry.

 

[eznark]

Hey guys. Watch this video.

Adrian Peterson is one of the greatest players of all time. Disregard franchises, just watch it. This video is awesome.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9o1EUQDzYKI

Is this the video of him beating the shit out of that cop or of him calling NFL players slaves?

 

[squicken]

Vaccarro, .

I actually do like what he can do in the slot, and I could easily see the Rams taking him. I always have a hard time with Texas guys b/c they are always poorly coached. My thing with Vaccarro is that with STL, he would be playing a lot of single high safety. The Rams attacked SEA and SF (and did a good job) by bring Mikell to the LoS and blitzing him quite a bit. By the end of the year they were using lots of Cover 1 Robber like Chicago has morphed towards

So that deep safety is going to need to take good angles and have good ball skills. That's my big problem with Vaccarro. In the pass happy Big 12, he had 5 INTs in 50 games. For the Rams, I'm not drafting a safety in the first round who doesn't intercept passes. I think that tracking the ball is an innate skill that isn't really taught, and he just doesn't have it

 

[eznark]

I like him for the Bengals more than I do for most teams. Putting him in a backfield with Crocker, Jones, Hall and Newman and he is an immediate contributor. The experience and skill that they have in the secondary also allows for him to get lost a little bit. With the fairly weak vertical attack that is an issue for pretty much every AFC team, it'll be difficult to pick on a young FS too consistently. He'll also have Lewis and Zimmer coaching him up. Tough to ask for more.

I'm not terribly worried about his hands. He showed a knack for getting to the ball and defending passes. I haven't watched any film to know if his low INT totals were a result of people picking on this shitty Texas defenders elsewhere or if he just has stone hands.

His problem in Texas was poor coaching, and he was still the best safety in college. Put him with good coaches* and he'll be even better.

*Marvin Lewis, while generally ass on gameday, is great Tuesday through Saturday.

 

[Lee Chaolan]

Horrible horrible idea.

They will end up like the Vikings. They will redo their classic unis and over the course of five years everyone will hate them.

Then, once their contract is up they will switch back to their throwbacks. Just like the Vikings will this year.

I just want the Browns to go back to the uniforms pre-move. The shade of Brown was much better before the team was taken

Agree on the Vikings though, I much prefer the throwback.

 

[jmdajr]

Damn google animated image search is awesome!

hahaha, holy shit!

 

[bionic77]

You don't like Michael Jordan and you think the DS is the best console of the past decade. You are also wearing a Tom Brady avy and last year you had to wear a T-Sizzle avy.

In short, you have suspect decision-making ability.

Wide receivers are not worth a first round pick. This is even more true these days with the cap making it hard to resign good vets at multiple positions. You get your receiver in the 2nd or 3rd if you have a need. We really need some good picks on defense or this team is going to get worse in the next few years.

Also I am right about the DS and Jordan. I will admit to being reckless with avatar bets.

 

[Draxal]

Wide receivers are not worth a first round pick. This is even more true these days with the cap making it hard to resign good vets at multiple positions. You get your receiver in the 2nd or 3rd if you have a need. We really need some good picks on defense or this team is going to get worse in the next few years.

Also I am right about the DS and Jordan. I will admit to being reckless with avatar bets.

Seriously, DS was the best console, why buy PS3/360 games on the ps3/360 when you can get the much superior pc versions.

Luigi's Mansion: Dark Fate is fun so far, had a reallly really good first boss battle.

 

[squicken]

http://noahveltman.com/teams/

Click on the sport to see which stadium is closest to a particular area. Gives a rough idea of where teams market themselves "locally"