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NFL Preseason Thread!

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TheDuce22

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"Mcnabb was playing like total shit, they would've lost anyway."

He didnt look all that great in the 1st quarter but the eagles have always been slow starters. They were driving when he got knocked out with the cheap shot and could never really recover.
 

DarienA

The black man everyone at Activision can agree on
I'm not sure how I feel about this...

Sanders primed for return with Ravens?

Will a part-time role with the Ravens lure "Prime Time" out of retirement?

A league source yesterday told The Sun that Deion Sanders is contemplating whether to make a comeback as the Ravens' nickel back (fifth defensive back).

Sanders, one of the most charismatic athletes in sports and one of the greatest cornerbacks in NFL history, would address the biggest need on a vaunted Ravens defense.

A decision by Sanders is not imminent, the source added. Sanders, who turned 37 earlier this month, has been out of football for three seasons.

"To my knowledge, Deion Sanders is retired," Ravens coach Brian Billick said. "That kind of takes him off our radar. If he decides to unretire, like any number of other teams, we would be interested."

Sanders could not be reached for comment.

If Sanders decides to return for a 13th NFL season, the Ravens might be his most attractive destination. He would not only have a chance for a third Super Bowl ring but also would have the opportunity to play with two of his close friends, linebacker Ray Lewis and cornerback Corey Fuller. Plus, it would give Sanders an opportunity to get back into the spotlight after his television career fell apart this year.

The last time Sanders considered coming out of retirement was December 2002, when he expressed interest in playing for the playoff-bound Oakland Raiders. The San Diego Chargers blocked that cameo comeback by claiming Sanders off waivers (he was previously on the Washington Redskins' reserve-retired list).

It is unclear whether the Ravens would have to compensate the Chargers if Sanders chooses to play again.

Perhaps the bigger question is whether Sanders has anything left of "Prime Time" - the nickname he gave himself for repeatedly making big plays on national television - or if he's simply past his prime.

When he retired before the 2001 season, Sanders reportedly told the Redskins he did not want to continue playing because his performance was not up to his standards. His rocky relationship with then-Washington coach Marty Schottenheimer also factored into his decision.

Sanders' last NFL season (2000) was steady yet not sensational. He surrendered only one touchdown pass but seldom made the electric plays that were his trademark with the Atlanta Falcons, San Francisco 49ers and Dallas Cowboys.

An over-the-top showman, he is considered one of the most dynamic athletes of the 1990s. Sanders combined flair with talent: He was a seven-time Pro Bowl selection (1991-94, '96-98) who became the only pro athlete to play in both the World Series and the Super Bowl, and the only one to hit a homer and score a touchdown in a seven-day span.

His flamboyant persona - flashy jewelry and brash talk - often complemented his high-stepping theatrics on the field. He owns the NFL record with 18 touchdowns on returns (fumbles, kickoffs, punts and interceptions).

Originally the fifth overall pick by the Atlanta Falcons in 1989, Sanders spent one season with San Francisco (1994), helping the 49ers win the Super Bowl. He earned his only NFL Defensive Player of the Year award that season, despite joining the team late because of baseball.

In 1996, Sanders played regularly on both offense and defense for the Dallas Cowboys, becoming the NFL's first two-way starter since Chuck Bednarik in 1962. He is the only player in Super Bowl history to have both a pass reception and an interception.

Quarterbacks regularly threw to the opposite side of the field rather than risk Sanders' picking off a pass. He has 48 career interceptions, including eight returned for touchdowns.

Sanders' role with the Ravens would be more specialized.

He would only have to play in passing situations, joining starters Chris McAlister and Gary Baxter as the third cornerback. The nickel back position has been considered the weak link of the Ravens' defense since Dale Carter was lost for the season. Carter was diagnosed with a blood clot in his lungs just before training camp.

The Ravens' current options are to either go with Corey Fuller, a 33-year-old veteran who has admittedly lost a step, or Ray Walls, a four-year veteran who has played a total of 18 games. If Sanders decides to stay retired, the Ravens likely will look for another veteran defender to help at nickel when final cuts are made throughout the league closer to the regular season toward the end of this month.

It is unknown whether the Ravens would want Sanders to handle punt returns, a duty he stopped midway through his last season with the Redskins. Lamont Brightful is currently the Ravens' return specialist, but his fumbling problems have put his job in jeopardy.

After retiring from football, Sanders livened up CBS' The NFL Today for nearly three years. His run ended in May because he wanted $2 million and CBS offered $1 million.

A week later, ESPN fired Sanders as host of The New American Sportsman, saying it wants someone who hunts as well as fishes.

Sanders is now scheduled to co-host a sports-themed talk show, The Players' Lounge, with comedian Paul Rodriguez.
 

effzee

Member
soulja224466 said:
Mcnabb was playing like total shit, they would've lost anyway.



it was the 2nd qrt...lot of game left to play. u dont know if he would have continued to play bad or improved. i still would want a crappy mcnabb in then koy detmer.
 

DMczaf

Member
Woo! Bucs preseason game! Finally!

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Brad's happy trail is coming for you, Bengals!
 

Mrbob

Member
SUCK IT DOWN NFL!

http://www.chicagobears.com/news/newsDetail.jsp?id=2932

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Small tidbit:

Grossman, teammates meshing with offense
By Larry Mayer
August 16, 2004

BOURBONNAIS, Ill. - Looking more like a seasoned all-pro than an inexperienced quarterback learning a new offense, Rex Grossman demonstrated arm strength, accuracy and touch during Monday morning's training camp practice in Bourbonnais.

The second-year pro hit receiver Ahmad Merritt in stride on a bomb deep down the right sideline and later lofted a perfect touchdown pass to receiver David Terrell just over the outstretched hand of cornerback R.W. McQuarters in the right corner of the end zone.

(I'm) a little bit further ahead than I thought I'd be," Grossman said. "Personally, I feel more comfortable than I thought I would. I understand everything that we've installed in our offense pretty well and it's the second and third time we've gone through things. I feel like I'm at a good point in the learning process right now."

Grossman is leading us to the promised land!! 12-4 in 2004!!!
 
I don't know dude....I'll say 10-6 just to be on the safe side, but they WILL make the playoffs....granted that they stay relatively injury-free.
 

Mrbob

Member
I have a great feeling about Rex 'cause he is described as being a student of the game like Peyton Manning. Plus he has a better arm. :D And he is a winner. Hell, in his first game he beat the Vikings. That is one hell of an accomplishment. The Vikings aren't a pushover. The Vikings needed to win that game too. He went 2-1 as a starter. The team just responds with him in the pocket.

I can't wait till its midseason and ESPN/Madden have to readjust the Bears ofensive ratings in the mid 90s.
 

Mrbob

Member
Not me. The O Line is the strongest part of this team. Brown, Tait, Kreutz, that is damn solid. It's the D Line that worries me. They can't get any penetration.
 
Dude...I'm talking about the 2nd team O-line. But you are right about the 1st team D-line. Man, do I miss the days of Washington and Traylor taking on 4 O-men. :D
 
I'm most worried about our D Line being able to pressure the QB. We have a terrific secondary IMO and we need to utilize them by forcing passes. I'm also really excited about what our offense can do this year under Lovie. I think a lot of fans should be pleasantly suprised.
 
soulja224466 said:
im no bears expert. but if thursdays game was any indication, your oline is horrible.


That was are 2nd string O-line. The 1st only played the first series and opened up good holes for Jones.
 

Archaix

Drunky McMurder
I could watch that all day long.

No, really, I could. Today's my day off, and I've got nothing better to do.
 
you gotta love how Winslow is the one putting his all into the hit, and the guy from the Titans just brushes his ass aside with one nudge of the shoulder. No more steamrolling over 18 year olds anymore, "soldja" boy. Welcome to the pros.
 
Cmdr. Solrak said:
That was are 2nd string O-line. The 1st only played the first series and opened up good holes for Jones.

They didn't open any great holes for jones that I saw. His two big runs were all him. Like that one 25 yarder, he was stacked up behind the line, then reversed field and made it a big run all on his own.
 

Guileless

Temp Banned for Remedial Purposes
Eli will start Thursday night against the Carolina Kitty Kats.

The next ex-Florida QB to be successful in the NFL will be the first one. I just don't see it happening. Maybe I'm biased because I personally witnessed Grossman's worst-ever game at UF.
 

Wellington

BAAAALLLINNN'
I would like to put up my thoughts on last Friday's Giants game, though I did not see a single play. :/

7-13 91 yards for Manning is pretty good. Guess he was not as rattled by the shift to the NFL as some pundits thought. Thursday game against the Panthers will be more telling as it will now be against a first team defense.

First team defense for the G-Men SUCKS. SUCKS. I dunno how they are going to overcome this.

Ron Dayne did... alright. 11 carries 118 yards, but one was for 29 yards, another was for 67. A total of 96 yards in two carries.... leaving 9 yards for a total gain of 22!? IMO, he is lucky now he will get a bit more playtime Thursday, but he still has a long way to go.

...

...Yeah, kinda hurt by the fact that I missed the game ;p
 

Archaix

Drunky McMurder
skinnyrattler said:
It's getting to the point that preseason should be avoided like the plague.

Yes...they should just report to the first game with 7 months(9+ if they weren't a playoff team last year) of not having played, practiced, or worked out.

That'll certainly cut down on injuries.
 

Miguel

Member
Only Texans injuries so far...

4th String RB - Jason Anderson (Broken Leg IIRC)
Starting RB - Domanick Davis ("bumps and bruises") Should be ready for week 3 of preseason, vs Denver.
 

Guileless

Temp Banned for Remedial Purposes
From a Giants practice report:

Ike Hilliard seemed awed by the throw Manning made at the end of practice yesterday. In the two-minute drill, Manning threw a perfect strike to back left corner of the end zone to Hilliard, who caught the ball despite being closely guarded by Brent Alexander.

“I didn’t think he would see me, first and foremost,” Hilliard said. “I didn’t know if he would have the time to see it all unfold. He made the read as soon as he saw the corner cut it, and he put it on the back pylon. It was an unbelievable throw.”
 
I would like to put up my thoughts on last Friday's Giants game, though I did not see a single play. :/

7-13 91 yards for Manning is pretty good. Guess he was not as rattled by the shift to the NFL as some pundits thought. Thursday game against the Panthers will be more telling as it will now be against a first team defense.

First team defense for the G-Men SUCKS. SUCKS. I dunno how they are going to overcome this.

Ron Dayne did... alright. 11 carries 118 yards, but one was for 29 yards, another was for 67. A total of 96 yards in two carries.... leaving 9 yards for a total gain of 22!? IMO, he is lucky now he will get a bit more playtime Thursday, but he still has a long way to go.

Yeah putting Manning up against the Panthers 1st team defense will be a significant test to see if he really is progressing as fast as he appears. He's handled the pressure well up untill this point but it's going to get a lot tougher on Eli from here on out.

The Giants defense definitly had a weak showing against the Chiefs. It didn't help that Greisen went down so quickly with an injury and that Carlos Emmons and William Joseph weren't on the field. The Front 4 are where the preasure is going to have to come from until the linebacker corps. is up to full strength and they seemed to have a tough time against the Chief's O-line. I'd like to see if they can break through against Carolina whose offensive line is going through some transition.

And as for Dayne, you're right, his sudden bursts of speed overshadowed his continuing struggles with short-yardage. The offensive line and Dayne have some work to do in that area. Still, it was encouraging to see him out there in shape and with a renewed sense of purpose.
 

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BWAHAHAHA. Please tell me THIS story is real.

“I just want to say that the people from GLADD are very, very nice people,” said Garcia at a press conference yesterday. “They have supported me 100 percent, and always come to my defense when someone makes an allegation about my sexuality. That being said, I’d rather they just leave me alone. I’m trying to prove I’m straight here, and this isn’t helping.”
 
...bastards.

this one should have tipped me off
“Truthfully, I don’t know if the guy is gay or not,” said Owens. “That’s his business. I was just answering a question posed to me by someone in the media. And I certainly don’t feel the need to take back what I said. I meant it. If it looks like a rat and smells like a rat, it’s probably a rat. In other words, I’m a homo.”
 

Mrbob

Member
Guileless said:
Eli will start Thursday night against the Carolina Kitty Kats.

The next ex-Florida QB to be successful in the NFL will be the first one. I just don't see it happening. Maybe I'm biased because I personally witnessed Grossman's worst-ever game at UF.

Grossman will be the first. Eventually a Florida QB has to turn into a superstar in the NFL. His knowledge for the game and how easy he picks up on the details is amazing. Plus he has a rocket for an arm. He seems to know how to make good decisions too on the field. Now I'm not ready to elevate him to elite status yet. But if he turns out anything but spectacular I will be surprised.
 

andthebeatgoeson

Junior Member
Archaix said:
Yes...they should just report to the first game with 7 months(9+ if they weren't a playoff team last year) of not having played, practiced, or worked out.

That'll certainly cut down on injuries.

You know what the hell I mean. :p People blowing out their ACL in practice. WTF?
 

Archaix

Drunky McMurder
skinnyrattler said:
You know what the hell I mean. :p People blowing out their ACL in practice. WTF?

Actually I didn't know what you meant. This was a non contact drill, it's not like he took a bad hit, he just planted his foot wrong. Injuries like that can't be avoided.
 

Archaix

Drunky McMurder
Dammit, Kendall Simmons is quickly becoming the unluckiest guard in the league. Last year he was diagnosed with diabetes and had to lose a hell of a lot of weight, to the point where he was useless. This year he came back with more muscle weight, and he tore his ACL.

Well, there goes the hopes of the right guard spot being set for this year.
 
Archaix said:
Dammit, Kendall Simmons is quickly becoming the unluckiest guard in the league. Last year he was diagnosed with diabetes and had to lose a hell of a lot of weight, to the point where he was useless. This year he came back with more muscle weight, and he tore his ACL.

Well, there goes the hopes of the right guard spot being set for this year.


Yeah, that just sucks complete ass. They were playing with fire by not really addressing depth on the oline in the offseason and they just got burned.
 

Fifty

Member
Tomorrow night's game (CBS, 8:00 EST, Ravens @ Eagles) should be awesome...and even if it's not, I have to make the most of it, seeing as how it's the only Ravens preseason game I can get on TV here. :D
 

Archaix

Drunky McMurder
Christ, the Giants defense is making the Panthers offense look unstoppable.

First and twenty and they went for about 40. Yeah, way to play defense.
 
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