NFS Most Wanted Vita - Developed by Criterion, not dumbed down or cut content
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Yeah, I'm really hoping this sells well. I know it's getting a sale from me. We have to support stuff like this.
Trust in Criterion. They are beasts with tech. I don't think I've ever seen slowdown in any of their games.
Shining Sunshine
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PSY・S;41116859 said:
It comes bundled with a Porsche purchase.
But does it come with a memory card?
Schobeleth
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I also trust Criterion. They are amazingly talented and this is everything I could want in a Vita racer. Open world, not consolidated at all with features, just pure brilliance.
Also, if my memory serves me right, I remember going max speed on the best bike in Burnout: Paradise and having the game lock up for a second to load the map - but maybe I'm thinking of another racer ... but I'm pretty sure it was Paradise. I didn't complain, I knew I was literally going max speed, probably the fastest possible in the game, and I usually crash soon after because that bike is just so insane.
I hope they eventually add bikes to NFS: MW. I can see them adding a lot of stuff post launch, just like they did with Paradise. Also, that remix of Baba O'Reilly in the multiplayer trailer has me hoping they use that as the theme song for MW.
I'm curious as to how you came to that conclusion?
Pic with person playing looks absolutely fantastic.
Can you blame them with the rampant asshole pirates that devalued the system.
Iacobellis
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I want them to, same for Battlefield. Imagine 24 player matches with tanks and air vehicles.
michaelius
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My jaw dropped seeing those screens 
I suspected that with no cut content the graphics will be victim like in Mortal Kombat. And lack of screenshots made it even more likeble.
I suspected that with no cut content the graphics will be victim like in Mortal Kombat. And lack of screenshots made it even more likeble.
SirIgbyCeaser
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Not even consoles get that right? Vita BF by the looks of it could only be 6v6 at most.
Kong Fisso
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Criterion are our saviors, our gods.
acheron_xl
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I loved Paradise, so I'll day 1 this on Vita just to cast my vote of support for the concept of not farming out your portable ports.
Canis lupus
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I was not interested in the console version but the Vita port looks really good! I might get this for my racing fix.
shinobi602
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I don't understand what the amazement is about...this is precisely what I expect from the Vita given its specs. It should not be hard to get games looking like this.
LiquidMetal14
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I'm not even used to seeing great looking games on handhelds. This happened with PSP and I can't wait to see tons of games on that HW and screen. This looks 1:1 with the console versions. That alone is exciting.
Mihos
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I am with you. Even when I am at home with the family, I can play my portable while the wife watches TV.
shinobi602
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I wouldn't go that far...
At least they are not porting 3DS version to Vita... like some developers [Codermasters].
michaelius
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Because sadly some devs prefer to port inferior iOS or 3DS versions to Vita.
The Elite
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Since launch, we haven't seen anything of this quality. In the meantime all the naysayers have seen subpar graphical releases and assumed that is all the system was capable of.
At launch, there were a few games that showed off the Vita's abilities. Not to this level, but what NFS:MW is doing is not unexpected.
Also, this.
jimmythepage
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One can only hope for Polyphony to follow them, racing games are wonderfully playable on VITA
shinobi602
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I understand and agree, but I guess my reaction is more towards being underwhelmed by these previous lackluster looking games than overwhelmed by NFS Vita, as this type of visuals is exactly what I expected from the system given its CPU/GPU and other specs.
You probably weren't looking very hard then. Wipeout is insanely good-looking for one and that was out ages ago!
It was really nice to read how Criterion wanted to get the positive rep for the NFS MW Vita game - once they looked at the specs. That's what skilled, competent developers who are confident in themselves should be doing.
It was really nice to read how Criterion wanted to get the positive rep for the NFS MW Vita game - once they looked at the specs. That's what skilled, competent developers who are confident in themselves should be doing.
Metalmurphy
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How come no one recorded a video? Those screens look amazing.
legacyzero
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THIS is why I own a Vita.
Devs need to follow this example.
Devs need to follow this example.
I felt the same way at launch minus the few exceptions. Made me wonder if any of the Vita's components are underclocked.
Man-is-Obsolete
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In the end some developers are just leaps and bounds ahead of others. It's good to see some of those take the vita seriously, now we just need more.
CamHostage
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Agreed, to a point. The Vita is strong and I expect more PS3-quality effects and engine-work, and when it's a port I don't expect it to be a port-up of lesser platform versions, I expect a port-down of the HD version (grrr, Lego Batman 2...) with the appropriate features intact and with a reasonable conversion of assets. Where storage and horsepower cannot match another platform's feature set, I can understand (and will vote with my dollars how much slack of understanding I'm willing to offer,) but I expect the platform to be used to its abilities.
That said, it's not just a PS3 with a screen attached. Vita is its own system, with graphical limitations against what is possible on heavier and more electricity-hungry consoles, and when we're talking bleeding-edge games (which is what I expect from Criterion until the end of the Earth,) it's hard to expect a 1:1 translation despite wanting it desperately with every fiber in my being.
The other aspect to consider is that Vita games tend to be $10-20 less than their console counterparts because customers have that expectation that handheld games should be cheaper. If a game is going to cost less and it's going to sell fewer copies and it's on hardware with less capacity, expecting it to still be just as good (plus bonus features like touch implementation and Near) is hard pressure to put on a developer. The fact that it's happening here is something worthy of great praise, no matter what expectations might be.
Criterion are a quality dev, so this doesn't surprise me one bit that they're doing an excellent job with the Vita version. Burnout Legends on PSP was a lot of fun and did justice to the series on a handheld.
They did some sensational stuff with Burnout Paradise to turn it from a very good game to an excellent game and kept rewarding gamers with fantastic content. They really won me over with that game as a developer who would go the distance. (not to mention all the other brilliant burnout games and the underrated Black)
They did some sensational stuff with Burnout Paradise to turn it from a very good game to an excellent game and kept rewarding gamers with fantastic content. They really won me over with that game as a developer who would go the distance. (not to mention all the other brilliant burnout games and the underrated Black)
CamHostage
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I can't seem to find my copy, but I'm 85% sure that both Burnout Legends and Burnout Dominator were done by EA UK (despite the credits to Criterion on some sites to both, not just Dominator.) Not sure it matters to this thread, but that's a common confusion. There were Criterion guys who transferred over to the expanding EA UK at the time though (it was part of EA's "Team Fusion" process at the time, which PSP fans know from some EA Canada games but apparently it was a wider initiative than that) and it did use the Renderware engine. Regardless, there's only been one not-amazing Burnout, that was the tragic DS game by an outside developer that's long since been forgotten about.
I thought Criterion did Legends and another EA developer did Dominator?
Been a while since I played either though, so you might be right.
BruiserBear
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I think that quote from Criterion saying the Vita wasn't as powerful as they were lead to believe, is very interesting. Thinking back on the Vita software lineup so far, with that thought in mind, I've got a theory to throw out there.
My Theory:
Sony gave developers specs to work with, and maybe even a development kit that worked on regular PC's and simulated these supposed Vita specs. So developers, including Criterion began working on Vita games in early 2011. Then, as the launch approached, Sony showed up with the exact specs and they were a notch below what Sony had told developers earlier. What's the easiest way to make your game run smoother at the last minute? Drop the native resolution.
The fact that Criterion made a point in saying "we were lead to believe" makes me think they were told one thing, and then later had that changed on them. I've found it strange how many Vita games so far have run at a sub native res, and this would pretty much explain why that happened.
My Theory:
Sony gave developers specs to work with, and maybe even a development kit that worked on regular PC's and simulated these supposed Vita specs. So developers, including Criterion began working on Vita games in early 2011. Then, as the launch approached, Sony showed up with the exact specs and they were a notch below what Sony had told developers earlier. What's the easiest way to make your game run smoother at the last minute? Drop the native resolution.
The fact that Criterion made a point in saying "we were lead to believe" makes me think they were told one thing, and then later had that changed on them. I've found it strange how many Vita games so far have run at a sub native res, and this would pretty much explain why that happened.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
You also have to consider the launch batch of games is just that, launch games. Even only at 6~ months in (in the west) we're seeing games look better and better. I haven't seen extreme cases of lower than native res so for the most part, things still look amazing on the OLED. I think it's great that we're already seeing this kind of parity (even with obvious technical compromises) at this point in Vita's life.
HocusPocus
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Looks nice. If I had a VITA I would be all over it.
looking closely at the hoods aliasing/weird texture id say these arent bullshots (prob looks 100 times better on vita screen and youd barely notice it)
If this is render resolution, then there will be little alisasing on 5" Vita screen, but not much.
Golden Abyss for example is rendered @ 720x408!
Impeccable
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I don't like racing games... but shit. That looks great.
Same here ! But I'll get the game anyhow.
Schobeleth
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looking closely at the hoods aliasing/weird texture id say these arent bullshots (prob looks 100 times better on vita screen and youd barely notice it)
Well most games on Vita tend to look weird in screenshots, at least to me. Then, when you see it in motion, it's a whole different ball game. I couldn't be more excited for this game - again, I'll reiterate that I hope they use that remix of Baba O'Reilly for the game's theme
