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NHL 13 GM Connected Sim League (Xbox 360)

Socreges

Banned
Trade discussion on the night of the Final. Hah

Are we allowed to trade with CPU controlled teams?
Yes... kinda. Smiley and I are going to post a brief but comprehensive explanation tonight or tomorrow so that everyone is on the same page with respect to the rules. Nothing new. Just for clarity.
 

theRizzle

Member
Thanks for that Soc. I was going to ask if we could get some clarification.

CCF, I will have a look at my roster and send you a message about Tootoo.
 

CCF23

Member
look at phoenix. got a lot of young c's. are either hall or kane available? also jackman looks interesting. willing to swap d's. interested in streit?

I'll be keeping both Hall and Kane barring an overpayment. I'm not sure about Streit. Jackman is available, but I'd like to get younger.

CCF, I will have a look at my roster and send you a message about Tootoo.

Sweet. Let me know.
 

Socreges

Banned
CCF, I will have a look at my roster and send you a message about Tootoo.

Sweet. Let me know.
What normally happens in the NHL with respect to negotiating 'sign and trades' with upcoming UFAs? Seems pretty sketchy and unrealistic, no?

That's my opinion, but maybe I'm wrong. Hoping to open discussion here before CCF gets too deep into negotiations.

[edit] Also worth pointing out that guys could severely decline (I don't think Tootoo will) and even retire (eg, Doan).
 

CCF23

Member
What normally happens in the NHL with respect to negotiating 'sign and trades' with upcoming UFAs? Seems pretty sketchy and unrealistic, no?

That's my opinion, but maybe I'm wrong. Hoping to open discussion here before CCF gets too deep into negotiations.

[edit] Also worth pointing out that guys could severely decline (I don't think Tootoo will) and even retire (eg, Doan).

Is Tootoo an upcoming UFA? I haven't even looked.

I'm more just trying to make my intentions known. I'll wait to enter into any real talks about trades until we're actually allowed to trade.
 

Socreges

Banned
Is Tootoo an upcoming UFA? I haven't even looked.
Yeah. A bunch of your players are upcoming UFAs, which is both good and bad. Guys like Tootoo (76 overall) are normally very easy to replace through free agency, and can even be got on 2-way contracts, but it can be really difficult to replace higher end players ( > 80) since they get so much interest.

I'm more just trying to make my intentions known. I'll wait to enter into any real talks about trades until we're actually allowed to trade.
Fair enough. Definitely no problem discussing trades for guys under contract, though, imo. It happens in real life (even when it shouldn't), so why not here. But I think 'sign and trades' are something that should be dealt with first since it raises problems.
 

Smiley90

Stop shitting on my team. Start shitting on my finger.
To be fair, technically we're still before the SCF, so if this was real life, Tootoo COULD be traded on draft day and wouldn't be a sign&trade. Since that's not possible in the game as we sim final&draft at the same time, I think it's fair game to do a trade like that, esp if it's agreed upon before draft day.

In real life, can you trade UFA negotiating rights? Does that concept even exist? I know RFA rights can be traded before July1st, UFA-rights aren't a thing, or are they?
 

theRizzle

Member
All valid points, but it was just going to be a 1 for 1 swap for a 4th line player. I only want Tootoo 'cause I've met him a few times when I lived up north and I liked him in Junior.

I didn't realize he was a UFA and was planning on waiting until the ratings rollover anyways.
 

Socreges

Banned
Bryzgalov was traded as a UFA and then signed with Philly, for example. It does happen. But it's rare because there's no assurance that the player will negotiate in good faith with the team that just traded assets for him.
 

Smiley90

Stop shitting on my team. Start shitting on my finger.
if the 8th seed in the West wins the cup after eliminating the President's Trophy Canucks... this game reaches unprecedented levels of realism.

!!!!!

Also, Marvie simmed the SCF and then made me commissioner, so given we set the deadline for Draft Priority for 11pm PST, that's when I'll sim the draft.

Congratz Random! Send me your steam nick, and pick a game between:

Max Payne 3
RAGE
Crysis 2 Maximum Edition

!

@Marvie:

Big-Boss-Salute.jpg
 
that's right. the start of a new dynasty.
cant call it too much of an upset though. look at my team (with minimal injuries too boot)

Code:
        LW                        C                       RW
Lucic (PWF, 88)      Kane (SNP, 89)        Gaborik (SNP, 88)
Ladd (PWF, 82)      Duchene (PLY, 87)      Frolik (SNP, 83)
Bordson (TWF, 78)     RNH (PLY, 82)     Hodgson (PLY, 82)
Shinnimin (PLY, 71)     Bass (GRN, 71)  Tanev (TWD, 75)
        
        LD                        RD
Hainsey (TWD, 86)     Burns (TWD, 87)
Streit (OFD. 83)       Demers (TWD, 83)
Gudbranson (DFD, 77)    Polak (DFD, 79)
       
        G
Mason (84)
Harding (80)
 

Smiley90

Stop shitting on my team. Start shitting on my finger.
that's right. the start of a new dynasty.
cant call it too much of an upset though. look at my team (with minimal injuries too boot)

Code:
        LW                        C                       RW
Lucic (PWF, 88)      Kane (SNP, 89)        Gaborik (SNP, 88)
Ladd (PWF, 82)      Duchene (PLY, 87)      Frolik (SNP, 83)
Bordson (TWF, 78)     RNH (PLY, 82)     Hodgson (PLY, 82)
Shinnimin (PLY, 71)     Bass (GRN, 71)  Tanev (TWD, 75)
        
        LD                        RD
Hainsey (TWD, 86)     Burns (TWD, 87)
Streit (OFD. 83)       Demers (TWD, 83)
Gudbranson (DFD, 77)    Polak (DFD, 79)
       
        G
Mason (84)
Harding (80)

Goddamnit, dat Center-depth is BRUTAL.

Also, why do you keep Tanev on the 4th line, that's giving me mad Andrew-Alberts-is-a-forward vibes.

Damn your first... 3 lines are brutal. and your first 2 D-lines. How were you only 8th in the regular season?!?
 

Socreges

Banned
that's right. the start of a new dynasty.
cant call it too much of an upset though. look at my team (with minimal injuries too boot)

Code:
        LW                        C                       RW
Lucic (PWF, 88)      Kane (SNP, 89)        Gaborik (SNP, 88)
Ladd (PWF, 82)      Duchene (PLY, 87)      Frolik (SNP, 83)
Bordson (TWF, 78)     RNH (PLY, 82)     Hodgson (PLY, 82)
Shinnimin (PLY, 71)     Bass (GRN, 71)  Tanev (TWD, 75)
        
        LD                        RD
Hainsey (TWD, 86)     Burns (TWD, 87)
Streit (OFD. 83)       Demers (TWD, 83)
Gudbranson (DFD, 77)    Polak (DFD, 79)
       
        G
Mason (84)
Harding (80)
Well you definitely upset my Canucks, though maybe injuries made the rosters fairly even
 
Goddamnit, dat Center-depth is BRUTAL.

Also, why do you keep Tanev on the 4th line, that's giving me mad Andrew-Alberts-is-a-forward vibes.

Damn your first... 3 lines are brutal. and your first 2 D-lines. How were you only 8th in the regular season?!?

too be fair, that was my beginning season roster. just pulled up an older post.
it was fixed up as the season progressed (called up mackinnon pretty much)
no idea how I was 8th. was about to blow my team up
 

Smiley90

Stop shitting on my team. Start shitting on my finger.
Get knocked out in the first round... still pick 26th. The pain a Canucks fan knows too well.

Ohgod yes :lol

Also, I felt I needed to post this here:

Code:
SpectreFire: Are you going to even bother setting draft priority?
smiley_1790: Of course
smiley_1790: I already did it days ago
smiley_1790: I don't want another goalie by accident :lol
smiley_1790: Set all the wingers first
smiley_1790: Goalies at very end
SpectreFire: Wait
SpectreFire: I thought you can only do the top 30?
smiley_1790: ... no...
smiley_1790: you can do 7 rounds
smiley_1790: of players
smiley_1790: (not that I do all 7 rounds, because who cares about 2star players)
smiley_1790: I usually do up to all 3.5star prospects
SpectreFire is now Away.
SpectreFire is now Online.
SpectreFire: Thanks
SpectreFire: I just spent the last few minutes updating DRAFT PRIOTYT INSTEAD OF PAPER WRITING
SpectreFire: CUNT
 

Socreges

Banned
Stanley Cup - Phoenix Coyotes
Presidents Trophy - Vancouver Canucks
Clarence Campbell Bowl - Phoenix Coyotes
Prince of Wales Trophy - New York Rangers
Art Ross - Daniel Sedin (MIN)
Hart - Pekka Rinne (NYR)
Norris - Nick Leddy (VAN) - !!
Lady Byng - Zach Parise (VAN)
Calder - Jonathan Huberdeau (FLA)
Conn Smythe - Steve Mason (PHX) - lol
Vezina - Pekka Rinne (NYR)
Jennings - Pekka Rinne (NYR)
Masterton - Duncan Keith - dunno which team
Selke - Pavel Datsyuk (COL)
Lindsay - Pekka Rinne (NYR) - four trophies total
Richard - Ovechkin (CHI) - third consecutive season
 

Smiley90

Stop shitting on my team. Start shitting on my finger.
Stanley Cup - Phoenix Coyotes
Presidents Trophy - Vancouver Canucks
Clarence Campbell Bowl - Phoenix Coyotes
Prince of Wales Trophy - New York Rangers
Art Ross - Daniel Sedin (MIN)
Hart - Pekka Rinne (NYR)
Norris - Nick Leddy (VAN) - !!
Lady Byng - Zach Parise (VAN)
Calder - Jonathan Huberdeau (FLA)
Conn Smythe - Steve Mason (PHX) - lol
Vezina - Pekka Rinne (NYR)
Jennings - Pekka Rinne (NYR)
Masterton - Duncan Keith - dunno which team
Selke - Pavel Datsyuk (COL)
Lindsay - Pekka Rinne (NYR) - four trophies total
Richard - Ovechkin (CHI) - third consecutive season

Goddamn I feel there's a "based" comment in this.

Also, Rinne brutally stealing the show.
 

Smiley90

Stop shitting on my team. Start shitting on my finger.
Uhhh, I'm not seeing NeoGAF Sim League under "My Leagues" all of a sudden. Did you select "Delete League" instead of "Sim League"?

Fuck I always knew those options shouldn't be next to each other

:lol I haven't even SEEN an option to delete league...
 

Smiley90

Stop shitting on my team. Start shitting on my finger.
Time to look at my shitty draft picks!

Are we going straight through to the first day of player re-signs?

You'll have time to submit offers to your players 3 times - tonight until tmrw evening will be the first period. So, to answer your question... yes.


Seeing as how the only purpose of the post-SCF sim is to set draft priority rankings, and we've been able to do that for a few days now, we're probably going to sim it right after the SCF sim, like we did with the last season. So:

Make sure you've got your draft priority list finalized by 11pm PST Monday night

The draft and development/decline stats will be simmed at that time, or shortly after, and the resign phase will begin.

Tonight: Conference Finals
Monday: Stanley Cup Finals
Monday: 2015 Draft
Tuesday: Resign day
Wednesday: Resign day
Thursday: Resign day
Friday: Offseason (free agency/trades)
Saturday: Offseason (free agency/trades)
Sunday: Offseason (free agency/trades)
Monday: 2015/16 season begins

Did Marvie already approve you as new GM? I didn't see a notice/did you apply already?
 
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