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NHL October 2017 [OT]- Kneelin' and dealin'
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Zombie James
Banned
The Habs should hold off on any trades until they get a new GM.
CreeperBlocks
Banned
He wasnt worth it... he wasnt worth it at all Soc
Considering all the talk about how this year was a make or break year for Sonny Milano before he was sent off to the island of misfit draft busts, it's beautiful to see him put up 4 goals in 3 games and look like the skillful NHL winger people hoped he would become. Brings a tear to my eye.
Who?
He probably just has you on ignore.
CreeperBlocks
Banned
Pacioretty - Drouin - Lehkonen
Byron - Plekanec - Gallagher
Hudon - Danault - Shaw
Galchenyuk - Mitchell - Hemsky
De La Rose
Mete - Weber
Alzner - Petry
Benn - Davidson
Morrow - Streit
Schlemko
Price
Montoya
Galchenyuk gets demoted big time. I dont think this will light a match under him though.
Byron - Plekanec - Gallagher
Hudon - Danault - Shaw
Galchenyuk - Mitchell - Hemsky
De La Rose
Mete - Weber
Alzner - Petry
Benn - Davidson
Morrow - Streit
Schlemko
Price
Montoya
Galchenyuk gets demoted big time. I dont think this will light a match under him though.
It's really such a clusterfuck of shit.
Though Weise did set up Patrick nicely for his first NHL goal.
Goddamn, just trade Gally already, it's hard watching him get demoted every 2 weeks.
dr.rocktopus
Banned
Was checking prices for Stars/Canes next Saturday, since I'll be in Dallas for work. $15USD upper bowl tickets, literally the cost of a (bigger) beer and $2 tip at the ACC. I hate Toronto pricing.
Reckheim
Member
Godfatther is going to get it done.
No he wont, the lineup will look very different in 2 years time.
You should probably trade Gardiner to Chicago then. We'll give you Seabrook. He's locked up long term so you don't have to worry about that.
CreeperBlocks
Banned
On Friedmans Thoughts today
YES PLEASE, we will also take Zetterburg too
YES PLEASE, we will also take Zetterburg too
ElephantShell
Banned
Gardiner better stick around. He's our best defenseman by a mile.
dr.rocktopus
Banned
cost effective is the guys we have in the system already.
I don't even know who I'd keep between JVR and Bozak. We have winger depth, so that implies Bozak...but he's defensively porous.
I hope we keep Gardiner 🙏
SolidSnakeUS
Member
I think Weise got more lucky than anything on that play. Patrick being in the right place for that though was definitely him noticing the chance and being in position.
But yeah, holy fuck do I want Hak gone. Make Knob the full time coach. Hell, I want them to replace Lappy too.
He's playing like shit. But so are 11 other forwards. So why is it always Galchenyuk who is punished? Why no repercussions, ever, for the real golden boy, Max, when he floats for 20 straight games? Why no repercussions when Danault went 20 something games at 1C last year between goals?
Demote Galchenyuk, and it's a day ending in "y". Demote Casperetty or a francophone? They'd scream bloody murder.
Reckheim
Member
I agree, Rielly has been a huge disappointment this year so far. I'd take Zaitsev over Rielly at this point as well.
because Casperetty and Danault are 100x better than Galchenyuk right now, he's the worst player on this team so far he's fucking trash it's disgusting
CreeperBlocks
Banned
Hes a turnover machine and gives little effort
Unhandled Exception
Member
Y'all about to fall real hard into the trap Sakic has set for a Duchene trade
And I'm 100% fine with trading Galchenyuk, but if that's the desire/plan, its yet another complete and utter failure by management. They could have sold him a year ago high instead of for peanuts now. Because after the injury, MT/Clode's position/line juggling of him, that's at best what you're going to get. They will get fleeced so hard on that trade.
Are you for real? Take the blinders off man - all 3 have been absolute dogshit. To the same level. Let's see someone, anyone else see consequences for once.
It's clear to me that Claude hates him even more than Therrien did - and that was a lot.
yeah like we got "fleeced" with Beaulieu who's still turning the puck over faster than he can down a bottle of Jack Daniels
not even close, both of them can at least pretend to backcheck at times
Galchentrash is too busy trying to deke himself out of the play
not even close, both of them can at least pretend to backcheck at times
Galchentrash is too busy trying to deke himself out of the play
oh no that situation is fucked, we're getting jackshit for him
but I don't think he's gonna turn into Conor McDavid on another team. He's gonna look great for 3 games and end up on the 3rd or 4th line 2 months later, because that's where he belongs
or on a 1st line in the KHL with Sherbust
I'm not saying he's going to morph into another player either. But I see no reason he can't consistently be a 60 point guy on another team. That's of course assuming he isn't so mentally fragile by this point that he can't find his game again elsewhere.
Because he's not a 60 point guy
not any more than Byron is a 20 goal scorer
not any more than Beleskey is a 20+ goal scorer
getting remotely close to doing something once doesn't mean that's who you are
again he got 56 points ONCE, 30 goals, 30% of those were scored in a week over 4 games when we were already eliminated. Lars Eller scored 4 goals once too, Jan Bulis scored 4 goals once, Hertl scored 4 goals once, etc. None of them are viewed as "wasted #1 centers wahhh"
The other thing no one seems to want to talk about is that Drouin so far as just as much of a liability defensively as AGally was at centre, and just as bad at faceoffs. But, he's french so we'll never hear about that......
Don't get me wrong, he's a better player and more complete player than AGally and a much harder worker, but based on the games so far (I know it hasn't been many, but to be fair its about the same number of games AGally typically got at centre before being yanked to wing), Drouin seems like a PP specialist, and has had no effect on improving our 5v5 play.
Double standards abound.
Don't get me wrong, he's a better player and more complete player than AGally and a much harder worker, but based on the games so far (I know it hasn't been many, but to be fair its about the same number of games AGally typically got at centre before being yanked to wing), Drouin seems like a PP specialist, and has had no effect on improving our 5v5 play.
Double standards abound.
get the fuck out of here with that "but he's french" trash, unless you're actively listening to Quebec City radio this has nothing to do with anything it's a lazy excuse for lazy journalists
Just last night Drouin did 2 amazing back checks, that's 2 more than Galchenyuk ever did in his career
Yes he did, and I praised him for it. Nice hustle to get back in the neutral zone and strip Saad.
Doesn't change him being lost in his own end ala Chucky though.
And like Chucky, Drouin will inevitably be moved to the wing. Because we still don't have a #1C.
All of this infighting comes back around to the same underlying point - Bergevin has failed to build this team and needs to be fired immediately.
Doesn't change him being lost in his own end ala Chucky though.
And like Chucky, Drouin will inevitably be moved to the wing. Because we still don't have a #1C.
All of this infighting comes back around to the same underlying point - Bergevin has failed to build this team and needs to be fired immediately.
we can basically all agree on that, that Bergevin dropped the ball and now we look like garbo with no prospect pool whatsoever
It's like Bergevin is stuck in the 1980's. The NHL is a fast, young league that is only getting faster and younger. We had the fastest team in the east like what, 2 short years ago? Now he's filled out the roster with slow old guys who can't move the puck and made us the slowest team in the east.
Also from Friedge's 31 Thoughts:
I can sorta understand why Dorion is going to haggle on term (if salary is indeed a non-issue), you don't want to be hamstrung by these contracts down the road when it comes time to re-up your young players and you're stuck still playing declining older players. Still, I wonder what the asks actually are. It's easy to guess that Turris' camp want something like 7-8 years, but exactly what is Dorion trying to get? 4? 5? 6 years?
I can sorta understand why Dorion is going to haggle on term (if salary is indeed a non-issue), you don't want to be hamstrung by these contracts down the road when it comes time to re-up your young players and you're stuck still playing declining older players. Still, I wonder what the asks actually are. It's easy to guess that Turris' camp want something like 7-8 years, but exactly what is Dorion trying to get? 4? 5? 6 years?
I am guessing 4-5 years should be the term for him.
Wasn't there some crazy rumor about him being potentially dealt in the preseason for Fabbri before he got hurt?
I need to lay off the sens blogs.
ElephantShell
Banned
This might not be true but I heard yesterday that the Sens want 5 and Turris wants 6 or 7. If I'm the Sens Id just lock him up. He's a great player one or two extra years wont kill you.
SensChirp says St Louis did have serious interest and Friedman says that Turris' absence from the start of the preseason could be because there was trade talks involving him, so there could be something to that.
I just want to point out that Galchenyuk had 44 points in 61 games last season, a season by many considered to be terrible for him, but he would have bested his previous year in points.
Of course no matter what I say somebody will throw a qualifier onto it, like he's terrible defensively, or that he posts selfies on Instagram or something.
He's been awful this season, don't get me wrong, but after they trade him(and they will), the blame will just move onto the next player. Such is the way in Montreal, unless they're on a 10 game win streak.
Of course no matter what I say somebody will throw a qualifier onto it, like he's terrible defensively, or that he posts selfies on Instagram or something.
He's been awful this season, don't get me wrong, but after they trade him(and they will), the blame will just move onto the next player. Such is the way in Montreal, unless they're on a 10 game win streak.
If these are the asks, then I'm more confidant that the Sens and Turris will come to terms with a new deal. Dorion has been a very shrewd negotiator during his time in Sens management and usually ends up getting something done in the end.