butter_stick
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The power of Mario 3D Land :bow
Nintendo 3DS Crosses 4 Million Mark; two million sellers (US)
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ShinNL
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I'm not sure where I got the press release but I'm sure it was mentioned several times, so someone could find the exact quote.
But I think Nintendo's original plan was for third parties to have great sales during the holidays, releasing Super Mario 3D Land and Mario Kart 7 makes it very hard for third parties to top it. In a sense, releasing these games so early in the life cycle means third parties will sell less than if those games were released after they got their REs and MGSs out.
radioheadrule83
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I'm inclined to agree. Somehow analysts will spin it into super negative news too, despite the now great momentum, and the 10 million or so lead on the competition.
Gianni Merryman
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Yeah, they were having quite unreasonably high expectations, by the way I reckon investors are not as much interested in units sold as in total revenues, so if they were expecting to sell 16 millions 3DS at 250$/€ - and not at a loss - they've have got another thing coming.
Hm. You know, this should put 3DS at ~12 million sold worldwide right now. Nothing to scoff at.
I'm going to e-mail that CNET writer. Ha-ha!
Okay, not really.
EDIT: Double post. fucking shit
WrenchNinja
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Price drop, black friday and two Marios, perfect storm for sales. Good that its doing well now.
No, 3DS total shipments should be at 15 million range through last quarter, maybe more.
More unit sold in its first nine months than Wii did?
What?
It beats not only the DS, but the Wii!?
You have to remember that supply was so constrained for Wii during that time that you have to wonder if Nintendo choked supply on purpose. As a result, it didn't have impressive holiday numbers in November and December 2006.
Because they'd need to ship ~7 million in the next quarter. That's not realistic.
You think they have that much unsold stock? 3 million unsold consoles just sitting in stores is not good at all.
frankie_baby
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Mario kart only sold 1 million in one month, compared to 100 million free downloads of angry birds
DOOMED
Frankfurter
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Depends. ~19.6 million shipped at the end of March 2012 is a bit... optimistic to say the least. But it's possible imo. Japan ~4.5 million at the end of 2011, the USA at ~4m and I'd expect the rest of the world (prette much Europe + Canada + Australia/NZ [+ South Korea?]) to have a similar amount, perhaps ~5 million.
That's about 13.5 million sold through at the end of 2011 (give or take). Japan is on a roll atm, so expecting another 1.5 million for the first three months is probably not too outrageous and expecting another ~2 million for the rest of the world also seems quite possible (actually this might be lowballling).
That's ~17 million sold through with 19.6 million shipped. A bit of channel stuffing and they could very well make that happen.
@BurntPork Where do you have that 7 million figure from? Hardware shipments are only known up until the end of September (unless I missed sth. today/yesterday).
Not sure how you're getting at that figure since we don't have their global shipments through to the end of December (or not until their next fiscal report, anyway), nevermind sell-through data for all the major markets.
By the end of 2011, sell through for 3DS may very well be about 12-13 millions so 14-15 millions shipment at the end of 2011 is the best guess and I can't believe shipping another 4 millions in the first quarter of 2012 will be a problem for Nintendo.
PumpkinPie
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And if that doesn't blow your mind, consider the fact that despite those numbers it is apparently doomed.
You have no idea what 3DS sold in Europe and everywhere else, stop guessing.
Nice all around. Happy about Skyward Sword, too. For some reason, NeoGAF put the fear of it failing in me.
lol I see what you did before the merge.
Its a secret to everybody.
Gianni Merryman
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For the sake of precision, as a matter of fact Mario kart 7 has allegedly sold more than SML3D, at least in Japan and Europe.
True but I will add, Europe was the first market for the DS. Hopefully if the 3DS passed the 4M mark in the US, this milestone is passed in Europe too.
Oh, and this is not a good news at all for Skyward Sword. 1M? Mainline games for the Zelda franchise usually do 2M+ in the US, not 1M. I don't see it having one more million-legs. And Link's Crossbow Training on the same system is at 3.5M!
frankie_baby
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they said it was a million seller not that it sold one million, I do think if it had sold 2 they would've mentioned that but it could easily be nearer 2 than 1 we just don't know yet
Jaded Alyx
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"Other" region Sep YTD was 2,42m and was at that time best selling region.
I think it´s safe to say 3DS has sold at least 2m Oct-Dec in "Other" region.
Source:
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/library/historical_data/pdf/consolidated_sales_e1109.pdf
I think it´s safe to say 3DS has sold at least 2m Oct-Dec in "Other" region.
Source:
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/library/historical_data/pdf/consolidated_sales_e1109.pdf
Universaldamps
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Good for nintendo. Imagine what the sales will be like when they release Pokemon Grey..
Mihael Mello Keehl
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Repeat!
They didn't. It costs you more to build another plant than it does to just ride out a shortage and run longer hours on your existing one.
Also holy shit they're probably going to outsell the GameCube in the span of one year. In retrospect, the GCN and the Xbox sold like crap that generation.
I doubt that it sold 6-7 million everywhere else. That wold be pretty insane and we'd probably have some indication of it by now. Only two games charting and Europe and not even staying in the top 10 isn't really a sign of insane sales. So far, Nintendo's only been shipping slightly more 3DS's to the rest of the world as they's been shipping to The Americas according to their financial report, so the sales should only be a couple hundred thousand more than they are here.
I know they didn't, but there was suspicion at the time.
Yeah, the DS number is the weirdest when compared to NPD.
If you go by 51 million LTD, it sold at least 360k. If you go by 3.4 million YTD and assume less than 3.5 million (Why wouldn't they just say 3.5 million?), then it sold between 200k and 300k.
Anyway, based on the PR, mixing Nintendo's tracking and NPD's estimation:
3DS range: 1.55 ~ 2.3 million
Wii range: 1.25 ~ 1.5 million
Remember when Nintendo said "over 3 million Wii units" in Dec. 2009, NPD turned out to be 3.9 million, so don't feel completely restrained to those ranges -- it can be more or less.
Sales don't stop after the holiday season. No Zelda has sold 2 million in just six weeks ever.
Is that so? I need to edit my predictions again, then. lol
Come to think of it, they did something similar last month with software sales.
The way I see it for SS:
- Fans like me and other gamers (those who (re)-buy a Wii for Zelda) just got it at launch => launch record sales. Remember too this "record" is just on the first 2 or 3 days of sales; If we try to compare to OoT between the first 4 weeks, no doubt SS can bag its record and go cry.
- The Wii in 2012 will not allow many legs to SS. All the newcomers will go for Mario Kart, people who buy a 99$ system for the family. The situation for SS is very different from the other previous Zeldas: The Wind Waker got legs but it was the Gamecube second year; Twilight Princess had a Wii version offering a bridge to piracy; Majora's Mask situation is more comparable. But there was maybe 3 or 4 less N64 systems in 2000 and the two games matchs their sales.
I like SS, I don't want to crush this news without any reason, but will all seriousness, I think it's a commercial semi-failure, to say the least.
But I will be the first to be happy if I am wrong and if SS get some serious legs this year!
- Fans like me and other gamers (those who (re)-buy a Wii for Zelda) just got it at launch => launch record sales. Remember too this "record" is just on the first 2 or 3 days of sales; If we try to compare to OoT between the first 4 weeks, no doubt SS can bag its record and go cry.
- The Wii in 2012 will not allow many legs to SS. All the newcomers will go for Mario Kart, people who buy a 99$ system for the family. The situation for SS is very different from the other previous Zeldas: The Wind Waker got legs but it was the Gamecube second year; Twilight Princess had a Wii version offering a bridge to piracy; Majora's Mask situation is more comparable. But there was maybe 3 or 4 less N64 systems in 2000 and the two games matchs their sales.
I like SS, I don't want to crush this news without any reason, but will all seriousness, I think it's a commercial semi-failure, to say the least.
But I will be the first to be happy if I am wrong and if SS get some serious legs this year!
frankie_baby
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Could the ds now be getting harder to buy in some places?
OK, since logic fails with you:
Japan = 4.5m
USA = 4m
rest of America = 0
Other region = 3.5m
Sum = 12m -> 3 million unsold if they shipped 15. Yup, you are right.
Sho_Nuff82
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Most of the 3DS negativity revolved around its launch. Nearly 3 of those 4 million in sales has been since November/Super Mario 3D. Even with that caveat, November sales were only "okay". This is the first indication that the console has really become a hit in North America. It still remains to be seen if it can maintain this momentum, or if it will follow Nintendo's 2010 pattern of great holiday sales followed by lukewarm sales throughout the year (in NA).
You know, for some reason, I forgot the NPD doesn't include Canada. Okay, carry on.
Japan = 4.4m
USA = 4m
rest of Americas = 1m
Other region = 5.3m
14.7m seems close to reality, so you should be correct.
But those add to 14.2 million.
I want to guess too:
Americas 5 million
Japan: 4.5 million
Other: 4.5 million
I'm kinda messed-up right now. >.>;
Duane Cunningham
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I can tell it had a good Christmas, anecdotally speaking... I live in a medium size city with no public transportation. I got two streetpass hits yesterday, and one on Saturday. In the summer, when I first got my 3DS, this would never have happened. One was definitely at the barber shop, too. Small sample size, etc etc, but still. Seems like a good omen.
gamergirly
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I'm happy that there is still a healthy array of Zelda fans in this region
electroplankton
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People expecting more from 3DS should realize that the platform comes from really low numbers; it is not rational to expect it to go from 100k per month to 3 millions in December, even with a low (I'd say fair) price and right games. It takes time to take off and these data are really encouraging.
The power of Mario Kart 7 and Swap Note. Got a few friends that got the 3DS just for those two.
Souldriver
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What else is new?
Glad the the 3DS is doing well. I'm sure the 360 sales will be the talking point of the december NPD's though.
Sammy Samusu
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Nintendo 3DS better get those sales!
And since it's doing great, here's hoping for more game announcements in the upcoming weeks.
And since it's doing great, here's hoping for more game announcements in the upcoming weeks.
What else is new?
Glad the the 3DS is doing well. I'm sure the 360 sales will be the talking point of the december NPD's though.
Shut up
I really can't wait for this to be spun or ignored by the media.