DragoonKain
Neighbours from Hell
It's sold out everywhere(physical copy) and the Collector's Edition is going for $1500 on ebay.
Way less than this for a game and team of this size.Probably mere pocket change since they didn't expect it to sell much. Probably one or two million dollars is my guess.
Nah, that would be a waste of their talent and time. Let SE do whatever it wants to do with FF and let these guys continue creating original ideas. We need less recycled games and more personal passion projects being made.If I was Square, I would offer them money to make a Final Fantasy game. If FFX was ever to remade, I would have these guys do like Blooper with Silent Hill 2.
People like to glaze individuals and build cults of personality around them. Shuhei Yoshida is one of these people and it was always bewildering to me.
Same with Phil Spencer or Shawn Layden.
Yep. I want to see some GAAS figures. Like how many people are playing it online with buddies?Let's not get carried away. What about the engagement figures?
Nah, that would be a waste of their talent and time. Let SE do whatever it wants to do with FF and let these guys continue creating original ideas. We need less recycled games and more personal passion projects being made.
What SE did, they chose themselves. If they find it within themselves that turn-based/the old formula is worth it again, they'll probably get on it. They allowed a small and extremely passionate team to swoop in and pick up the batton while they were missing in action. I'd rather see this team take on their own personal ideas than being tacked onto another remake or fix the missteps of an existing series. That's up to SE to get done right.Exactly. We wouldn't want Square to finally put out a great Final Fantasy game would we?
Why some stupid gamers always want studios with a lot of creativity and original projects to work on rotten remakes and IPs ? I'll never ever understandIf I was Square, I would offer them money to make a Final Fantasy game. If FFX was ever to remade, I would have these guys do like Blooper with Silent Hill 2.
He says a lot of stupid things and I think with Clair Obscur having that "Oh wow" factor that the Golden Age of Square was known for will make him and other members of CBU3 stew in their own juices. They won't learn of course but I wouldn't be surprised if they sat there for days shellshocked and wondering where they went wrong.On that note, I'm willing to bet some SE execs, along with Yoshi-P, are feeling a bit bitter about this.
Expedition 00. Bunch of doddery old age pensioners who just get smashed in seconds. Walking stick weapons, bladder fortitude pictos.Hell yeah. Please make an Expedition 00 game.
I mean more like 13 since everyone thinks FF shit the bed after 12.The real Final Fantasy XVI.
Fair point, good Sir.I mean more like 13 since everyone thinks FF shit the bed after 12.
Anyone notice how people keep saying this but when you have things like this they are completely silent:Wow nice, congrats
Does anyone notice that when a game sells well, the developer has no problem talking about units sold
But when a game sells questionable, they start talking about some bs metric, like pLAyErS, MAU, minutes spent
The real Final Fantasy XVI.
Massive doubt.To put this into perspective Persona 5 took a year and 2 months to reach 2 million. That game has gone on to leg to 7.3 million units.
This game hasn't even met physical demand yet.
15 million lifetime guaranteed
Same for me, it's my game of the generation and it's definitely in my top 3 games of all time now. I seriously can't think of a game with a better story/ost/artIm in Act III now doing side content before what i think might be the final main mission, and i already promoted this game from GOTY to Game of the Generation. Everething has been an 10/10 for me. Masterpiece.
To put this into perspective Persona 5 took a year and 2 months to reach 2 million. That game has gone on to leg to 7.3 million units.
This game hasn't even met physical demand yet.
15 million lifetime guaranteed
so FF7R part 3 back to turn based systemThis game is going to sell more than FF7R and Rebirth combined…
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Yes, and a turn based mode for the first two games… Dreaming is free.so FF7R part 3 back to turn based system
Grabbed a physical copy recently. Its getting increasingly difficult to track down one around here. Nearest store with just one physical copy left is >30 miles away. Online stocks seems to steadily deplete too. Every other online vendor here has sold out.More people need to experience this RPG.
It's not overselling it to say that this is one of the best RPGs of all time and sits neatly into your fond memories of Chrono Trigger or the best of Final Fantasy and somehow… it sells for less than the standard price.
Can we stop with these hot takes like Square still doesn't release dope turn based games that have outsold this, still. Square is more than mainline Final Fantasy.After this, Square Enix has some soul seaching to do.
Can we stop with these hot takes like Square still doesn't release dope turn based games that have outsold this, still. Square is more than mainline Final Fantasy.
Hell yeah. Please make an Expedition 00 game.
Why?Massive doubt.
He says a lot of stupid things and I think with Clair Obscur having that "Oh wow" factor that the Golden Age of Square was known for will make him and other members of CBU3 stew in their own juices. They won't learn of course but I wouldn't be surprised if they sat there for days shellshocked and wondering where they went wrong.
Dev costs covered by Game Pass? I saw an estimate for Clair Obscur's dev to be in the $10-50M range. I'm thinking Game Pass' deal didn't hit $10M...then again, I don't think we have many hard numbers on what Microsoft doles out for GP.Makes you wonder how much they would've sold without Gamepass, but I bet their development costs were covered at a minimum. So this is a huge win for them and I can't wait to see what they do next. Loving this game!
Who would have thought there was a burgeoning market for turn based RPGs without the cringe anime aesthetics and tropes (I knew this).
The streamlining has to go...it's one of the main reasons I quit XIV altogether. A game for everyone is a game for no one.If there's one thing I hope Square takes away from the success of not only this game but also stuff like Baldur's Gate 3 and Elden Ring, it's that their strategy of trying to streamline and dumb down their games to make them more "accessible" and appeal to everyone is outdated and out of touch. A game designed for everyone is usually a game that doesn't truly appeal to anyone, while games like Expedition 33, Baldur's Gate 3 and Elden Ring have enough confidence in their audience to demand more from them, and have achieved great success by doing so.
Rebirth is decent in this regard, but most of their other AAA games feel like they care more about making them accessible to 5 years old and 70 years olds than appealing to their core audience.
Still more logical than the Kingdom Hearts naming scheme!Such a weird naming convention for a franchise.
Final Fantasy XII -> Lost Odyssey -> Claire Obscur: Expedition 33
Final Fantasy XIII, XIV and XV would have been a more logical naming structure, but maybe that's just me.
There's a lot of Lost Odyssey in this game, kinda make me want to play it again.Such a weird naming convention for a franchise.
Final Fantasy XII -> Lost Odyssey -> Claire Obscur: Expedition 33
Final Fantasy XIII, XIV and XV would have been a more logical naming structure, but maybe that's just me.