Nintendo announces Zelda: Breath of the Wild season pass, $20, contents detailed
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What about a Super Mario Odyssey season pass?
I mean, fair point, even though I'd argue that The Division DLC didn't feel like it was stripped out and then added. However, the problem with this argument is that you can't really say this about Breath of the Wild. Locking a hard mode behind DLC seems shady at best, and given how long this game's taken to make, who's to say that some of the DLC stuff wasn't taken out to be sold separately? You can't just make that claim without any sort of evidence.
Edit: Also, something that I find rather strange about Season Passes is that there is never really any incentive to buy them ahead of time, since they never go up in price once the final DLC releases. In fact, many times the Season Passes drop in price by then, so you're never really penalized for waiting. I think given the uncertain nature of DLC, even if we have a vague idea of what it's going to be, it's probably just better to wait until it comes out to see whether it's worth the money.
They're not forcing you to buy it now. If you're not sold on it, wait until we get more information or until it comes out.
QuantumSquid
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You wanted Nintendo to start acting like a modern videogame platform operator?
HERE YOU GO!
HERE YOU GO!
Damn. Nintendo is gonna own my wallet with the Switch.
OrbitalBeard
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Nintendo sold season passes while Iwata was alive, so I'm going to assume that yes, yes he would.
In fact, one of the season passes was for....wait for it....Hyrule Warriors.
ElectricBlanketFire
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I purchase so little DLC as it is that I don't mind it on occasion.
Come to think of it, I haven't purchased DLC since Mario Kart 8.
Come to think of it, I haven't purchased DLC since Mario Kart 8.
Nintendo still sells a handheld that doesn't come with a way to charge it out of the box. It's pretty hilarious people think somehow Iwata/Nintendo/whoever is above something like a $20 season pass for Zelda.
They're locking them together because Pack 2 has the actual new meat of the content. Majority won't care much for Pack 1.
Dorsal Axe
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Pack 1 doesn't sound too great, in all honesty.
Unless by "New Hard Mode" they mean remixed dungeons like OoT Master Quest, in which case it might be worth buying.
Unless by "New Hard Mode" they mean remixed dungeons like OoT Master Quest, in which case it might be worth buying.
EmCeeGramr
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I'm curious about "new hard mode," because the game itself already has most of the features that Hero Mode in past Zelda games: enemies do far more damage than in previous games already, and you can't find hearts to instaheal in the world but need to use healing items.
So I'm wondering if it'll just be the double damage from the Ganondorf amiibo, or if it'll be that coupled with other effects, or if enemy placements and behavior will actually change, or if, given the game's themes, it'll be a full on survival mode with food requirements and even more stringent healing needs.
So I'm wondering if it'll just be the double damage from the Ganondorf amiibo, or if it'll be that coupled with other effects, or if enemy placements and behavior will actually change, or if, given the game's themes, it'll be a full on survival mode with food requirements and even more stringent healing needs.
Skittzo0413
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The game went gold several weeks ago, prior to that they had no concrete plans for DLC.
So I honestly can't see how this is anything but a good thing. You can pay if you want for extra content. Hopefully it's more in line with an "expansion pack" than it is with modern DLC, but regardless, this is new content you can have if you want. We really know very little about what this content will entail, but going by Nintendo's previous high profile DLC efforts it's likely to be pretty substantial.
If you don't want to pay an extra $20, you still have an enormous Zelda game to play. But people who want more content in this world get it. So I don't see why this is a bad thing.
It could even be a boss rush mode for all we know. The game as it stands is already reportedly quite difficult, so doubling damage taken just doesn't sound fun to me. Maybe they'll add more enemies?
So I honestly can't see how this is anything but a good thing. You can pay if you want for extra content. Hopefully it's more in line with an "expansion pack" than it is with modern DLC, but regardless, this is new content you can have if you want. We really know very little about what this content will entail, but going by Nintendo's previous high profile DLC efforts it's likely to be pretty substantial.
If you don't want to pay an extra $20, you still have an enormous Zelda game to play. But people who want more content in this world get it. So I don't see why this is a bad thing.
It could even be a boss rush mode for all we know. The game as it stands is already reportedly quite difficult, so doubling damage taken just doesn't sound fun to me. Maybe they'll add more enemies?
mario_O
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They're forcing you to buy all packs though. Because they know nobody would buy number 1, and probably because number 2 isnt worth 20.
Belgian Dude
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There're gonna make us pay for Splatoon 2 DLC too, right ?
No, of course not. That's a very 2012 strategy. You'll just have the option to buy loot crates.
Did 3D world/land have DLC? I mean they did Captain Toad Treasure Tracker, but it was a separate game
In a heart beat.
Gai Murakumo
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The 2nd DLC pack is intriguing to say the least.
flintstryker
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I love Nintendo's games but I stand resolute in my opinion on DLC which is fuck em with a spiked bat
Com Truise
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Obviously. I'm just saying that absolutely nothing about this announcement fills me with excitement and joy. It's just ewww at this point, and I'd rather not be feeling like this about any aspect of this game.
Barry Burton
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"Oh neat, new dungeons post release? This could be cool."
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ElectricBlanketFire
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No.
Wait so are you or aren't you pre ordering this time around? Just curious and has nothing to do with the thread
I would have if I could find a switch preorder. Now I might just wait anyway.
Inferno313
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No. NSMB U did though, so they're clearly not opposed to selling DLC for Mario games.
I know why they're doing it, but obviously the majority doesn't care. And who can blame them?
Pila
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Dunno, I'm a huge fan but the thought of playing with some Switch shirt gives me the actual creeps.
Who cares, it's not the main thing about the DLC, but it stinks. I'll burn it down or something. ^^
SIgh.. et tu Nintendo?
Keep stabbing me in the back like all the other companies, so I have to get a chart to see if I have a complete version of a game to play my RPG/Adventure on. ANd for what? The second hand market? Is that the only reason you charge physical prices for digital games?
But the gamer crowd will fall for it again, I'm sure. They'll just buy it and your shareholders will be soooo happy.
Never before have we needed SEGA back in old Form than these days, but when they do come back .. they probably are the same with scrooging for money to please the rich..
Keep stabbing me in the back like all the other companies, so I have to get a chart to see if I have a complete version of a game to play my RPG/Adventure on
. ANd for what? The second hand market? Is that the only reason you charge physical prices for digital games? But the gamer crowd will fall for it again, I'm sure. They'll just buy it and your shareholders will be soooo happy.
Never before have we needed SEGA back in old Form than these days, but when they do come back .. they probably are the same with scrooging for money to please the rich.
.Neoleo2143
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I'm going to guess that it's a full on rebalance of the game for expert players. As in it'll probably be harder than a lot of games if Nintendo wanted it to be.
it'd be cool if hard mode changed the enemy AI to make traversing through the world tougher
Okami Haundo
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What do you think the new "hard mode" will entail? I was just discussing this with another user but I'd love to hear your opinion. As the base game includes elements previously found in "hero mode" (no health pickups, enemies that deal substantial damage) it really doesn't seem that they would just give us a "traditional" approach here.
I'm thinking it could involve tweaking dungeons and moving shrines around ALA mirror mode.
sixteen-bit
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Zelda behind a paywall would be some fuckery
bobbychalkers
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Never thought I'd see the day. I'm glad its just 20 bucks though. Most season passes nowadays range from $30-$40. The only bad thing is that it doesn't seem worth it until the holidays, I'm really curious how that story DLC will play out.
Fucking really? I must have dreamed the season passes for Mario Kart 8, Hyrule Warriors, Mario Golf, Fire Emblem: Fates, etc...
Oh my god, take the wheel T_T
Drillary Clinton
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DLC Pack 2 sounds like the only substantial content. It'll probably be worth the $20 itself tho. Locking hard mode behind the season pass is wack, however.
OrbitalBeard
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Yeah, I fully expect this. And I'll throw them my money for it.
Jimmyfenix
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Just what i wanted
a switch t shirt when playing a zelda game
a switch t shirt when playing a zelda game
No lies detected
randomengine
Banned
I'm Nintendo systems only now so I can focus on Nintendo DLC I couldn't otherwise afford to focus on.
paragonpro
Banned
I never thought id see the day that zelda got a season pass
Inferno313
Banned
Yeah, if the "Hard Mode" is something akin to OOT's Master Quest, it'll absolutely be worth the price point.
QuixoticNeutral
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I somehow suspect the paywalled Hard Mode is something a little more substantial than the Hero Mode of games past, with the damage pumped up and health replenishment constrained, but it may be advisable to wait and see.
Nintendo DLC runs the gamut from an absolute steal (MK8) to packs that double the cost of the game (Awakening, SSB), so I won't rush to judgement but also don't see much of a reason to put money down right away until we hear more. The value will or will not be justified by the quality and breadth of the content itself, and also by the sense of completeness in the out-of-the-box experience, which in this case includes the scalability of the difficulty. If the base game truly comes off as unfinished or in serious need of a distinct Hard Mode not already created by the player's chosen path through the world, certainly we should go ahead and grumble.
Mostly, my dismay is that I would rather have seen the Zelda team work on an independent follow-up like Majora's Mask to elaborate on what the BotW engine and systems can do within an idiosyncratic format, but we can only hope that possibility has not been excluded, only deferred.
I'll probably hold off on buying in at launch as I want to experience the game as balanced without the early boost of useful items.
Nintendo DLC runs the gamut from an absolute steal (MK8) to packs that double the cost of the game (Awakening, SSB), so I won't rush to judgement but also don't see much of a reason to put money down right away until we hear more. The value will or will not be justified by the quality and breadth of the content itself, and also by the sense of completeness in the out-of-the-box experience, which in this case includes the scalability of the difficulty. If the base game truly comes off as unfinished or in serious need of a distinct Hard Mode not already created by the player's chosen path through the world, certainly we should go ahead and grumble.
Mostly, my dismay is that I would rather have seen the Zelda team work on an independent follow-up like Majora's Mask to elaborate on what the BotW engine and systems can do within an idiosyncratic format, but we can only hope that possibility has not been excluded, only deferred.
I'll probably hold off on buying in at launch as I want to experience the game as balanced without the early boost of useful items.
Yes?
Mario Kart 8?
Fire Emblem?
Hyrule Warriors?
New Super Mario Bros. 2?
All these games have Season Passes/DLC.
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