Lumpy Onion
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If you want a game that epitomizes awesome 2D visuals for the SNES then this is the one. Game is still freaking gorgeous after all these years.
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Nintendo Downloads - November 2014
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If you want a game that epitomizes awesome 2D visuals for the SNES then this is the one. Game is still freaking gorgeous after all these years.
Crimsonclaw111
Member
I've done this for Mega Man X as well, so I'd be fine with that.
The gameplay on the trailer looks sort of slow. Is that representative or is it a bit faster than the trailers lead me to believe?
Any other VC suggestions are welcome, though I'm aware the picks are sadly slim atm.
Lumpy Onion
Member
It is more of a technical action game than something like Contra III. A lot of the gameplay revolves around timed flying and grappling onto surfaces. I guess you could call it kinda "slow". If you want fast I would recommend Contra III. That game is quite the spectacle visually as well. Contra III or Castlevania IV are both god-tier SNES action games imo.
The game is really all about exploring stages and fighting bosses. The enemies are really just there in stages to get in the way of exploration. If you find poking around levels to figure out where to go a bit slow, yeah, you'll find this slow, although the levels are short so the pace is pretty quick. The boss fights, however, are pretty fast-paced and occasionally quite tough.
As for other things to recommend on VC, that entirely depends on what you're into and what you've already played, so tough to say... maybe Wild Guns?
Crimsonclaw111
Member
Hmm. Sounds like a good change of pace then, I have or had both Castlevania 4 and Contra and they are indeed amazing. How does Dracula X stack up to 4?
I love platformers and action games, not a fan at all of RPGs.
If you like fast-paced action games, definitely give Wild Guns a look. It's kinda hard and you'll need the sort of get-back-to-it patience we all had 20 years ago as it's almost arcade-style, but it's a fantastic game.
Have you played Ufouria? It's certainly on the slow side but as far as those hidden gems go, it's one of the better ones on the Virtual Console. Other than that, I dunno... have you played Super Punch-Out? Can't go wrong with that.
Lumpy Onion
Member
Dracula X for SNES is kinda underwhelming. Didn't feel like much love went into that game tbh. It's an alright Castlevania, but rather bland. Compared to IV it's trash.
You might really like Demon's Crest. You can transform into different demons, each with their own unique abilities and speeds. It's a pretty awesome game. The previous games in the series had more RPG elements, but this one tones it down quite a bit.
Agreed on IV.
Lumpy Onion
Member
I would start with Castlevania IV or Aria of Sorrow. CV IV for an incredible straightforward action Castlevania, and Aria of Sorrow for one of the best action RPG Castlevanias.
Crimsonclaw111
Member
Wild Guns actually did catch my interest, and I love Super Punch Out but felt too ripped off to waste my Club Nintendo points on a Wii download.
The following also have my interest:
Cybernator
Final Fight series
That Ufouria game looks great and reminds me that Sunsoft were the NES kings.
Castlevania I, III, IV, and Rondo of Blood (boot up into the Wii VC for this one, Dracula X on the Wii U VC is an inferior version of this game)
All are great games and great starting points. Symphony of the Night and Bloodlines on the Playstation 1 and Genesis are equally good but not available on the Wii U.
Castelvania II is for the NES historian with a stack of old Nintendo Powers and a willingness to imagine playground rumors and dial-up hint lines as part of the fun.
The GBA and DS Castlevanias are just inferior versions of Symphony of the Night. Dawn of the Sorrow on the DS is probably the most worth playing. I don't think that's made it to the Wii U yet but DS games are supposed to be coming. The GBA Aria of Sorrow is also fine if you really want to try out this style of Castelvania on the Wii U right now.
Werewolf Jones
Member
Megaman X3 finally dropping in the Wii-U store for EU this week. I'm ready.
ZSaberLink
Media Create Maven
I don't love Cybernator and it's kinda slow but if you like Demon's Crest it's probably about that speed. Cybernator definitely has its fans though so don't let me put you off it.
Final Fight is really monotonous but also fun, especially with a friend. I got the third one in their sale way back and had fun but I also never went back to it.
TheMoon
Member
https://mobile.twitter.com/YachtClubGames/status/529575703243542528?p=v
Shovel Knight getting 33% off cross-buy discount in EU/AU if you alreadyown either version.
Shovel Knight getting 33% off cross-buy discount in EU/AU if you alreadyown either version.
Bit strange considering it's not possible for us to have either version yet. Plus there's only a month or so to take advantage of the 'deal'.
Robin64
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TheMoon
Member
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=137169223&postcount=121
Why strange? They're just letting us know ahead of time, other devs do that too.
I wouldn't have thought so.
The Sony thread was essentially a Vita community thread anyway, with a smattering of release news. This thread serves its purpose brilliantly and are informative enough to justify being in the gaming section.
My only fear now is that the playstation releases are gonna be even harder to find. This thread's discussion revolves around the releases and their dates, but now no such Sony equivalent exists. Odd.
You essentially have to buy the game twice at roughly the same time to get the discount - usually one version has been offered before to get people to double dip on the second.
TheMoon
Member
Again, that's perfectly normal. There have been a bunch of launch sales like this, even for VC games early on. Buy one, get ?% off the other. This is no different. Hell, this exact thing has been happening during the last four weeks with the DKC-sale!.
Herb Alpert
Banned
shovel knight discount could be cool if there was cross save. Without it, no reason to buy twice at the same time.
WHAT?! Well I'll be damned. I guess weekly releases are no longer newsworthy. :/
I can understand that. That's not a news thread. This is.
TheMoon
Member
Well, it kinda is. It's basically the retail version of this thread, spread across the whole year.
Starwolf_UK
Member
Mod posted in the Steam thread. I think it is relevant info:
So that confuses me, should there be threads on gaming for each press release as that is more of a "actual specific, this is happening right now type gaming threads".
I was referring to the screenshot thread, tbh. But I can understand moving that one too. They try to discourage megathreads, right? Any noteworthy retail release news will warrant its own thread, after all.
These threads are concise and informative enough to warrant being in the main forum, if you ask me. Which no one did.
Confuses me too.
These weekly release threads are important. Unfortunately they set a daft precedemt by closing the Vita community thread and turning the PSN thread into one big megathread, making it ineffectual and turning it into a Vita community thread anyway. Rather than reinstating the Vita community and having a useful PSN release thread, this happens. And we've been lumped in the same category.
TheMoon
Member
Sounds like 80% of threads should actually be posted in Community then? The "LTTP/RTTP" "What's your favorite XYZ" "recommend me some gamz" type threads?!
TheMoon
Member
I guess? I still would suggest the PR should be collected here for userfriendliness.
Speaking of Final Fight, if Capcom put Final Fight One (GBA) on the Wii U VC, would it be able to support the 2 player mode? Even if it couldn't, there should be a way for Capcom to add it as they added online play to Super SF 2 (Genesis) for Wii VC.
If they did that, I would highly recommend FF One over the SNES FF as it has all 3 characters, 2-player co-op, more enemies on screen, and the industrial level that was cut from the SNES version. SNES version has more accurate colors and music, but I would willing to live with those sacrifices for the benefits of the GBA version.
When Community launched the mods should have taken the bold step of putting every single brand new OT in there and moved everyone created on Gaming there until it became a second home. Doing the whole wait a month deal made it "the place where gaming threads go to die" instead of having people take their medicine right away.
That being said I love community but it does tend to scare people away and prevent many new people from going to community. Fantasy Life's thread just got moved here too even though the game is only ten days out in the primary region of this board's posters and I expect talk to seriously drag on that one.
That being said I love community but it does tend to scare people away and prevent many new people from going to community. Fantasy Life's thread just got moved here too even though the game is only ten days out in the primary region of this board's posters and I expect talk to seriously drag on that one.
It is. But "monthly" seems like a pretty arbitrary benchmark. It is a comprehensive news thread. Is the alternative a weekly thread instead, individual threads for each announcement, or just the hope that people will venture into Community to establish what's releasing when?
yeah i dunno, since it's moved to community anyway, maybe it'd be better to just have one continuous thread?
i get why monthly threads are helpful in the main forum (easier to organize and acquire relevant information), but in community?
in any case, i suppose we will be doing weekly PR threads from now on, which is fine I guess
Minsc
Gold Member
I think the idea is more people should use community for general all-encompassing threads like this, and individual announcements that you (or anyone) has actual interest in discussing and playing at the moment have new threads made for discussing them.
So 20 new games / news items are released during the week and they get indexed / mentioned here, that's fine, and useful, but now if you're interested in playing and discussing any of those games, you simply would create a thread to discuss that specific game like normal. If this structure doesn't work out, we can always go back.
Interesting theory. So no weekly thread? I guess we'll see if that works out.
There are two styles of castlevania games.
The games on (S)NES and other consoles are punishing, linear platformers with limited character mobility that require you carefully time your jumps and attacks.
The games on GBA and NDS (and Symohony of the Night) are quick action games that usually require you to explore a big castle. The difficulty is way lower and there's an emphasis on RPG elements; levelling up, switching gear. This games fit under the metroidvania label.
Out of the classic Castlevania games I've played (I, III, The adventure (GB), Rondo of Blood and it's remake) I like III the most. It has multiple paths and partners, so there's replayability and the level design is really varied. I was super impressed that such a modern feeling game came out so long ago. Be warned though, the game is hard, like really hard, so I'm hesitant to recommend it as your first classic Castlevania.
That's why you should probably start with Rondo of Blood (only available in Wii mode so far). If you have a PSP or Vita (NA only), you could instead get Dracula Chronicles X, which is an uglier but otherwise superior remake of Rondo of Blood. You can also unlock the original version and Symphony of the Night.
Speaking of Symphony, many say that it's the best metroidvania but to me that's just nostalgia talking; the game lacks challenge to the point of being boring. Aria of Sorrow is my favorite out of the metroidvanias and I've played them all except Circle of the Moon which supposedly more closely resembles the classic games than other metroidvanias.
The original NES game is also enjoyable but kind of basic and short.
Maybe if you're wearing nostalgia goggles. Symphony was the only metroidvania I had to force myself to finish; the game is just that boring.
Aria of Sorrow is hands down the best Metroidvania; the soul system just adds so much variety.