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[fallout]

I still don't find it impressive that the DS couldn't sell out in its first week, especially with Black Friday there to boost sales. This thing is gonna stagnate post Xmas.

Well, that about wraps it up for the NDS!

... wait ... no! These are good numbers! Damn you Mrbob!

 

[Spiritreaver]

I am with Mrbob on this one.... 500k is a nice number, but it is suppose to be the hot item this holiday season according to someone, plus it was the busiest shopping week of the year..... and sold 50% of shipment. A new item like this should have sold out.

It sold 90% of its shipments throughout that first week. 1 million units haven't even been shipped yet. Read the article again.

 

[Stinkles]

It still hurts my hands to play it, no matter how many are sold at retail.

 

[JoshuaJSlone]

I am with Mrbob on this one.... 500k is a nice number, but it is suppose to be the hot item this holiday season according to someone, plus it was the busiest shopping week of the year..... and sold 50% of shipment. A new item like this should have sold out.

Where are you (and Anihawk) getting this? The stories specifically state 90%, not 50%.

 

[fallout]

I am with Mrbob on this one.... 500k is a nice number, but it is suppose to be the hot item this holiday season according to someone, plus it was the busiest shopping week of the year..... and sold 50% of shipment. A new item like this should have sold out.

... 500k was the initial shipment. The rest will arrive by the end of the year.

 

[Speevy]

In what universe is 500K in a week underwhelming? That's about what the GBA usually sells in a month.

 

[sonycowboy]

... 500k was the initial shipment. The rest will arrive by the end of the year.

REDMOND, Wash., Dec. 1, 2004 - Shoppers spent Thanksgiving week stuffing their shopping bags with Nintendo hardware, setting the stage for 2004 to be the year of the hand-held holidays. Shoppers snapped up more than 500,000 Nintendo DS™ systems during Thanksgiving week, representing more than 90 percent of all units available in stores across the United States.

Uhhhh, no.

 

[king zell]

1 million by the end of the year

untill now they only shipped less than 600k units

 

[sonycowboy]

In what universe is 500K in a week underwhelming? That's about what the GBA usually sells in a month.

Not in November

 

[fallout]

Uhhhh, no.

Ugh, geezus.

Fine, ~550-600k units. I didn't think I'd have to be so bloody specific in my numbers there.

 

[Tritroid]

Some people are really stretching to turn this into negative news. :lol

 

[Unison]

How many Virtual Boys were sold in the US altogether?

 

[sonycowboy]

How many Virtual Boys were sold in the US altogether?

I don't know, but I heard 500k in their launch week

 

[Christoff Yurievich]

Even if the original GBA model dropped to 40 dollars I doubt it still managed to outsell the SP.

let me spell it out for you then:

GBA + GBASP = 800,000 units. Nothing outsold the other (at least within these PR's), they are being COMBINED. I never said the GBA outsold the GBASP, I said that the lower price point on the GBA helped propel these numbers.

Nintendo's other hand-held system, Game Boy® Advance, also soared during the holiday weekend. Nintendo sold more than 800,000 Game Boy Advance and Game Boy® Advance SP units during the past week.

see the 'and' there?

on another note: I wonder how many people are not buying a GBA and waiting for the DS to be back in stock?

 

[Unison]

Apples & Oranges, but....:

According to a Reuters report, which quotes reports from Japanese game magazine Enterbrain, the Game Boy Advance SP system has sold through more than 365,000 units in its first month on the market in Japan.

 

[Unison]

http://www.stanford.edu/~saifrc/virtualboy/virtualboy.html

The system that Nintendo expected to sell 3 million units in its first year actually sold fewer than 350,000, total. And most of those units were grossly discounted, resulting in very little profits from the whole Virtual Boy venture.

 

[Spiritreaver]

Apples & Oranges, but....:

Also GBA did 500k in a week during its American launch.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/2001/06/18/news_2776532.html

 

[fallout]

I don't know, but I heard 500k in their launch week

With a first-day sell-through of slightly more than 500,000 units, revenues generated by PlayStation 2 console sales were more than $149 million, meaning that software and peripheral sales on October 26 exceeded $100 million. This number is made even more noteworthy when you consider that it is greater than the total revenue generated by Dreamcast consoles, software, and peripherals all totaled on its first day.

The PlayStation 2's day-one sell-through number (more than 500,000) marks an industry record for the fastest a gaming console has ever sold. Sega's Dreamcast took two weeks to top the same mark, with a total of 514,000 sold-through after its first two weeks of availability, while it took more than two months for Nintendo 64, and more than four months for the original PlayStation, to reach the same numbers.

Sony says that it's still on track to ship an average of about 100,000 PlayStation 2s to retailers each week throughout the rest of this calendar year, with a total shipment of around 1.3 million systems by the end of December. The company is also still on track to ship three million PlayStation 2 units in North America by the end of the fiscal year, March 31, 2001.

Source: IGN

Granted, the PS2 was single day and obviously impressive, but in terms of actual shipment size on a weekly basis, it's really quite similar. 600k shipped in the first week, most of it bought (I think "more than 90%" counts as "most"), 1.3 million systems shipped by the end of December (close to Nintendo's 1 mil), 3 million by the end of the fiscal year, pretty close to what Nintendo is saying I think.

I guess the PS2 launch sucked ass as well then?

 

[Unison]

Also GBA did 500k in a week during its American launch.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/2001/06/18/news_2776532.html

... and that launched in June!

I believe Nintendo when they say they don't have seasonal selling periods... they have product launches.

 

[Spiritreaver]

... and that launched in June!

I believe Nintendo when they say they don't have seasonal selling periods... they have product launches.

And, if someone really wants to say that the DS should have sold more during November compared to the GBA which is "off season". Take the fact that the DS is at least $50 more expensive than the GBA and SP at launch.

 

[Tritroid]

let me spell it out for you then:

GBA + GBASP = 800,000 units. Nothing outsold the other (at least within these PR's), they are being COMBINED. I never said the GBA outsold the GBASP, I said that the lower price point on the GBA helped propel these numbers.

see the 'and' there?

on another note: I wonder how many people are not buying a GBA and waiting for the DS to be back in stock?

And I'm saying that even with the original GBA model dropping to 40$ at Wal-mart, I doubt that alone would cause the spike to 800,000 units sold of both GBA and SP, like you originally said.

Of course, I could be wrong, since I don't know what the actual numbers are. Hell, the original GBA could have made up 400k of those numbers...but I think it's safe to say that it actually made up a very small amount of the total sell through. Especially considering it's the inferior product as well as the fact that SP dropped in price also.

So either way I don't think the original GBA model dropping to 40$ at Walmart was reason enough to say "Well no wonder the sales numbers are so high".

 

[gamergirly]

And I'm saying that even with the original GBA model dropping to 40$ at Wal-mart, I doubt that alone would cause the spike to 800,000 units sold of both GBA and SP, like you originally said.

Of course, I could be wrong, since I don't know what the actual numbers are. Hell, the original GBA could have made up 400k of those numbers...but I think it's safe to say that it actually made up a very small amount of the total sell through. Especially considering it's the inferior product as well as the fact that SP dropped in price also.

So either way I don't think the original GBA model dropping to 40$ at Walmart was reason enough to say "Well no wonder the sales numbers are so high".

800,000 is quite possible since the GBA-SP/GBA has been selling 300,000 to 500,000 for the last 3 months.

 

[CrisKre]

How can people say this isnt good when the HAD NO MORE FREAKIN' DSs TO SELL?

Good lord, logic escapes this forum sometimes and hate blinds some posters usually apparently.

 

[Unison]

And it's almost doubled the Virtual Boy's lifetime sales in just one week, so those comparisons need to end now.

 

[FitzOfRage]

How can people say this isnt good when the HAD NO MORE FREAKIN' DSs TO SELL?

Good lord, logic escapes this forum sometimes and hate blinds some posters usually apparently.

Anything less than 101% sell through is a failure.

 

[AirBrian]

Poor jarrod -- he's not even here to enjoy this. :-(

 

[SantaC]

Some people are really stretching to turn this into negative news. :lol

I expected it. Every nintendo news(even the great ones) is spinned into something negative these days.

 

[gamergirly]

I expected it. Every nintendo news(even the great ones) is spinned into something negative these days.

Until DS trumps PSP, they still have some negativity to hold onto....(it's called hope that DS fails)

 

[human5892]

Poor jarrod -- he's not even here to enjoy this. :-(

Hey, yeah!

Although his ban was self-imposed.

 

[missAran]

I can't believe how well it's selling no good games to play at launch. I guess people just like new gadgets and things. Great news for Nintendo, I hope the sales stay up and I hope it's able to co-exist with the GBA.

I'm anxious to see how Nintendo produces it's next Game Boy system.

 

[FoneBone]

Sex crime!

I don't get it.

 

[Mihail]

Until DS trumps PSP, they still have some negativity to hold onto....(it's called hope that DS fails)

Yeah, what's with acting like Nintendo killed people's puppies? I can understand being disappointed with some company's decisions, but it seems like there is some actual hate and harm-wishing. They seem like good peoples over there.

 

[Mrbob]

I love PR speak:

"Consumers have voted the Nintendo DS as the hot item this holiday, so if you see one, you'd better buy it," says Reggie Fils-Aime, Nintendo of America's executive vice president of sales & marketing. "Nintendo owns the hand-held market, and once again we're the hit of the holiday season."

Blast from the past:

http://news.com.com/2100-1040-233527.html?legacy=cnet

"By hitting the 1 millon units sold landmark, it is clear that the Sega Dreamcast consumer has moved beyond the hardcore gamer and into the mass market," Chris Gilbert, senior vice president of Sales, Sega of America, said in a statement.

 

[captmcblack]

Man, Nintendo must feel sorta dumb; it seems the way this thing is selling, they could've had a few more of these things in stores and ready to go, and they could've have 'em sold.

Either way, great news for Nintendo.

 

[king zell]

wow Mrbob your trying so hard..

 

[gamergirly]

I love PR speak:



Blast from the past:

http://news.com.com/2100-1040-233527.html?legacy=cnet

Since when did PS3 hit the handheld market? Also, where is it in the news that Nintendo doesnt plan on supporting the console(another mistake that Sega made with Dreamcast) or providing commercials for its games so they dont die out?

 

[Mrbob]

Not really. Took me all of a minute to do a google search. And I wasn't even commenting on the DS sales. Just a little jab at the PR talk all the fanboys soak in.

 

[xsarien]

Blast from the past:

http://news.com.com/2100-1040-233527.html?legacy=cnet

You know the Dreamcast would've done just fine if Sega hadn't been, you know, fucking hemorrhaging, right? "The pre-launch hype of the PS2 killed the Dreamcast" is an excuse, not the actual reason.

 

[Spiritreaver]

I love PR speak:



Blast from the past:

http://news.com.com/2100-1040-233527.html?legacy=cnet

I don't see any relation in the quotes at all. And anyways, what's with these silly attempts at comparing the DS sales number with failed systems? You can easily make just as similar comparisons with successful handheld and console launches. So either way no point can be made. MrBob, I suggest you just give up now as you're not getting anywhere in my eyes. It's too bad you couldn't just accept a successful launch and leave at that. You don't have to keep playing this troll game you know.

 

[fallout]

I love PR speak:

Oh right! Only Nintendo and SEGA use PR speak!

Man, what a great argument you put forth sir. I bow to your amazing ability to show that 500k units of 550k-600k units is a terrible launch. You had me worried that Nintendo might not be doomed. That sure would suck having them around anymore.

 

[Firest0rm]

Not really. Took me all of a minute to do a google search. And I wasn't even commenting on the DS sales. Just a little jab at the PR talk all the fanboys soak in.

Just stop, please.

 

[seismologist]

I do admire his persistence, though.

:lol

 

[AirBrian]

Hey, yeah!

Although his ban was self-imposed.

True.

I can't believe how well it's selling no good games to play at launch. I guess people just like new gadgets and things. Great news for Nintendo, I hope the sales stay up and I hope it's able to co-exist with the GBA.

I'm anxious to see how Nintendo produces it's next Game Boy system.

Just because you don't like the games doesn't mean everyone else won't.

 

[fallout]

Remind me to make a "In before blind hate" post the next time Nintendo does well.

 

[gamergirly]

With DS selling this hot even a month before Xmas hit(I'm pretty sure they are sold out now lol), I think Nintendo is pretty confident about hitting that 5 million mark by the end of March. PSP is going to have a step hill to climb, and they're going to be losing money from the beginning

Unlike Dreamcast and PS2, handheld gaming isnt Sony's stronghold. Sony isnt the "popular" brand there

 

[lexi]

With DS selling this hot even a month before Xmas hit(I'm pretty sure they are sold out now lol), I think Nintendo is pretty confident about hitting that 5 million mark by the end of March. PSP is going to have a step hill to climb, and they're going to be losing money from the beginning

Unlike Dreamcast and PS2, handheld gaming isnt Sony's stronghold. Sony isnt the "popular" brand there

Let's all wait for the PSP launch before we make generalizations on the market. This applies to PSP fans, too.

 

[seismologist]

"I can't believe how well it's selling no good games to play at launch. "


I'm willing to bet that for some people even the free multiplayer Metroid Hunters demo is enough to justify a purchase.
For me it was backwards compatibility and playing an updated Mario 64 on the go.

 

[Christoff Yurievich]

And I'm saying that even with the original GBA model dropping to 40$ at Wal-mart, I doubt that alone would cause the spike to 800,000 units sold of both GBA and SP, like you originally said.

Of course, I could be wrong, since I don't know what the actual numbers are. Hell, the original GBA could have made up 400k of those numbers...but I think it's safe to say that it actually made up a very small amount of the total sell through. Especially considering it's the inferior product as well as the fact that SP dropped in price also.

So either way I don't think the original GBA model dropping to 40$ at Walmart was reason enough to say "Well no wonder the sales numbers are so high".

funny, I thought you were seperating the two units as far as sales goes:

Even if the original GBA model dropped to 40 dollars I doubt it still managed to outsell the SP.

So we're talking about both at the same time now? OK then. Good to know.

And yes, I think that $40 GBA at Wal-Mart on black friday is enough to help propel sales numbers for a week.

 

[AirBrian]

With DS selling this hot even a month before Xmas hit(I'm pretty sure they are sold out now lol), I think Nintendo is pretty confident about hitting that 5 million mark by the end of March. PSP is going to have a step hill to climb, and they're going to be losing money from the beginning

Unlike Dreamcast and PS2, handheld gaming isnt Sony's stronghold. Sony isnt the "popular" brand there

Easy there. Sony and Playstation are very strong brandnames in the gaming industry. Do not underestimate the PSP, especially if Sony is as aggressive with the price here as it is in Japan. Let's not also forget that Sony is the master of creating hype.

 

[JavyOO7]

I'm hoping that Mario 64 and FTM were the biggest buys when it came to software. Especially for FTM. Gives me hope that people are willing to buy 3rd party software. FTM, while short and is really just a whole bunch of mini-games that it's so fun that I hope anyone atleast tries it out.

And yeah, Mario 64. Yeah, controls suck and all but I personally don't mind. Why? Because the game is that good. Sure I don't have precise control anymore (I suck with the analog nub), but man I personally don't give a crap since the game is just too fun.

And oh yeah, good first week for the DS.