Oh Goody, it's time for a good ol' fashioned raping!
gamergirly said:
If battery life wasnt such a concern for handheld gamers, why is it that Game Gear didnt reduce the GameBoy to shambles?
There are so many reasons for that that to list them all might take
years. Let's just put it this way, and I'll state it as clearly as possible for you:
No handheld has ever been as much a challenger to the Nintendo handheld empire as the PSP is about to be. None. Ever. The Game Gear, by comparrison, looks like a filthy little cockroach looking to be stomped on.
The magnitude of the advertising, the sheer sexiness of the device, and... you forget... the Game Gear had you
replacing batteries. It needed 6 AA batteries. PSP has a rechargeable battery. The difference here is also as big as night and day.
But if you can't see the fundamental differences between the Game Gear and PSP, it might not even be worth continuing this discussion because then your stupidity holds no boundaries.
gamergirly said:
Why is it that Sony feels a need to respond to something that isnt important?
Because whether or not it is important [to sales], it
is important for the quality of the PSP handheld. Longer battery life = improved handheld.
gamergirly said:
Both DS and PSP will eventually be improved upon, but you dont site a single reason for somebody not to get a DS.
Oh no, I listed them. It's just that in your imaginary world of rainbows and pot bellied fairies, they're irrelevant.
If you don't think that a
generational gap in visuals, a
monumental canyon like leap in screen quality,
tried and true extensions to some of the most popular Sony franchises, a
multimedia perception and the
one of the most sexiest designs in handheld history aren't "reasons to get a PSP, then you, my great girly friend, are mentally handicapped. And you should get that checked. Right away. Before you let other people catch your stupidity disease.
gamergirly said:
If people knew so much about WHAT handheld gamers wanted, the GameBoy line wouldnt be as popular as it is today.
Heh, you don't know much about how the industry works? People know what handheld gamers want. The problem is getting consumers to notice you when you bring what they want. I don't think Sony is going to have this problem. They actually know how to market things, unlike Nintendo.
gamergirly said:
Notice, that nowhere in my statement did I use "ALL". Of course there will be some games on PSP that you cant get on PS2, but when the MAJORITY of these so called "franchise" extensions are nothing more than added features or improved gameplay than the previous version you got on PS2, does that really qualify you to fork over the cash for a system that is nothing more than an extension of your PS2?
Oh, I see. So I guess in the world of gaming when a sequel has improved features and a gameplay and added elements, people don't think it's worth getting.
Oh...
Oh wait. They already do! All the time!
This whole assertion here is even FUNNIER when you follow up your argument that "people don't want to dig out their N64,
they want to be able to play their N64 games on the go!"
gamergirly said:
At launch, that's the keyword. And the PSP launch isnt looking all that hot either. Heh, just a bunch of PS2 franchise extensions as you said above.
Hey, I'm not calling out the benefits of the PSP launch from the mountain top, I'm simply stating the facts. Based on the current facts, the
DS is in actually worse shape than PSP. But you're willing to overlook that, ain't you baby girl? That's cool. Whoever is the biggest success is the one who'll end up with the most original content anyway. Guess we'll just have to wait to see who pulls ahead, huh? I don't care who wins, I love them both. But man,
you're hilarious.
gamergirly said:
Hasnt it occured to you that many of the people buying a DS are Gamecube owners?
Of course; since the majority of the Gamecube owners are Nintendo hardcore fans, it is correct to assume that the majority of people who got a DS also have a Gamecube. I do not even know what kind of ridiculous assertion you're trying to make from this.
gamergirly said:
Has it occured to you that DS isnt a Gamecube with franchise extensions like PSP is with PS2?
Just because the PSP is close to as powerful as the PS2 does not mean it's just a "PS2 with franchise extensions." I think it's fucking hysterical that you think that just because they are on par with each other visually that somehow consumers will think that one will offer the same thing the other does. Trust me, my delluded friend, consumers will perceive it just as it's meant to be perceived - as a unique handheld device that happens to offer power on par with the current generation.
gamergirly said:
Has it ever occured to you that MOST people would not want to pull out their N64 just to play a few games and would rather have updated versions on a system that they can easy carry around?
First of all, let's assume that all the PSP does is play PS2 games (even though this is false). Consumers would already have an incentive to buy a PSP, then, since the PS2/PSTwo are not portable gaming systems; they are made-for-TV consoles. Now, this doesn't always mean it'd be a success - look at the NOMAD, for instance - but you cannot connect one to the other. The N64 is not portable, and neither is the PS2. Consumers have just as much incentive to buy one or the other because either way the primary use for them
is traveling. Most casual consumers aren't buying the systems so they can sit on the couch playing it as they would a console. That bit of gaming is reserved for the hardcore.
And, naturally, this whole thing I just stated is irrelevant anyway, since consumers can play a host of new games and franchise extensions on the PSP that are not on the PS2. So that argument is as good as dead for you.
gamergirly said:
Hehe, my perceptions arent deluded at all bc that's the ONLY reason I decided to state for my reasons of getting a DS over PSP. Simply put, it has more advantages than PSP does and that makes the difference to me. Having 2 screens and being able to look at the gameply from 2 different perspectives is NOT something that you can currently get with ANY console or handheld out now. So, how exactly would that be an advantage?
"More advantages over the PSP." Now, I like the DS. But are you serious? You think that somehow dual screens
improves gameplay or is suddenly going to change the way consumers want to play games? Don't fool yourself, girly. As expressly proven by the launch, dual screens is going to do just about
jack for improving gameplay over regular games. It's up to a developer to make a quality title for any platform. No amount of "new features" will do it for them. It has potential to make great games, no doubt, and it will over time. But a great DS game is going to be just as great as a great PSP game, and it's as simple as that.
The PSP screen is bigger than both DS screens combined. If the PSP wanted to, it could simply split its screen in two and then, voila, you'd be looking at two gameplay perspectives. This is the type of power the PSP allows, if a developer so wanted to do that. Of course, most developers wouldn't because that's not the type of games developers
usually make. The DS forces developers to make games utilizing both screens, and that's cool.
But, if we're going to be fair, both PSP and DS have their own unique advantages. To deny this is tantamount to ultimate dumbnitude, and as always is not worth discussing further.
gamergirly said:
You're going to have a hard time pulling out graphs that show anything but a random selected showcase of people that were asked about their opinions and preferences. Nothing you can pull out will show that Sony has a better perception over Nintendo in what handheld gamers want. That's bc the fate of the systems havent been determined yet.
Hey, I agree!
But I
can pull out graphs to show that Sony has a better perception about what
gamers want! And this is extremely important in any game market you enter into. As demonstrated by the console market, Nintendo has lost touch with what the casual consumer wants. And whether you like it or not, just like the console world... the handheld world will soon be pushed forward by the casual consumer. Sony knows how to gather that consumer to them; Nintendo, unfortunately, does a poor job.
gamergirly said:
It was never a debate in the first place, since to answer that question you would be foolish enough to think somebody is going to dust off their SNES RATHER than just buy a system that came out over 10 years in the future that offers significant upgades and advancements than what SNES can offer. IF PSP offered something totally unique than just an extension of PS2 qualities, I would buy it. So, yes, move on
... I don't even know where to begin with this. This statement is so dumb that I think I just burned about fifteen thousand brain cells.
gamergirly said:
Nice screens? What exactly is that going to do for somebody looking for a new handheld to buy or making a decision between DS and PSP? When did people start buying game systems for its look alone? It's irrelevant, like most of your discussion......
Oh, my poor friend, stuck hopelessly in the looking glass. What is it going to do for someone making a decision between the DS and PSP? Wait til' you see it. It is, without a doubt, the single most impressive display of technology for handheld gaming we've thus encountered; and that's NOT even including the amazing visuals. If a DS and PSP were side by side, each will have features that "wow" different subsets of people. But in the consumer that counts - the casual - visuals and presentation are
extremely important. And they're going to see this screen on PSP which is fucking
grand canyon lengths ahead of DS screen in quality, and you're gonna bet your ass it's going to make an impression.
But, you don't have to take my word for it. Wait until kiosks start going up.
gamergirly said:
After all, it's the games and system hardware/functions that matters. And if it came down to buying an updated version of a system that you have in the closet or buying a more expensive handheld with hehe franchise extenstions that IS the hottest thing worldwide in console gaming, what are you going to buy? What's more worth your money? The DS is to me. IF you want to buy a PSP, that's your choice, but it doesnt offer enough for me to buy it right now.
Indeed, games and system hardware/functions. Quite right.
Key point, what I underlined. Your entire argument was presented as if your personal perception of both handheld has any viable impact on the gaming market. It doesn't. At all. When you look at the facts, almost nothing you says holds up under scrutiny.
So yes, I will buy a PSP. I already purchased a DS. I will love both.
The end, no?
