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Nintendo says the transition to its next console is ‘a major concern for us’
The_Mike
I cry about SonyGaf from my chair in Redmond, WA
It doesn't look like it's a thing in Japan in general.
Fess
Member
They need to nail backwards compatibility. That’s the only way there won’t be a brutal reset.
If I know I’ll have all my digital and physical purchases playable perfectly, or with better framerate, on a new Nintendo console day 1 it’ll take away lots of concern that would otherwise make me hesitate to jump in.
I bought a Steam Deck for 679 € without thinking twice because I knew I would have a huge Steam library of games just sitting there in a list waiting to be installed.
If I know I’ll have all my digital and physical purchases playable perfectly, or with better framerate, on a new Nintendo console day 1 it’ll take away lots of concern that would otherwise make me hesitate to jump in.
I bought a Steam Deck for 679 € without thinking twice because I knew I would have a huge Steam library of games just sitting there in a list waiting to be installed.
Kokoloko85
Member
If they are smart they will do s Switch 2 And it will be fine. Maybe as good as the Switch
A pure home console will bomb again unless maybe it has some new innovative thing.
They are probably concerned because they cant release another console with similar power/graphics again and they will have to spend more on there games. Plus they’ve practically ported everything from Wii/U that will sell, except Mario Galaxy 2, Metroid trilogy and the HD Zelda’s.
So there next console will require alot more new games And they will be more expensive to make
A pure home console will bomb again unless maybe it has some new innovative thing.
They are probably concerned because they cant release another console with similar power/graphics again and they will have to spend more on there games. Plus they’ve practically ported everything from Wii/U that will sell, except Mario Galaxy 2, Metroid trilogy and the HD Zelda’s.
So there next console will require alot more new games And they will be more expensive to make
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Mr Hyde
Member
The success with Switch doesn't guarantee that Nintendo will stick to the concept. They are unpredictable and could very well go in another direction.
Mozza
Member
Totally different situations, they have done very well with the Switch, they have got a more casual audience to buy traditional games, pretty sure they are waiting for the tech and right price, to release a Switch 2 on par power wise with the PS4 poss Pro.
I'd think they'd be fine given they're using an off the shelf Tegra for Switch. Even if nVidia isn't the solution, wouldn't they be fine with an off the shelf Snapdragon?
GBA was backwards compatible with Gameboy/Gameboy Color and 3DS was backwards compatible with DS. (And for what it's worth, DS was backwards compatible with the GBA). If anything, it would be the Switch's successor's successor where you'd have to be concerned.
belmarduk
Member
This is absolutely it. They are worried about having another Wii U on their hands.
I've been debating getting a Switch but have been reluctant to do so because I'm afraid Nintendo will do something stupid with the Switch successor and buying a Switch now would just be pointless.
If Nintendo confirms they will have backwards compatibility then I am much more interested in their future consoles.
If Nintendo confirms they will have backwards compatibility then I am much more interested in their future consoles.
ResurrectedContrarian
Suffers with mild autism
All it needs is a system-seller on the level of Breath of the Wild.
BOTW2 probably can't be the same kind of generation-defining landmark, though, so they should consider the other franchises. Perhaps the next real Metroid Prime, but that is probably too niche.
BOTW2 probably can't be the same kind of generation-defining landmark, though, so they should consider the other franchises. Perhaps the next real Metroid Prime, but that is probably too niche.
Icymanipulator
Member
Don’t call it anything weird. Just call it Switch 2, whatever they do they can’t have a Wii U situation on their hands again.
Feel Like I'm On 42
Member
Oled screen is a must too now that we've all seen how much better everything looks on it!
Feel Like I'm On 42
Member
I don't trust Nintendo when it comes to BC
kiphalfton
Member
Lol at “building long-term relationships”. Yeah right, Nintendo just wants to bleed Nintendo fanboys dry.
Get comfy, cuz at this rate there probably won’t be a successor to the switch for another 5 years.
Get comfy, cuz at this rate there probably won’t be a successor to the switch for another 5 years.
Putonahappyface
Gold Member
A GameCube on steroids and I'd would bite.
CrustyBritches
Gold Member
Most Nintendo handhelds have launched with BC with the previous gen. GBC could play GB, GBA could play GB and GBC, DS could play GBA, and 3DS can play DS. There's exceptions with revisions, but at launch BC is the normal for Ninty handhelds.
ProgenitorCastle
Banned
Sounds to me like they're putting thought into the next console transition. Isn't this the first console transition under the current Nintendo president? If so I can see how he'd be cautious in launching his company's first new console under his leadership
Doctor Hades
Member
It's pretty obvious that the next Nintendo console has to be a more powerful version of the Switch called, simply, Switch 2; not necessarily a 4K powerhouse to rival the Xbox Series X and PS5 but just offering a more refined portable (with OLED screen) and docked TV experience with 1080p portable and 1440p docked support (with image upscaling for 4K TVs). Nintendo also need to learn to use basic features such as "anti-aliasing" and "anisotropic texture filtering", something that has been around for 20+ years but which Nintendo continually ignore in the vast majority of their games. They can also fix the notorious Joycon analogue stick drift as well while they're at it. This machine can also be backward compatible, supporting all the Gen 1 Switch games, which is surely what everyone wants rather than having to buy all the games again (as happened on Switch with its many Wii U ports).
I know Nintendo like to innovate but I fear that a whole new system is not what people would want these days, especially as the Xbox Series consoles and PS5 both run last-gen games. If Nintendo ignore that then I fear they could have another Wii U flop on their hands.
I know Nintendo like to innovate but I fear that a whole new system is not what people would want these days, especially as the Xbox Series consoles and PS5 both run last-gen games. If Nintendo ignore that then I fear they could have another Wii U flop on their hands.
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Tiago Rodrigues
Member
Call it Switch 2...don't over complicate things.
It's working for Sony since day one.
You know by its name what you're getting.
It's working for Sony since day one.
You know by its name what you're getting.
Stamps1646
Member
Come on Nintendo, Switch Pro next year.
I'm still using my original Switch from 2017, I need more juice.
MORE POWAHHHHHHH! ヾ(≧◡≦)ゞ
I'm still using my original Switch from 2017, I need more juice.
MORE POWAHHHHHHH! ヾ(≧◡≦)ゞ
Mr Reasonable
Completely Unreasonable
Everyone talking about backwards compatibility are forgetting that Nintendo have spent 50 years selling the same games over and over again, starting again with each generation.
They're probably sweating trying to come up with a way of making BC impossible but making it seem like they tried. Then super Mario 64 for £50 can appear.
The new console will probably have to be less powerful than the switch.
They're probably sweating trying to come up with a way of making BC impossible but making it seem like they tried. Then super Mario 64 for £50 can appear.
The new console will probably have to be less powerful than the switch.
IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
It's not as simple as just "new machine, backwards compatible" for Nintendo to maintain stable and increasing financial numbers.
Nintendo absolutely plans to do Switch 2 w/ BC, and not re-invent the wheel.. can read between the lines of some of the statements they made during this quarterly call.
A new device on the market still disrupts things for you; you have to keep the users who can't buy one still buying games on your old machine, while making things "Cross-gen" and trying to handle a new console design/BOM challenges/etc. Everything from sales and marketing to tech support now needs a 2 pronged approach.. and a new gen console even w/ BC can still take the wind out of stuff like software sales, as lots of people are eager for a new machine that is out of stock and they wait until they can find one to start buying your games again as they don't want to play them "on the old machine."
Nintendo absolutely plans to do Switch 2 w/ BC, and not re-invent the wheel.. can read between the lines of some of the statements they made during this quarterly call.
A new device on the market still disrupts things for you; you have to keep the users who can't buy one still buying games on your old machine, while making things "Cross-gen" and trying to handle a new console design/BOM challenges/etc. Everything from sales and marketing to tech support now needs a 2 pronged approach.. and a new gen console even w/ BC can still take the wind out of stuff like software sales, as lots of people are eager for a new machine that is out of stock and they wait until they can find one to start buying your games again as they don't want to play them "on the old machine."
IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
They spent some of that 50 years releasing several series of machines with BC.. from both their mobile line and their home console line. (GameCube -> Wii -> Wii-U had full BC.)
They know they need BC... they'd be idiots if they don't go that route.. true arrogance.. and then yes, they have a big reason to be concerned.. but I think their statements all directly sound like plans for BC to me not the other way around.
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Yeah, IIRC the Switch was basically Iwata's last console.
ProgenitorCastle
Banned
Yup, it will be this next console that'll truly show what the current Nintendo leadership is capable of. Whatever they do, I hope they make reliable controllers...I don't play as much on my Switch OLED compared to other systems because of drift
Unknown?
Member
And give it roman numerals to confuse the masses! SUPER Mario Kart VIII Deluxe.
newtypepilot
Member
"we realize milking fanboys with the same software and underpowered hardware isn't going to fly"
It's all in the wrist
Member
The video game market is beyond the niche fanboy phase.
Hey Blinkin
Member
Just make a beefier Super Switch with the ability to play 3DS/DS/Switch games and I'll buy it day one!
The current console isn't broken, so don't try to get fancy and fix it with some crazy ass new control scheme as the primary method for controls.
They'll never win the graphics arms race, so give players those sweet Nintendo IPs on the go and they'll always remain in most households.
The current console isn't broken, so don't try to get fancy and fix it with some crazy ass new control scheme as the primary method for controls.
They'll never win the graphics arms race, so give players those sweet Nintendo IPs on the go and they'll always remain in most households.
thats actually a plus, achievements and trophies are retarded as fuck.
bitbydeath
Member
Switch Artificial Reality Unit
Switch ARU for short.
EverydayBeast
ChatGPT 0.1
The beauty of Nintendo is there games not consoles.
Elder Legend
Banned
I am a huge fan of achievements and trophies. So the joke is on you.
Exactly. They could have released a Switch Pro or something with backwards compat but then how would they resell the same games yet again.
Zeroing
Banned
it will be called switch switcher and you will love it !!!!
Nintendo does not follow the rules, they are on their own bubble.
Craig of War
Banned
They still selling 20 plus million Switch yearly
just make a Switch Pro with upgraded specs that it
just make a Switch Pro with upgraded specs that it
V4skunk
Banned
All Nintendo needs to do is make sure physical and games downloaded on your account work on the next gen system! They went x86 so they would be stupid not to.
And it will print money for sure.
Switch 2 will be 350.
And it will print money for sure.
Nintendo probably will make a custom chip for the next console. Nintendo love to make efficient hardware.
Switch 2 will be 350.
Super Switch.
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lh032
I cry about Xbox and hate PlayStation.
i think Nintendo have a weird mindset that "duhh we have to innovate every gen"
But yea, improve the performance of switch, better controller analog and BOOM!
Sales.
chromhound
Member
Mario Kart 8 4K Edition
Fbh
Member
I don't see how they could fail doing a safe and standard follow up to the switch.
-Call it Switch 2.
-More powerful, sleeker than switch 1
-Fully backwards compatible with Switch games (both physical and digital).
-Have a 1 or 2 years transition period where games release on Switch 1 and 2 with
-Call it Switch 2.
-More powerful, sleeker than switch 1
-Fully backwards compatible with Switch games (both physical and digital).
-Have a 1 or 2 years transition period where games release on Switch 1 and 2 with
James Sawyer Ford
Member
I don't think their strategy is complicated
Switch 2 with backwards compatibility whenever the next node shrink hits.
I mean what else are they going to do? They used to innovate with stuff like the Wii/N64 but they're basically way behind on VR and next-gen power. Their strategy of adopting a dual handheld/TV hybdrid works well enough and is fairly conservative, even though I wish they'd go back to being extremely innovative technically like in the N64 era
Switch 2 with backwards compatibility whenever the next node shrink hits.
I mean what else are they going to do? They used to innovate with stuff like the Wii/N64 but they're basically way behind on VR and next-gen power. Their strategy of adopting a dual handheld/TV hybdrid works well enough and is fairly conservative, even though I wish they'd go back to being extremely innovative technically like in the N64 era
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CS Lurker
Member
Just make better motion controls; release a proper VR headset (using the switch 2 unit to power it); have a present-day OS with basic social features (f* that smartphone app); full backwards compatibility; and last but not least: use f*ing dedicated servers on your online games.
よろしく お願いします
よろしく お願いします
Sorcerer
Member
I feel Nintendo finally painted themselves into a corner with the Switch (possibly a good corner) and any future console is just going to be an iteration of the Switch. I can't see the majority of the fanbase being happy if they try something more traditional and abandon the portability aspect. They are probably stuck in this console design for good.
Sorcerer
Member
I think if Nintendo does not rush to get a Switch 2 out anytime soon, they will build up so much anticipation that the Switch 2 should be an automatic success, barring the fact that most at the top of hill usually coming tumbling down due to arrogance once they get up there. In other words as long as they don't make unfriendly consumer mistakes with the next console they should be fine.
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