metalslimer
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I don't think many were expecting it to be.
Nintendo sells 1.2 million hardware units (400K Wii U, 300K Wii, 275K DS, 250K 3DS)
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I don't think many were expecting it to be.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
And?
gaming_noob
Member
In a worse economy with very little hype, not bad at all.
AranhaHunter
Banned
Hmmm if they are to relaunch they would relaunch with a tablet and phone SKU, otherwise, there's no point. A PS tablet as you suggest should be something like wikipad (i.e. a detachable gamepad) IMO. Of course they would run into some issues, such as dual OS with android or just vita OS? The former opens up the vita to piracy but has millions of apps, the latter is more secure but the app store is non existent. They would also have to address the need for yearly refreshes as that is seen as a necessity for tablets and phones nowadays. Basically vita's 4th iteration would have more ram and power than the launch unit and would play games that the launch unit would not play. They would have to move away from the dedicated handheld market. It's the move they should take if they want to revive the thing, but I honestly think they should just let it die. The relaunch move might be too costly and is not guaranteed to succeed.
Barack Lesnar
Banned
Found it: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=483760&highlight=heavy&page=5
read the replies for a good chuckle
Lack in software titles that attracts all ages. The last 3DS game I enjoyed was SM3DL. I gave mine away since then since I wasn't using it and don't plan on buying one until compelling software is flourishing on the system. As soon as Animal Crossing is out, we'll probably see a boost in the 3DS sales.
I don't get why people are claiming that Wii and DS sales are somehow a bad thing. Nintendo makes money off of those sales just as readily as they do off of WiiU and 3DS sales. From Nintendo's perspective, they are making good money either way. Heck, they probably make more money off each individual Wii sold than each WiiU right now.
From the consumer's perspective, there is no particular reason to demand the end of production of older consoles and handhelds either. There are legitimate reasons for someone to want a cheaper option this early in a console's life-cycle.
From the consumer's perspective, there is no particular reason to demand the end of production of older consoles and handhelds either. There are legitimate reasons for someone to want a cheaper option this early in a console's life-cycle.
Canis lupus
Member
What, more DS than 3DS sold?
I think we all know the Wii U is not a repeat of the Wii. But the system is the successor to the Wii so it will find a market. The real test is next holiday season. How does the Wii U stack up against the next Xbox and Playstation? I expect at least a 50 dollar price drop by Holiday 2013, so the Wii U Basic will be $249 and the Wii U deluxe will be $299 going up against possibly $499 MS and Sony systems. Maybe $399, but if both are pushing tech like we think it's going to be tough to be at $399 and not take a decent loss.
And Wii was completely sold out.
mariosbrother
Member
I agree. The digital distribution model inherent with smartphones is really changing things from the perspective that consumers don't even have to care about the underlying software platform. I think consumers are smart enough to know that iOS apps will not run on Android phones, but they're not necessarily paying attention to what version iOS they're running relative to a particular piece of software. The impetus is on the software provider to keep their software up to date, and digital distribution means the consumer can get that update as soon as it's ready. It will be interesting to see what effect this has on the video game industry.
PopcornMegaphone
Banned
Perhaps I'm missing something, but maybe Nintendo just shipped more Wii units than WiiU units? Perhaps they couldn't produce more WiiU's before the launch.
It's Carl, seriously you need to ask
No idea how anyone can determine whether these are good or bad WiiU numbers.
Version 3.0
Member
What was the tracking period for "November" on the NPD calendar that year? It may have been 10/23 through 11/19. My own retail calendar had an extra week that year, as it does this year, but I think NPD does the extra week thing in January.
Right. I think people forget the slow starts from the HD twins last generation.
I think it is very clear Nintendo is gearing up towards holiday 2013. I expect Retro and 3D Mario at the very least.
And would've sold more had it not've been supply constrained?
Coldnoodle
Member
:lol
No but most expected if the could ship 500k systems they would sell out with ease. The Wii U has less demand than the 360 launch to be honest which did not sell much less and was supply constrained.
This is sounding a lot like the PS3 launch. Defend bad numbers and demand with excuses. I am waiting for the this will save the Wii U list.
Nintendo is most to blame here they were arrogant like Sony. They though they could just ship a new system and sell out with ease. They did not even market the machine at all or educate casual gamers this is not a Wii add on.
DeaconKnowledge
Member
Another thing I don't understand is this "Wii U bomba, i'm seeing them in stores".
Nintendo has said that they'll be keeping the retail channels flooded with these things. How many stories have we heard of the console selling out in a location, only to be replenished the next week?
Nintendo doesn't want to get bitten with the Wii U the way they did with the Wii last gen - unprecedented demand, no supply to fulfill it.
Anecdotal yes, but the Toys R Us I bought mine from sold out of their initial allotment the first day - then got another shipment the following day.
Nintendo has said that they'll be keeping the retail channels flooded with these things. How many stories have we heard of the console selling out in a location, only to be replenished the next week?
Nintendo doesn't want to get bitten with the Wii U the way they did with the Wii last gen - unprecedented demand, no supply to fulfill it.
Anecdotal yes, but the Toys R Us I bought mine from sold out of their initial allotment the first day - then got another shipment the following day.
So you admit they didnt even market the machine, we are in a worse economy and it still sold better than 360 ps3 ds 3ds vita at launch. I would say thats not bad going.
He's implying that demand was higher for it.
I doubt they'll do it too fast since it's easy money for them at this point even if they're eating away at the 3ds...
Just like the PS2 outselling the PS3 was a good thing? It is bad right now for nintendo but not all is lost right now. They need to do kinect like marketing blitz to inform gamers the Wii U is a new console and what it can do.
Grats man. Now he might not post back here again.
nextgeneration
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Count Dookkake
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I strongly doubt he's lying about Wii sales, heh
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
That could be argued for the original Wii as well.
Since the supply wasn't there, it's pointless to bring up because we have no idea what those numbers would have been for either console.
gaming_noob
Member
Just playing with you Carl. No intention of antagonizing you.
Joseph Flemming
Member
The 3DS has been profitable since August, WiiU is profitable with just one game sold.
lunchwithyuzo
Banned
Not badly, the real constraints were in the following Q1 when shipments dried up due to manufacturing difficulties. At launch 360 wasn't too hard to find, and reseller prices were pretty low through that Christmas.
DeaconKnowledge
Member
I didn't outsell the Wii. Bomba.
I would say it is a bad thing because they had this holiday season and alone and a chance to build a huge lead before MS and Sony can launch. The 360 was supply constrained and had more demand for it than the Wii U.
This is what usually happens with consoles the leader gets to cocky and blow it. Nintendo is blowing its chance to build up a very large lead. These sales are not very good no matter how people want to spin it.
ScreenSplitter
Member
But see that logic just infuriates me. Example;
"The Pokemon series will sell more on DS. We'll make another DS one."
Can we perpetually expect DS installments of Pokemon for years to come then? My understanding was that Pokemon was so popular a series, people would buy new hardware for it. Isn't it worth greatly increasing sales of 3DS hardware at the small risk of people not buying the game?
DeaconKnowledge
Member
Uh no.
The 360 was badly supply constrained from launch. The company I worked for had an exclusive contract with Microsoft and they still couldn't get any kit during the launch. The CEO of our company had to beg, borrow, and steal to get a unit for his kid.
A lot of people were calling that a botched launch because MS could presumably have sold a lot more units if they could get them into the channel.
How could you possibly know this?
not to be an apologist but America has always been slowest part of the world to adopt new technologies, so whereas DS is basically part of a long gone past in Japan, America is still interested in taking advantage of the deals, I think I remember this happening with the PS2 also, it selling decently in the US when it was already phased out everywhere else.
I think WiiU and 3DS will be fine next year. they won't repeat the success of their predecessors but they'll be alive and kicking despite smartphones and negativity.
I think WiiU and 3DS will be fine next year. they won't repeat the success of their predecessors but they'll be alive and kicking despite smartphones and negativity.
RurouniZel
Asks questions so Ezalc doesn't have to
But does not come with the necessary controller to do so. So if you never owned a Wii that's an added $60 at least.
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
This can't be surprising to anyone. I expected it to be around that number. What is going to matter now is if all the units we see everywhere are actually getting sold in a timely manner
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
No way to know this, and as others have said supply didn't dry up until after Christmas.
Also, these sales are fine. I disagree with a TON of what Nintendo has done with this console, but to say these sales are "not very good" is wrong.
In the end, Nintendo will be fine. Their first-party games are what sell consoles. I actually worry more about Sony or MS because I don't think the market can currently contain two consoles that are almost identical in power (as it appears they are going to be), which sucks.
He personally wanted it more so he extrapolated.
PS3s were selling much higher on ebay in its first week than what the Wii U has been, and we know how much the PS3 struggled to sell afterwards.
Nothing is clear right now, but all signs are negative for the Wii U currently.
Then again, the PS3 was $599. But I do remember PS3s going to for over 1K on ebay.
Nintendo sell 500k worth of handhelds in a week or so.
"Handhelds are dead"
"Nintendo should stop making them"
Am I the only one confused at that?
Signs are negative for the Wii U!
"Handhelds are dead"
"Nintendo should stop making them"
Am I the only one confused at that?
*Highest selling first week in NA since the Wii/DS*
Signs are negative for the Wii U!
They have a year if not more headstart, they are selling to the core market at launch they were never going to repeat the wii hype no console ever will again. Its how they play it going into next year which will determine the success of the machine.