HackTheSlash
Member
If Switch VR is happening, id expect simple games. Duck Hunt VR? Perhaps Wii Sports VR?
-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
Nintendo Switch Discussion Thread (Question of the Day, Countdown, etc)
- Thread starter IntelliHeath
- Start date
- Status
Oh, never saw it, it seems to be pretty much focused at Switch.
It wouldn't be surprising to see Tekken 7 on Switch.
cereal_killerxx
Junior Member
I'm hoping for budget friendly model for $200. Seems like a long shot, but it wouldn't surprise me if Nintendo sold the Switch as a loss to regain a fan base at this point.
Skittzo0413
Member
I'm assuming it being today's big story indicates that "coming soon" means today?
Eh, I don't really see being spoiled about the hardware itself as an issue, but I do agree that I hope some games don't get spoiled.
The marketing/power question is simple i think.
We live in a world where people have access to information on internet and such, at least the group of people who will buy a next gen console in its first year.
For that group, the comparison will be the most important factor, except for the exclusives of course but the guys buying for exclusive first party games are already decided or for a camp anyway.
Switch is already out of that whole contest anyway.
I unfortunately doubt there is a large market (i can be absolutely wrong) for XBO/PS4 gamers who would like to play on the go, and don't already have also a 3ds. That means, of you have a 3ds already, you're part of the switch audience anyway, that's not a problem you already have a sony/microsoft console and a nintendo one with it so you're in the traditional Nintendo audience. What i mean is i'm not sure the Switch can gain a new market with that aspect. Cause the chance is, as you see a lot on this board, people who don't own a Nintendo portable, don't care for portable gaming. They are fine playing on their big tv.
The chance Nintendo has at a new audience, i think, is more associated to the local multiplayer. Cause there IS a new ground here. For strong community games, where people are in group of friends playing online. It can be a great occasion to have party and play (even outside in summer) together physically.
So the real strategy here for Nintendo wouldn't be to try to have all AAA big budget games on Switch (there is nothing wrong if they can have it of course) but rather all the community multiplayer games!! Overwatch, Destiny, even things like rts if possible etc.. All the big esport games to.
I'm hoping from their communication that they get that point.
We live in a world where people have access to information on internet and such, at least the group of people who will buy a next gen console in its first year.
For that group, the comparison will be the most important factor, except for the exclusives of course but the guys buying for exclusive first party games are already decided or for a camp anyway.
Switch is already out of that whole contest anyway.
I unfortunately doubt there is a large market (i can be absolutely wrong) for XBO/PS4 gamers who would like to play on the go, and don't already have also a 3ds. That means, of you have a 3ds already, you're part of the switch audience anyway, that's not a problem you already have a sony/microsoft console and a nintendo one with it so you're in the traditional Nintendo audience. What i mean is i'm not sure the Switch can gain a new market with that aspect. Cause the chance is, as you see a lot on this board, people who don't own a Nintendo portable, don't care for portable gaming. They are fine playing on their big tv.
The chance Nintendo has at a new audience, i think, is more associated to the local multiplayer. Cause there IS a new ground here. For strong community games, where people are in group of friends playing online. It can be a great occasion to have party and play (even outside in summer) together physically.
So the real strategy here for Nintendo wouldn't be to try to have all AAA big budget games on Switch (there is nothing wrong if they can have it of course) but rather all the community multiplayer games!! Overwatch, Destiny, even things like rts if possible etc.. All the big esport games to.
I'm hoping from their communication that they get that point.
I don't think he is lying, he has a very succesful nintendo blog and I think he is clean so far.
RMC seems like a very upstanding guy. He's run GoNintendo for many years now. That doesn't mean we should believe everything regarding leaks/rumors though, as even the best can be mistaken at times.
It's been upa an hour, it's the info from OBe1s video and LKD
http://gonintendo.com/stories/271102-rumor-your-latest-round-of-switch-info-internal-storage-voice
Aaronrules380
Member
I'm pretty sure that's not his "exclusive" story
In fact, it's definitely not since he explicitly said it would be part of his "Today's big story" column
Okami Haundo
Member
Great post! I do think you're focusing a bit too much on what I would consider "core" gamers. Nintendo seems to be aiming straight for the crowd that values mobility and convenience over traditional power. There are millions of people out there who play smartphones games because they don't have the time or patience to even play console games.
When you think about it, console gaming has become quite daunting in recent years. Games have to install from discs, patches take quite a bit of time to download, and playing with friends requires a subscription fee. Local multiplayer games are also hard to find outside of indie games, and those are honestly hard to process for someone who isn't a "gamer". Then you have the idea that you're limited to playing in front of a TV. PS4 may be successful, but it certainly doesn't appeal to everyone who wants to play games.
I think it's extremely clear to see the audience that Nintendo "wants" with the Switch, but only time will tell if they can convince those people to buy.
Skittzo0413
Member
I haven't seen it here yet but someone on Reddit made some rough comparisons using the UE4 settings found the other day:
I believe for the UT example (image 2) the high setting corresponds to Switch docked and medium setting corresponds to undocked, though at 1080p still.
Obviously these are just rough and unoptomized but it shows off the type of downgrades you'd expect when changing settings like these. Doesn't look bad at all honestly.
I believe for the UT example (image 2) the high setting corresponds to Switch docked and medium setting corresponds to undocked, though at 1080p still.
Obviously these are just rough and unoptomized but it shows off the type of downgrades you'd expect when changing settings like these. Doesn't look bad at all honestly.
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
RMC is really trustworthy so Id take what he says as truth. Besides the info will probably come from emily or someone beforehand then him to share it.
if (!) this is what I'll get, I'll be a happy switch owner
TwilightPrincess
Member
Thats good, cause he is only talking the leaked specs which are not complete @ least.
We don't know what customizations Nintendo did, if there is a bigger cache, if the cpu cores are really 4 x A57, the number of cudacores etc. I think "doublespeed fp16" should help with postprocessing and pixelshaders a bit.
JoshuaJSlone
Member
Regardless of what Nintendo chooses to feature at the event, third parties should at least be able to talk about future releases however far ahead they want. Assuming they don't have some new brand of rolling NDA.
*shrug* Wii JP had 17, and only Twilight Princess was a GameCube holdover. At least 12 more released during the next three months, maybe more if they did shitty enough to never chart.
Shit, by this metric Breath of the Wild is already out and Switch might have 5 releases in 2017 total.oti xero said:
It's still selling a ton of copies on those machines, so definitely not all those interested already have it.Neoxon said:
We got spoiled by Nintendo emulating N64 at quadruple original resolution for the last 14 years.Vic said:
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
Probably,
Actually, it's about...Switch advertising in Gamestop stores
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tacbfZPKcRU
Broken Joystick
At least you can talk. Who are you?
Also says official BOTW pre-orders will go up soon.
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
I follow him since the Wi days. I trust him but let's clarify how he himself underline MANY times how these are just RUMORS
purseowner
Member
If advertising that Gamestop receive doesn't have an embargo attached, then I guess we'll know a little more prior to the January event.
I don't agree with the non traditional gamer part of what you say.
Cause if there is something somoene playing on his tablet or phone doesn't want, it's a second device, and even less a device with buttons and all that mess.
Also Nintendo communicates on Zelda, out of all games they have. You can tell me they show this one cause they didn't reveal the other ones but that would be the dumbest move ever. I mean, it was on Jimmy Fallon, for millions of people, for the first time, and they showed a nintendo gamer fantasy, that is absolutly not for casual at all.
They didn't communicated on any nintendoland/wii sport like game.
They are clearly not going at this crowd, OR they will do it later to not hurt their primary audience, but then they'l miss it.
GhostTrick
Banned
This comparisons makes no sense, since they are very limited scenes. Thing is, you have to understand High wont be console settings. There are compromises already made
and even more when the game will push the higher end hardwares.
DrROBschiz
Member
I have a trade in credit of 280+ bucks ready to drop when they start doing preorders
Okami Haundo
Member
I'll definitely agree to disagree with you here. One thing I would definitely point out is that they chose Zelda for Fallon because it's a known quantity for people like us. They've been adamant that they won't talk more details about the Switch until January, and Fallon was them sticking to that claim. If they don't have a Nintendoland/Wii Sports type of game at launch, I will be genuinely surprised. That's just not something that you need to hype for months on end.
By your logic, the audience they want already owns a console and Nintendo wants to be their second device. I have no doubt that people in that scenario will buy a Switch, but I'm fully convinced the Switch will live or die based on the audience I mentioned.
Skittzo0413
Member
For the first one I believe high is at the level PS4 and XB1 settings will be at for a scene this simple. Epic is the highest level in UE4 for all of these settings. For the second image it would be a comparison to PC footage I imagine.
And anyway like I said, the point of those images is to show what kind of downgrades you would expect rather than show exactly what it would look like running on the various hardware.
lwilliams3
Member
People are focused too much in GFLOPS. There are other things that makes a significant difference. RAM quantity, GPU architecture, GPU featureset, and the CPU are a big step up from the Wii U and the other systems of that generation. Raw GPU power aside, it is much closer to the specs of the XB1 and PS4.
Since the display on a portable system is on a smaller screen, their GPUs has traditionally got away with having less raw power than their console "counterpart".
We will see if whatever power of the undocked Switch is enough to simulate a portable-current-gen experience, but the devs/insiders that have been talking haven't discredited that idea.
blu
Wants the largest console games publisher to avoid Nintendo's platforms.
It's plain obvious he's hypothesizing.
Looks good enough for my personal handheld experience
Why a secondary device ?
The primary audience of the switch is 60 millions 3ds owners and some WiiU owners (who are not in the former group, pretty rare)
Their primary goal is to maximize the upgrade of that market.
Ruud_Luiten
Member
The primary audience of the WiiU were 100 million wii owners... and with the tablet you could add 150 million DS owners...
That didn't work out.
Hero of Legend
Member
https://twitter.com/GoNintendoTweet/status/814498518907940864
RMC put it up, apparently it's just advertising-related?
Edit: Beaten.
RMC put it up, apparently it's just advertising-related?
Edit: Beaten.
Skittzo0413
Member
https://twitter.com/GoNintendoTweet/status/814498518907940864
RMC put it up, apparently it's just advertising-related?
Edit: Beaten.
For those who can't watch, he's basically saying that GameStop stores will get their advertising materials (posters, boxes, etc.) next week and there is no embargo on when they can put them up, so expect them to be up next week.
Also official BotW preorders open "soon".
forknknife
Banned
The low 720 looks horrendous though, what scenario is that?
Ruud_Luiten
Member
I pre-ordered last year...
Right but there is a difference between putting your name down on a list, which is what you did, and Nintendo taking official preorders.
Okami Haundo
Member
Just watched Go Nintendo's video! Pretty exciting that Gamestop should be getting promotional stuff soon. I really hope this means we'll have pre-orders for the console right after the reveal event.
Your statement seems to assume that every 3DS owner only games on that system, and doesn't already own a PS4/Xbone... That just doesn't make sense. If that's not what you intended to say, you're validating my previous statement that the Switch is marketed at people who don't have any interest in traditional console gaming.
Nintendo can't (and won't) market a system based solely on the idea of upgrading their existing fans. They have a market that they want and it isn't just current 3DS owners.
I don't think anyone has their name on a list for Switch game pre-orders yet mate... Nintendo has been taking official pre-orders for the Wii-U version of BoTW for quite some time. Ruud was just being a bit sarcastic and you missed the joke.
Your statement seems to assume that every 3DS owner only games on that system, and doesn't already own a PS4/Xbone... That just doesn't make sense. If that's not what you intended to say, you're validating my previous statement that the Switch is marketed at people who don't have any interest in traditional console gaming.
Nintendo can't (and won't) market a system based solely on the idea of upgrading their existing fans. They have a market that they want and it isn't just current 3DS owners.
I don't think anyone has their name on a list for Switch game pre-orders yet mate... Nintendo has been taking official pre-orders for the Wii-U version of BoTW for quite some time. Ruud was just being a bit sarcastic and you missed the joke.
Seems like starting January 1st Nintendo will get more open about the Switch ?
Maybe it's simply meant to ease you into the fact that it won't be available at launch.
Oh well, at least I'll have new Mario and it's coming out in three months.
That sort of thinking.
RetroPlayer
Banned
Really looking forward to Switch.
It sounds like a breath of fresh air in a rather stale generation, so far.
It sounds like a breath of fresh air in a rather stale generation, so far.
There may be new artworks of Mario, due to the new game being at launch for Switch.
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
Pretty sure preorders will open the day after the January 12th event so Friday. If I remember Wii U was the same day or day after and was open for a few days I think? PS4 Xbox One same way.
That would be so goofy
That would be so goofy
That's about what I expect.
I agree with you. Didn't a rep from Bethesda say they showed him a software demo and it was one of the best he'd ever seen?
I don't necessarily think it will be a Wii Sports or Nintendo Land type minigame collection. But I do think we'll see something that plays on the modular/hybrid aspects of the device that includes a multiplayer component with the joycons. It will also likely be super-accessible for novice gamers.
But didn't Laura (or was it Emily?) say the reason for BotW being delayed was localization issues? Perhaps the game is delayed in PAL but will be available at launch in NA and Japan. Also makes sense that Laura's info is biased toward Europe, since she is European.
Then again, everyone seems convinced of Mario being a launch title, and it's not like Nintendo to release a main Mario game alongside a Zelda game. And Mario moves more hardware units than Zelda anyway.
Then again, everyone seems convinced of Mario being a launch title, and it's not like Nintendo to release a main Mario game alongside a Zelda game. And Mario moves more hardware units than Zelda anyway.
- Status