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Nintendo Switch Discussion Thread (Question of the Day, Countdown, etc)
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Say what you want about 3rd party games but having both SM and Zelda out at launch will absolutely ensure that a ton of consoles will be sold early on which will give 3rd parties a good reason to make games. The lack of Wii U's out in the wild destroyed that systems chances at 3rd party support. I mean it would have sold out at launch either way but with those 2 powerhouse games available the system will move a f-ton of units for a long time to come after launch. The Switch NEEDS to be a home run on launch day, it just has to be.
Well, Zelda and Mario will not be the only games. There are still Skyrim, Rabbits RPG, MK8 and whatever is not annouced yet, then, there will be a lot of games to launch in the following months. If they want to have a great launch, Mario and Zelda will be the greatest ever.
Let's agree to disagree then. I'm not saying it will happen nor that I believe it will, but I don't see the problem if it happens depending on the circumstances.
TheOnlyOneHeEverFeared
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What metroid hints?
Now don't get me wrong, I'd be down for both Zelda & Mario on Day 1. I'm just concerned that it'd create more problems than it would prevent.
Exactly, they won't at all. Both games 2 years later will be selling for the exact same price and both will be selling in the millions of copies as usual.
Plinko
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I worry about Mario and Zelda for launch, not because I think it will drown other stuff out, but I worry about future release droughts.
Nintendo having full focus on one system will help, but what is going to release the rest of the year?
Launch: Mario/Zelda
Summer: Mario Kart 8 Switch and Smash ports???
Fall: Pikmin (Liam Robertson said on Twitter today this was happening) and ???
Winter: ???
Nintendo needs like a game a month for this thing to prevent droughts unless they are 100% certain they have enough third party support to fill the gaps.
We know Metroid is probably coming. I desperately want a new Animal Crossing but my guess is that is next year. Luigi's Mansion 3 has been rumored--maybe that's a holiday title?
Nintendo having full focus on one system will help, but what is going to release the rest of the year?
Launch: Mario/Zelda
Summer: Mario Kart 8 Switch and Smash ports???
Fall: Pikmin (Liam Robertson said on Twitter today this was happening) and ???
Winter: ???
Nintendo needs like a game a month for this thing to prevent droughts unless they are 100% certain they have enough third party support to fill the gaps.
We know Metroid is probably coming. I desperately want a new Animal Crossing but my guess is that is next year. Luigi's Mansion 3 has been rumored--maybe that's a holiday title?
Tom Nook Sawyer
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Liam's saying it'll be launch too
https://twitter.com/Doctor_Cupcakes/status/815990693483180032
He'll, of course, be wrong...again
The WiiU sold well at launch, though. It was after that that the sales dropped off a cliff when there was a draught of software. The thing Nintendo needs to do is maintain software output to maintain the momentum. To keep the momentum up, it would make sense to have a big title in the summer and one at launch.
Skyrim x Rabbids releases in March.
You're forgetting about Pokémon Stars, Xenoblade X, & Super Mario Maker.
metalslimer
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Based on recent Zelda history, it's not the series that had typical Nintendo legs. Given its the biggest game Nintendo has ever created I just imagine they want to give that game a bit of breathing room by itself. May-June seems like a great time as it also avoids the Q1 rush of titles
You practically ignore something that's already happening. SMR is going down the tops and there is less and less writing about it as we speak.
And this is not Pokemon GO, which with each update brings back a big number of players who can actually play the game. The updates impact is mostly limited to the buyers of the game.
What?
Super Mario Maker just got released on 3DS, they're not gonna release it AGAIN on Switch!
metalslimer
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Of course they will haha. I don't know if they would want to release it this year though.
I see something like this being a pretty good lineup:
Launch: Splatoon, 3D Mario
May-June- Zelda
Then sprinkle the Wii U rereleases throughout the rest of the year
Holiday: Pokemon Stars and probably something else.
Nobody knows, but Laura seems to have heard that Retro's next game isn't Metroid. Either way, I wouldn't mind if Retro's next game was another Donkey Kong game. It'd be a nice way to finish off the Returns trilogy, & I'm sure they'd deliver a quality product.
Also, props for finding my tweet.
Yeah, I think this would be beneficial for 3rd parties post March. Having a huge launch and a big install base out of the gate will be more appealing for 3rd parties going forward.
And if you're done with Zelda and Mario after 2 weeks as someone said earlier, buy Skyrim and Mario&Rabbids and there will be no droughts.
AquaWateria
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purseowner
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Playtonic will do that, I reckon.
Diprosalic
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she was wrong about Zelda which means she's almost certainly wrong about Mario. I don't think Nintendo would ever launch those two together day 1. That's just not happening. (i'd be happily proven wrong as i'd love Mario over Zelda)
Which then means she could be wrong about anything. I don't trust her anymore when it comes to SW lineup.
Yep, this makes the most sense for everyone especially for third-party and more so if the Zelda delay in Europe is a thing.
Of course it's going down the charts, that was inevitable. It will still function as a marketing tool for Mario Switch just fine. There is no need to release Mario Switch RIGHT NOW because Mario Run launched. That's short-term thinking. That's not what Nintendo does. For Nintendo Mario Run will become a staple of the App Store. Something people will get whenever they buy a $15 iTunes gift card. They're fine with it not being #1 all the time. That's just impossible with an asking price of $10.
Sure about that?
Diprosalic
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lets see YL first before we hype them up. i'm concerned it looks terrible in some parts.
How does this work? She self-corrected, so she wasn't wrong, but rather found out that there was different insider information available (if we accept her having insider info), which she has thoroughly explained. She still has EU sources saying June, and she is open about that discrepancy, so saying she is wrong is a bit unfair. If someone else corrected her on it, you would have a point, but she came out with it herself and adjusted her leak to that new information.
ArchedThunder
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So Wii U ports have been discussed a lot, but what 3DS HD remasters would you like to see on Switch?
Ocarina of Time, Majora's Mask and A Link Between Worlds are at the top of the list for me.
I'd also be interested in a Kid Icarus Uprising remaster that offered a twin stick control scheme.
Ocarina of Time, Majora's Mask and A Link Between Worlds are at the top of the list for me.
I'd also be interested in a Kid Icarus Uprising remaster that offered a twin stick control scheme.
I get what people are saying about spreading out the hits but if they are truly mostly making games for one console now they will have more great titles coming in the Summer and holiday season. IMO Zelda is NOT enough of a beloved title for gamers who are not Nintendo crazy like we are. You can't hold back Mario, look at what just happened with the iOS version of Mario. Now is the perfect time for them to strike and get some of those casual players that loved Mario run to turn into Nintendo hardware buyers. And they aren't going to hold back Zelda so IMO both should release day one or within the same month at the very most.
Diprosalic
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if she corrected something it means it was wrong before.
okay, lets see Mario at launch then, i'd be soooo happy to eat crow on that one.
Tom Nook Sawyer
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Mario did nothing for the Wii U at the Wii U's launch; Zelda was huge at the Wii's (and Mario Galaxy following the next year didn't seem to hurt it any)
TheOnlyOneHeEverFeared
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Am excited.
Is personally like to see an OoT remake for the 20th anniversary next year.
I would love for the Fire Emblem games to come to Switch one way or another. There are two gens if you can name it that way (Awakening and Fates) that are on the 3ds, so either one (or both) on the Switch would be really nice.
Third time's the charm
DecoReturns
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3D Mario is different situation and it was the Wii U.
I don't believe Mario is coming but I feel we can't judge based on the Wii U launching with New Super Mario U.
HackTheSlash
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Tom Nook Sawyer
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He didn't specify 3D Mario. Even so, the 2D games sell better.
My point was merely that you don't need Mario to be a success at launch, and Zelda's proven it can fill the role
JoshuaJSlone
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As some other poster reminded us recently, it seems like at one point Switch was seriously planned for late 2016, and thus that we shouldn't be surprised to see some late 2016 third party games due to that. Skyrim SE would fit that idea.
Considering we only have to look as far back as their current portable system to see an Ocarina of Time remake, I doubt another one is coming anytime soon.Trevelyan said:
Super Mario Maker is coming to the Switch, almost without any doubt. But probably not at launch. I'm sure they'll add a good deal of new content to make it the definitive edition.
I would absolutely love it if OOT and MM 3D were re-released on the Switch, but I don't see it happening. They would need to be retooled for a non-touch interface and have significant graphical upgrades for TV play. They look wonderful on Citra so this is possible...
I think we're more likely to see N64 Virtual Console releases of them.
But if that Europe delay is true there is hardly any good reason to use Zelda at launch if you got to choose one game at launch which they most likely will.
Yeah, true, you can look at it that way. It is physically impossible for all information someone leaks to always be correct, either because the intel was wrong or because the situation changed or is rather complicated. As for the Zelda case, she mentions there are two different versions of the story from within Nintendo (NOA vs. NOE) mentioning different launch dates. If she finds out that this discrepancy exists, it is only commendable of her to report it.
You can take this situation, reduce it to the statement "she was wrong about Zelda" and use that to question all her leaks (even if she has a stellar track record outside of this Zelda situation), but that feels unfair to me.
Mario Maker is coming, but I could see it coming around Dec. with a lot of new content and by that time everybody will be ready to buy it again, or they can call it Mario Maker 2 lol
Tom Nook Sawyer
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What delay? People are just conjecturing that based on Laura's original source being European; I'd bet Zelda is the release title worldwide
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