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Nintendo Switch Discussion Thread (Question of the Day, Countdown, etc)
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OrbitalBeard
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I was actually pretty happy with N64, GCN, and Wii third party support. It wasn't amazing, but I was satisfied overall.
I've always owned multiple platforms, but this generation is the first time Nintendo has taken a backseat in my gaming life. It sucks and I hope the combined efforts of all first party developers makes Switch a great platform, despite limited third party efforts.
I was happy on GC and Wii with third parties
Not with N64 nor Wiiu
But in general sounds silly looking at. .. everything we have ever seen to expect normal / multiplatform third party games being announced for a Nintendo console
Especially from western focused dev / events / brands / ps environment
Especially for a Nintendo portable (also) form factor
OrbitalBeard
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Yeah, I think we're all long overdue for a bunch of new Nintendo game announcements.
I kinda hope Nintendo does something similiar to what Sony did for PSX and E3 this year. Basically minimal talking and just showcasing games back to back would be generally good. In that format you can cram a lot of annoucments in as shown through psx.
Nintendo Land 2! Fireworks Boogaloo at home or on the go!
Remember that it's a Switch event, not a games event. There will be a lot of time dedicated to the hardware, don't expect as much software as PSX or E3.
TheDinoman
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Shame Marvel vs. Capcom Infinite probably isn't coming to Switch.
Link and Samus would of been cool console exclusive guest characters for it.
Link and Samus would of been cool console exclusive guest characters for it.
MAtgS
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MvC: The Hydra Chronicles on-rails shooter.
Captain Falcon would be better.
Oh I'm pretty sure there will be at least as much content as today. It will be a huge event no doubt.
What? Isn't Nintendo's philosophy that games are the ones that sell the hardware? Less games than PSX would be pretty sad for a launch event. This is not only about hardware but also about the future support of it, launch line-up, launch period software and long time vision.
I mean they could do both and have a bit more focus on the games. Also is this conference longer than Sony's E3 and PSX conference? Since both of those were 1h 30 min and 1 hr respectively I just wanna know.
They could something like that for E3 I guess.
I'm as excited as anyone else here but I just feel like keeping expectations in check is a good idea. Nintendo still has E3 only a few months afterwards and the Switch would be out/3DS would be heading out by then, I'd expect a lot of big late-2017/2018 announcements to be held back for then with the January event focusing on Mario, Zelda, the Wii U enhanced ports, one or two new surprises and third party games.
Dark Cloud
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Don't expect the Switch event to be all about games.
They have to reveal UI, OS and features for the hardware. It will be a lot of hardware talk and games. It won't be game after game from beginning to end.
They have to reveal UI, OS and features for the hardware. It will be a lot of hardware talk and games. It won't be game after game from beginning to end.
Is E3 more important than Switch? Doesn't Nintendo have enough games in development (considering Wii U being dead since E3 2015) to show for both events?
Launch lineups are never really packed. And I expect the January event wll be focused on launch window. More long term stuff can be shown at E3.
nightmare-slain
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If the switch can't do them both at 60fps i wouldnt bother with it. Playing those two games at 30fps is a horrible experience.
They're both equally important I think. The January event is about Nintendo making the Switch's hardware an attractive proposition and showing off early support, and then E3 should be about assuring people that the Switch will get support after the launch window. I just don't think people should expect all of Nintendo's heavy-hitting surprises to be in January (unless they're launch games of course).
Dark Cloud
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They have a lot of ports to show apparently which isn't good news. People will rag on Nintendo if they show so many Wii U ports.
Correct, it's a hardware event with a launch window focus, people are setting themselves up for disappointment if they think they're getting the long term software picture.
I hope Nintendo knows better than that, really. Even E3 2012 sounds more fun than what you describe.
Jon Carter
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I really, really hope this happens. I wouldn't buy a PS4 for the few games I want but Crash is probably the one I want most. I would buy it day one on Switch.
Dark Cloud
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If BG&E2 is a thing (which I believe it is), then it will be shown and that's a 2018 game the earliest.
There's no way Nintendo only shows launch window games. They know the stakes and I believe Kimishima will show this whole year and atleast a game or two next year.
I'm not saying he's doing full reveals at the event, but they can do a teaser or a small trailer for Retros game with a full reveal at E3 kind of thing.
It's generally the first 6 months or so after a console is released. So for the PS4 and X1 it was Christmas 2013 to Spring 2014.
Which one? If the January Event then it'll be more like Sony and Microsoft's 2013 E3s. If E3 itself then it will be like their 2014 E3s or, to put a Nintendo spin on it, the January 2013 Nintendo Direct. The Switch being out at that point means that they don't have to say anything more about hardware at next year's E3 which is a really good thing for them I think.
What would they show at E3 if they blew all of their big announcements in January?
kunonabi
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That's the assumption, and rationalization for Nintendo taking this year off, but the vast majority of stuff rumored so far is ports.
OrbitalBeard
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This would be a horrible strategy. It killed Wii U's momentum. Nintendo needs to show most, if not all, of their 2017 lineup and they need to tease 2018 content as well.
Save a couple announcements for E3 but go nuts with reveals in January.
The almost two years in between E3 2011's initial reveal and the Christmas 2012 release was what killed the Wii U's momentum, not the hardware-focused event a few months before its release.
And that's why would be so important for Nintendo to show or tease a lot of new games. Because first 6 months would be new 3d Mario, Rabbids Mario RPG and a bunch of Wii U games. Even if you add Pokemon Stars, that's still a "port" more or less.
Nope. Before E3 2012 there was still a lot of good will and not too much negativity. E3 2012 and post E3 2012 up until launch killed it. Because of very few games shown. And practically announcing the drought to come. Which you say should be happening also now.
OrbitalBeard
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I'm talking specifically about software, not the September 2012 event (which was the third public showing for Wii U). Nintendo showed almost nothing pre-launch. It was a joke. To be fair though, part of that was due to Nintendo having nothing ready, which itself was pathetic.
But yes, there were about a million big and little things that ended up killing Wii U early.
Yup.
Dark Cloud
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Nintendo shouldn't put a priority to E3 next year. Save 2 or 3 new surprises for it and that's it. Everything else should be mentioned atleast at the January event.
Just for shits and giggles that would be awesome
This. In theory there should be enough games coming in Q1 and Q2 2018 (before the next E3) to show some in January and some at E3 2017.
I just don't think that Nintendo blowing their entire load in January is a good idea; if it's not a 2017 game they shouldn't show it.
People also seem to be heavily downplaying that the Switch will have a new Mario, a new Zelda and a semi-new Mario Kart in its launch window, games we can all expect to see in January. Those are BIG games yet because two were on Wii U and we've already seen Mario they're being either deliberately or unconsciously made out to be "meh" announcements. A lot of this fear of the January event being another E3 2012 stems from this I think.
OrbitalBeard
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They don't need to show all or even most of their 2018 lineup. Just a few teases, especially if it's something big, like Metroid
yeah I wish
Professor Lexicovermis
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I'd legitimately enjoy a Nintendo Land sequel; played a lot of that with family. But, I have a gut feeling that MvCi will make it to Switch. Just a feeling, ya know?
You've got to think in the long term. Nintendo is nowhere near an E3 2012 situation even if literally all we saw at the January Event was stuff we already know about. Revealing Q3/4 2018 and 2019 games in January would just put them in the exact same situation as with the January 2013 Nintendo Direct, a short-term boost that took a lot of long-term hype away from the console because so many of the Wii U's games came from that Direct.
I always believe. I know I shouldn't. But I do. It'll be a miracle when the next good Metroid happens. I have no reason to think it is coming. But I do.
Then Metroid is shown and I spend the next year or so fretting about why it may not be the Metroid we know and love, hopefully to have my fears unsubstantiated by the content we end up receiving.
Wiiu E3 and September event probably had a similar amount of today PSX event I think
Bring back the classics
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I feel after watching psx experience that hopefully this is what nintendo hopefully will be doing as my name suggests bring back those classics Nintendo!
Wave racer f-zero diddy racing luigis mansion pilot wings etc etc .
Wave racer f-zero diddy racing luigis mansion pilot wings etc etc .
January 2013 was an emergency reaction to Wii U diving into death immediately post launch. Because there were no 1st party games comming post launch except for Pikmin 3. January 2013 Direct didn't tool the long term hype away. Wii U dying day by day did that. You have this terrible mixed up if you think the January 2013 Direct did something bad.
Edit: January 2013 event was trying to repair the mistake of E3 2012 and after. I really hope Nintendo won't need to do any emergency repairs post Switch launch. Because a failed launch is very difficult to turn around. That's why January event is much more important than E3 next year.
Astral Dog
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PSX was a good event, but it really had no effect in wgatever hype i hace for Switch
Like for example these old, ourdated franchises dont need to come back
http://nintendoeverything.com/thq-nordic-working-on-two-projects-for-switch/
Also, I've noticed this from The Walking Dead announcement post on Telltale's blog
https://telltale.com/news/2016/12/e...s---a-new-frontier-epic-two-episode-premiere/
Also, I've noticed this from The Walking Dead announcement post on Telltale's blog
https://telltale.com/news/2016/12/e...s---a-new-frontier-epic-two-episode-premiere/
If third parties don't (can't) announce their games for the NS after the January event, then it should be telling as to where the system will stand overall. The floodgates should open after the event, so games that have been announced by third parties for other systems should be able to be announced for the NS if those games are coming.
I think Nintendo wants to control the message when it's fully revealed, but after that developers can do what they want as far as announcements. Unless they have some special deal with Nintendo.
Let's hope this isn't another Wii U situation where NS versions weren't announced because they're not coming at all. Right now, I don't think that's the case since even games we've seen haven't officially been announced.
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