Exactly, it was an emergency reaction. There's no reason why Nintendo should do the same thing for the Switch because the situation is not the same. You are right, the 2013 Direct didn't negatively affect the Wii U's hype, it actually did its job quite well. However, by revealing so many far-off games it just exemplified the console's poor support and Nintendo's overall lack of readiness.
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Exactly, it was an emergency reaction. There's no reason why Nintendo should do the same thing for the Switch because the situation is not the same. You are right, the 2013 Direct didn't negatively affect the Wii U's hype, it actually did its job quite well. However, by revealing so many far-off games it just exemplified the console's poor support and Nintendo's overall lack of readiness.
OrbitalBeard
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Where are you getting late 2018 and 2019 announcements from my posts? I'm talking teases for a handful of early 2018 titles.
Oh, sorry, I definitely do agree with that. Though only one will do, really, the launch lineup as is doesn't need bolstering too much.
But Wii U was lacking support and Nintendo wasn't ready. January event is no emergency event (I hope). It should show Switch, but it should also show that Nintendo is ready this time around. After 3ds and Wii U launch there is no default assumption that the console will be properly supported after launch, so Nintendo needs to show that it will.
That people buying in the first 3 months have much more to look forward to. This is not about the sales in March (which will be there more or less because is a launch), but also about April, May and June. Nintendo needs those great sales in those months to keep the launch momentum. Those are not easy post launch months, because it's not during holidays. E3 comes already too late for them, so Nintendo needs to launch with a bang, really. Otherwise it will end up in the situation of 3ds (if not Wii U) when Nintendo will need to be reactive to the situation instead of driving it.
I agree. The good part is that it feels like they'll have a lot of support out of the game. Even third party support. How long that lasts is anyone's guess. I think that if the NS can be part of the general third party lineups, then they shouldn't have to do too many reactionary events as there will be a lot of software coming for people to pick up.
Movalpolos
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I might not be able to afford a Switch with all the stuff coming to PlayStation next year, damn.
They better announce some great games that aren't remasters from the Wii U.
They better announce some great games that aren't remasters from the Wii U.
This is another argument towards starting with a bang. It feels like a lot of big publishers are putting 1-2-3 games at launch and then waiting to see the actual sales of the console before committing further.
The thing is that they already are, especially if you count rumours. Wii U ports are ports, yes, but to the majority of people who might want to buy the Switch they are brand new games. To most people the Switch will have a new Smash, Mario Kart, Zelda and more in those first 6 months; by the time those games released for Wii U (and in Zelda's case, get released) the console was already a no-go in many people's eyes. I just think people here on GAF are too stuck in their perspective which is leading them to think the Switch's launch lineup as we know right now is a lot worse than it actually is.
OrbitalBeard
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I think most are fine with the launch lineup, but would like to see more to ensure we're not headed for another classic post-launch desert brought to you by Nintendo.
Astral Dog
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They would need to assure lots of third party support for that, unless you like Wii U games.
Wolfgang Jr
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Agreed. Sony does it, M$ does it. It works.
Show ANYTHING in development to create hype.
Oh, you poor, poor souls. How many years have you been torturing yourselves now? Rather, how many decades?
None of this has any chance of happening. We're all going to buy Switch because Mario and Zelda look good, just like we do for every Nintendo console.
"A Bethesda open world on the NX has no chance of happening"
"From Software being mentioned by Nintendo at all when the NX is revealed has no chance of happening"
Lets wait and see before being needlessly cynical. This year should have shown people that "the way things are supposed to go" are not how things go a lot of the time.
Hey Persona Portable has a history of happening!
Unless the team goes full fanboy, Sony buys exclusivity, or the Switch flops as a portable in Japan, it has every reason to happen.EDIT: Basically, P5P is low hanging fruit as far as support is concerned. If we are at all hopeful about the device, it is a distinct possibility.
It's like we need an inverse version of the infamous Wii U chalkboard meme, at this point. So many things that would "never happen" according to people on GAF already have.
WAit
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I think many will get disappointed in january if they enter the event hoping for unexpected turning points in third party relationships
We can't rule that out yet since some impossible things have happen being announced , especially today with TLOU part 2 and unfortunately Knack 2.
Though I also wouldn't be super positive or confident that every third party game getting recently announced would be on the Switch.
May never know.
And I think many will get disappointed (or rather surprised, in that sense ?) if they expect the same third party relationship as for the late Wii U years. Everything has pointed that it will be different at least at the start.
This. I believe too that they will show all of their launch window games but glimpse/teaser of other games in development for late 2017/early 2018. Not much, just small teasers that will tell don't worry we have games, those 3rd party support and switch will have this IP, this one and this one...
Make one and pop your username on it so we know who's idea it was.
Jonneh3003
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PSX was great, I won't go port begging for Ni No Kuni 2 and the Crash Trilogy even though they aren't listed as exclusives but I do hope Marvel vs Capcom 3 is there launch day one for Switch, could really do with a great fighter on day one.
-shadow-
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It's like mentioning Nintendo and third-parties in the same sentence activates some special part of the brain and it all goes downhill from there.
This should be studied honestly. Maybe every person is born with a section of the brain specifically made for this topic and we haven't realised it yet!
The Abominable Snowman
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*FTFY
Me too! It's clear this is a game meant for the West, and the Switch has a sore need for a breadth of genres so far. It'd also be good to have something else *NEW* announced for it.
But yeah, I have no hope for better 3rd party relations at all. An old, gimped port of a rerelease is the main thing people point to as the turning point for 3rd party releases and I just don't buy it right now.
Pasedo
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Been busy so I'm not up to date with the technical capability analysis out there in the other threads but is it supposed to be easy to Port AAA 3rd party games across to Switch and can we expect smooth 60 fps game play? As long as resolution is decent I'd rather the smoother game play.
Jawbreaker
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Followed by Breath of the Wild on PS4 at E3.
And the long list of confirmed 3rd Party developers and publishers. And the accounts from multiple CEOs and major industry players that the Switch is great. And the fact that that "old gimped rerelease" is one that NOBODY thought would be on a Nintendo console ever.
I wasn't much aware of Ni no Kuni IP since few weeks and was wondering if you think a switch version could be possible ? Level 5 and bandai namco have good relationship with Nintendo in general and I found that the first one came out on DS.
Would love to see it since I'm in love with ghibli's work.
Would love to see it since I'm in love with ghibli's work.
Jonneh3003
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Isn't Infinite listed for a holiday release? UMVC3 comes to PC and Xbox One in March, perhaps even on the same day Switch comes out.
At this point it feels like you really WANT for it to happen so you can be "OMG GUYS I TOLD YOU SO"
OrbitalBeard
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Crash absolutely has a chance of happening. Activision has already published numerous titles from the IP on Nintendo platforms.
And I also think Persona 5 is very likely, though not for quite awhile.
foxuzamaki
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I feel like its only a matter of time before a new console f-zero is announced
If the Switch is powerful enough to run PS4 games without having to be excessively downgraded, then that's the only way it gets AAA third party support. Over the next few years, devs are going to focus more and more on developing for Scorpio and PS4.5, meaning that PS4 and Xbone games will be downgraded versions. Devs aren't going to want to spend a lot of resources further downgrading their games to run on Switch.
Pasedo
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This is what I was also wondering. From what I understand every bit of time working on a game whether it's new development or porting costs significant money and if it isn't cost effective enough for a publisher it'll hinder the 3rd party support in which case if I don't see my AAA 3rd party games on Switch Id still be forced to fork out for another platform. Being positive here though and hope Ninty learnt from the Wii U and has created a way to make porting cost effective for publishers.
I mean don't get me wrong. I love Nintendo games but I'm more excited about the idea of a mobile form factor that has proper non touch controls that can give you full AAA gaming experiences. The PS Vita was supposed to have promised this and as good as Killzone Mercenary was it was still a very watered down console experience.
Jonneh3003
Banned
Why would it be after the other systems release?
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
Nintendo better bring some franchises back on Jan 12th people love the oldies apparently!
You asked and you shall receive.
There's a few things missing and a few things I would have omitted, but overall, yeah, that was about what I expected. Well done.
Pilotwings and Luigis Mansion are on 3DS.
This is one of the slowest gens for major games, people want games and classics are easy to prop up and a hype cycle will make anything sound great.
Old games are a lot easier to rerelease. Making new games is a lot harder and takes more time. It's pretty crazy the amount of remakes and remasters going on these days.
Dark Cloud
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Was this posted?
http://nintendoeverything.com/thq-nordic-working-on-two-projects-for-switch/
THQ Nordic said they're working on two games for the Switch.
http://nintendoeverything.com/thq-nordic-working-on-two-projects-for-switch/
THQ Nordic said they're working on two games for the Switch.
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