bluecapsule
Member
Good to see more Japanese devs supporting Steam. Even the niche stuff has been selling fairly well on Steam based on Steamspy.
NIS FY results. NISA made about 64% of company revenue. Steam/mobile support from NIS
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It was 40% off once, but wasn't featured on the front page on Steam so no-one noticed.
Carpe Fulgur, XSEED, Playism and more all manage to work with Valve to get daily deals and such, which is very effective advertising.
Ignoring your products on Steam for several years, like NISA have done, is guaranteed to result in low interest. Take CladunX2 - there's been no patches to improve controller support or any of the other issues, there's been no push to get it available in other stores such as GOG where it might get more visibility, there's zero Steamworks features (achievements etc), there's no trading cards, there's been no involvement in community events, there's been no communication, and there's been no discounts since 2012.
A game is not guaranteed to be a success if it does do all the above (look at Half Minute Hero 2 for instance) but not doing anything to help your product is always going to lead to a lack of interest.
Hero Prinny
Member
im pretty sure theres some watered down version of Disgaea 1 for mobile in japan but they never did another one in the series. i don't know how well it did and also don't know how much it was watered down either but take that as you will.
Several poor decisions were made down the line leading up to lackluster sales in Japan.
- No PS3 port
- A Vita version not being planned down the line (I don't think so)
- Releasing alongside several other exclusives (Bloodborne, etc.)
Hopefully sales will be stronger in the West where the market is larger. NIS should publish their games on Steam, a lot of people seem willing to buy them.
SerTapTap
Member
Honestly I use so many buttons and set up turns so quickly I can't imagine playing Disgaea on mobile. Properly setting up a turn in Disgaea is a precise, swift operation requiring many buttons. Just because it's turn based doesn't mean it'd be fun to play on mobile.
Which reminds me, I wonder if they'll try and push for more publishing on the NISA side for non-NIS properties. Honestly it seems like localization is healthy as ever even if Japanese gaming itself is in a weird state.
chrominance
Member
Considering NISA lost both the Idea Factory (Neptunia) and the Gust (Atelier, Surge Concerto/Ar Tonelico) franchises, it's kind of crazy to me that NISA now represents the majority of Nippon Ichi's revenue. Like, what does NISA even put out these days besides Disgaea and DanganRonpa? Did The Guided Fate Paradox really sell that much? Are you all hoarding copies of Time and Eternity? Or is their anime/manga/CD localization business that good?
Anyways, Steam support is a really good sign. Glad Japanese publishers are turning to Steam, especially since console and handheld fortunes seem to be in decline over there.
Anyways, Steam support is a really good sign. Glad Japanese publishers are turning to Steam, especially since console and handheld fortunes seem to be in decline over there.
I imagine Europe is a big chunk.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
They always do.
I'm curious on what new IP's they are willing to make and how Disgaea 5 does in the West (Disgaea series gets half of its sales overseas).
Leafhopper
Banned
What do you want the thread to be about then? A bunch of post simply saying "Oh that's good." or "Awesome."? Talking about what games that could actually come out of them "supporting" a platform isn't port begging. This isn't a thread where a game exclusively on the XB1 and someone coming in and saying "I wish this was on the PS4 instead
"I don't really expect a response as this post seems extremely driveby.
Well, they tried to come up with many new IP but most revolves around similar gameplay.
KenzinFive
Member
Would gladly pay for Disgaea on my iPhone. With the amount of time I sink into those games, I've always preferred the portable versions of Disgaea.
RIP NIS on Steam.
Hero Prinny said:
Please no. PS2/3/4 versions that are enhanced with ALL the DLC a la the portable versions but at better resolutions, or don't bother. :/
Lol, wow. How ironically condescending.What do you want the thread to be about then? A bunch of post simply saying"Oh that's good." or "Awesome."? Talking about what games that could actually come out of them "supporting" a platform isn't port begging. This isn't a thread where a game exclusively on the XB1 and someone coming in and saying "I wish this was on the PS4 instead
I don't really expect a response as this post seems extremely driveby.
If you didn't notice, there's a bunch more news about the company than "start supporting Steam", but yeah make excuses
Though I'm not surprised that the general reasoning for why it's not port begging is basically "nuh-uh"
HyperZone<3
Member
Would love Danganronpa on PC, it would probably do rather well there too at any price they want to push it at. It won't happen until Spike-Chunsoft do it themselves though.
It could happen, but probably won't, at least not anytime soon.
It could happen, but probably won't, at least not anytime soon.
Khrysler Jerikho
Member
Looks like all those NISA LEs paid off.
That's a different situation. Fighting games need to be current because of the community that moves with it.
Releasing every single Disgaea would just make more money for them. People would gladly buy every single one of those games.
Leafhopper
Banned
I mentioned Disgaea because the latest one performed badly and people have been asking for Disgaea for years.
All of the posts in this thread aren't begging for specific games. You are right that was condescending and I shouldn't had done that but, by your post had nothing to do with the thread and was whining about the thread.
EDIT: Oh I just saw your edit that you made just start up more drama. I really don't need to hear much from the person that comes into anything regarding the PS4 or anything remotely related to the PS4 and just making snark comments not related to the content of the thread.
Nah I understand that I play fighting games. In the case of ASW though I would be fine if they did release the games right but their PC ports haven't been the greatest.
kiunchbb
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May be the game will be better with mouse control, PC gamers seem to like those kind of indie looking game.
Ugh, more fanboy nonsense.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Brah you know thats made by Spike Chunsoft.....
Leafhopper
Banned
That's the problem though. To the few of us that know who made it that will be nice but, for probably 90% of the people on Steam they might just think it's another Indie platformer and it may not get the attention NIS wants it to have.
"All of the posts in this thread aren't begging for specific games."
Lol, not even worth trying to convince you otherwise when you have this much denial to say this much. Just look at the posts again.
lol, what? I do what now? Who the hell are you mixing me up with?
What I said was the reality of the situation. You didn't give anything substantial as to why it's not port begging, just said it wasn't because reasons.
If you really want to whine over someone noticing that quite a lot of posts yelling out for whatever specific game they want every time a thread like this comes up, then take it somewhere else. All you've done is insult me as your response, so get off your high horse and don't throw the topic off topic because you want to make this into some personal insult fest
Lol, I'm a fanboy now? Wow. Just wanted to note how hilarious a response like that is. Not begging for every game I ever wanted to be released on Steam is a fanboy group now? Who would have thought? I'll leave that there. Just thought it was funny as hell
The thread is about a Jap Dev who wants to start supporting Steam. So ofc we are talking about Title that would make sense to port. Its not that hard to understand or ?
dakkumauji
Member
NISA lost Idea Factory and Gust, but gained Danganronpa and Kadokawa titles.
I imagine that NISA titles have been selling steadily while NIS titles haven't been doing too well in Japan.
Nope. That's just what the steam faithful a have turned it into. You claiming it's as much is proof enough of that. Hence, port begging. Feel free to go ahead and look at OP again.
Again. If people want to make more nonreasons to complain about my observation, take it somewhere else. At this point your just cluttering up the thread with nothing of real substance or notability
Leafhopper
Banned
Did you actually read the thread? Post numbers 3, 4, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 15 and many other posts in this thread aren't about port begging. If you actually read the thread you would know this.
And no I am not mixing you up with anyone.
EDIT: Oh RIP.
Mauricio_Magus
Banned
They should at least bring one of their big games to Steam, I'm sure they'd be surprised by how well Disgaea would sell.
With the PS4 architecture, it's a no brainer to release everything that gets a PS4 release on PC too.
With the PS4 architecture, it's a no brainer to release everything that gets a PS4 release on PC too.
Presumably success on Steam (if they actually make an effort this time) could cause them to look to expand to other digital distributors.
Well, this is one game I was hoping I'd get to play; it should play great with mouse controls.
Weird choice tho, but it's probably the easier game they have to port
PoweredByHentai
Member
Half-Minute Hero as well.
Thats Marvelous not NISA
InfiniteNine
Rolling Girl
Honestly if they implement good mouse controls it'll be the best version of the game. Having beat it on Vita the controls are awful touch or pad for certain second but mouse would be perfect.
Kudo
Member
Yup, that's what I am fearing.
NIS turning into digital-only company and tbh as someone who has good "gaming" PC I'd feel like I should play the "best version" and if they end up supporting 2560x1440 resolutions etc. no real reason to get it for console in that case other than just to own it physically so I'd probably just drop their titles completely.
It's a shame that PC games can't stand on their own legs without digital platform nowadays, except Japanese visual novels.
Just my viewpoint as collector and I know I'm in the minority, Steam release will most likely mean more sales to them.
Steam is not the enemy. If they can sell more copies its good for everyone. They got more money and can produce better and bigger projekts. It dont see why going multi is such problem for many people around here.
Good news today. So much Japanese support for Steam makes me happy.
But like other people in the thread have already stated you have to be able to support your game post release with the PC bells and whistles along with recognizing the market you're going for.
That's why I'm a bit worried about the first title they decided to go with...
But like other people in the thread have already stated you have to be able to support your game post release with the PC bells and whistles along with recognizing the market you're going for.
That's why I'm a bit worried about the first title they decided to go with...
OmegaDL50
Member
Console exclusivity is different then PC releases and more or less two different markets.
The PS4 isn't competing with the PC market, but rather against the XB1.
So games like Dead Rising 3, Ryse, and eventually Street Fighter V despite being exclusive to a specfic console platform still get PC releases.
PoweredByHentai
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Huh, you're right. NISA published Half-Minute Hero for the PSP so I assumed that they did the same for the Steam versions.
Anyway, what some people are forgetting is that NISA also publishes anime and that seems to be selling well for NISA. That said, I need my Love Live 2nd season BDs.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
NISA publishes a lot of great games so I'm glad its made the company a lot of money, though it seems most of it may be due to Danganronpa.
dakkumauji
Member
Oh right, NISA somehow got Love Live (both seasons). Yeah I imagine that's doing amazing for them.
OmegaDL50
Member
It would be interesting. I think a franchise like Disgaea would do well on Steam.
I mean Agarest War got a PC release and it's a SRPG as well.
But can you imagine Disgaea mods, Like instead of caps being level 9999, instead raise the values to 99999
And instead of damage numbers being basically maxing out at 9 Billion.
We could go into the TRILLIONS.
Complete Chaos!
It's not like Disgaea's particularly balanced anyways in the end game, so more and more massive numbers would up the level of craziness.
I mean Agarest War got a PC release and it's a SRPG as well.
But can you imagine Disgaea mods, Like instead of caps being level 9999, instead raise the values to 99999
And instead of damage numbers being basically maxing out at 9 Billion.
We could go into the TRILLIONS.
Complete Chaos!
It's not like Disgaea's particularly balanced anyways in the end game, so more and more massive numbers would up the level of craziness.
PoweredByHentai
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Love Live did so good that they are doing another print run of 1st season Premium Edition.
Why not max out the utility of 64-bit integers?