Disgaea would probably sell better on steam than the recent ps3/vita releases in the west.
NIS FY results. NISA made about 64% of company revenue. Steam/mobile support from NIS
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Disgaea would probably sell better on steam than the recent ps3/vita releases in the west.
Dog Problems
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sörine;164138134 said:
What's wrong with it? Is it not even worth playing the PC version?
cj_iwakura
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Cladun X2
Has not been discounted/promoted since... ever?
Also, this is what the PC version looks like:
Uh, how do you expect it to look? That's the game's appeal. Sprite visuals.
That said, I vastly prefer the PSP version.
It runs like crap.
Green Card
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Basileus777
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Yeah, 2D images aren't going to look much different just because they are on the PC.
Depressingly Realistic
Disgaea 5 bombed in Japan soo its not a huge suprise that they are looking for alternatives to generate money.
Actually the firefly maze section of this game begs for mouse control.
InfiniteNine
Rolling Girl
Yeah touch and analogs were awful for those sections and mouse would be perfect there.
It doesn't really matter how precise you are with Lumen and Umbra otherwise but the Lumen only sections make the crap controls shine in the worse way possible.
It's super buggy (flickering, framedrops, even crashing) and unbindable/broken controls. Not worth buying in it's current state, you'd be better of ripping the PSP version and running it on PPSSPP on your PC.
cj_iwakura
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They should have known better than to gamble on the PS4. Of course, if it had been PS3 or cross-gen, imagine the endless bitching here...
Dog Problems
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NIS president:
Whether financially viable or not, there are philosophical reasons for releasing on the platform they did. There is something to be said about moving on. Their upcoming PS4 game this year is a testament to that as well.
You can desire the companies to stagnate, and thus the market. Or you can be willing to see advancement, in an effort to bring about progress to an unfortunately declining market.
cj_iwakura
Member
I desire the company to do what keeps them in business. That dealt them a major blow.
There's that, but who's to say that the PS4 exclusivity is the reason for the game's poor sales? March 26, 2015 was a crazy day for Japanese game releases, and that obviously impacted Disgaea 5.
I think he meant that that's the resolution of the game on PC. Sure, you can get double and fullscreen, though fullscreen is just double with black all around (and full of weird flickering most likely because of the Steam Overlay).
About the game running like crap, what do you mean? Apart from being locked to 30 fps it seems to run well enough to me.
cj_iwakura
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It sure didn't help. The PS3 still has a large demographic that was totally left out. The crowd that didn't own the 4 might have bought D5 since they weren't going to be able to play Bloodborne.
I had the same issues the other poster did. Mine kept glitching and running poorly.
it's not really about testing the market. there's enough success out there that they know it's a real possibility. it's more about testing themselves and preparing for harder work. if they do something small like firefly diary and it's all fine, they know they have a good machine in place to work on bigger titles. if there are problems or feedback unrelated to the game itself (resolution, control options, etc), then that's something they can work on in future titles.
nippon ichi software made $160,000 in net income for the fiscal year. nis america made $1.1 million of that. that means other parts of the company had a net loss of $940,000. unlike when cladunx2 came out, the effort sounds more sincere, since this is where growth in the western world is for them (they specifically call out getting steam games for nis america).
i made an error. nisa made about 62.5% of the total revenue. i say this because it looks like this is being used as a source for news.
also, net income is not revenue. revenue for the year is $30.78m, with nisa bringing in $19.3m of that. net income is $0.16m, with nisa bringing in $1.1m of that.
also, net income is not revenue. revenue for the year is $30.78m, with nisa bringing in $19.3m of that. net income is $0.16m, with nisa bringing in $1.1m of that.
thekiddfran
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I am all for exclusives and I love getting Disgaea games on PS consoles but if it means NIS staying in business please port all their games to steam and mobile
alexandros
Banned
About bloody time.
BlueDogAnchorite
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I really hope more japanese companies start to releaset their jrpgs, and srpgs on steam.
NIS, that's really not what will sell.
cj_iwakura
Member
I think it could. Very Limbo-reminiscent.
GhostTrick
Banned
Yeah. This is going to have the same result as Claudun. This is not the right way to test the waters.
They gotta start small first and build up from there I guess. Considering their lack of experience with PC ports, a game like Disgaea may be a challenge to port.
PepsimanVsJoe
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Perhaps I should give htoL#NiQ: The Firefly Diary a shot. Still haven't opened the LE.
Steam isn't exactly hurting for Limbo-clones.
htoL also has rather poor word of mouth.
Steam isn't exactly hurting for Limbo-clones.
htoL also has rather poor word of mouth.
Stone Ocean
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It's a 12 year old game, what challenge would be there?
You can be 50 years old and still not know how to ride a bicycle if you've never learned how in the first place. See > Dark Souls port.
The are bringing a game with mediocre reviews and no notoriety from a mobile platform.
They choose to do this instead of bringing over a well known game from an X86 platform. You'd figure the cost and ease of porting along with better notoriety would help them realize they need to stop bullshitting.
Sorry man, this game is going the way of Claudun and NISA is going to act stupid again just like last time.
PS: The VITA uses ARM Architecture... how is that easier to port?
They choose to do this instead of bringing over a well known game from an X86 platform. You'd figure the cost and ease of porting along with better notoriety would help them realize they need to stop bullshitting.
Sorry man, this game is going the way of Claudun and NISA is going to act stupid again just like last time.
PS: The VITA uses ARM Architecture... how is that easier to port?
Stone Ocean
Member
That doesn't answer why it would be easier to port a recent game than one that was released two generations ago.
Also you start small with things people actually want and not games that are niche even within your company's fans.
I find it hilarious when some people on this board say "Steam is a place where niche Japanese games can sell." and then when a company DOES port a no-name niche game they complain.
Exactly
Look bro. They are bringing over a mediocre title that is niche even in a niche community. Mediocre Niche-ception isn't going to work on any platform. Nice try at attempting to make a point though.
Plattformers and puzzler are not niche games on steam. There is a big competition going on with way more and better title available and coming than htoL#NiQ: The Firefly Diary.
I wasn't making a point. Just pointing out silly things I see around here.
If you're talking about the genres themselves then of course it isn't niche. Strategy games aren't niche either but so many people are clamoring for a disgaea port.
It's just a conjecture of mine. Feel free to disregard it.
Well mediocre niche within niche genre titles don't do well anywhere is my point. It's not silly to call out a company making a stupid business move when they have a way better selection of games to bring over to a platform.
PepsimanVsJoe
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niche: Falcom games, Neptunia, Valkyria Chronicles
These have been proven successes on Steam. A Disgaea port would produce similar results.
Nobody has heard of ntoL. The few that have either A) already purchased it or B) avoided it due to reviews. It'll land on Steam with a thud.
Really ? Name me 5 japanese styled turnbased SRPG´s on Steam.
If they released all 5 Disgaea games in a collector's package on Steam today for 120 USD today, I would buy it. 15+15+15+25+50 sounds like a fair deal if you ask me.
lol, I remember you from the Falcom thread. Nice to see you back, complaining about PC as per usual.
Anyway you're being very disingenuous when you twist that quoted "claim" around for your purposes, so no more inciting flame arguments please.
EDIT: Oh my god, it's the same as last time. Walk into thread, make "observation", and leave. What complete nonsense.
VC, Agarest 0-2, Rime Berta
Vallen Valiant
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Well are you sure they don't mean just not coming to other consoles? Because it is not uncommon for PCs to be left out of the equation.
Please. I'm ALL FOR PC ports of JRPGS. In that thread I was simply talking about the port begging hooha and never even stated once that I don't want PC ports of JRPGS. You're the one who is misconstruing my posts as PC hate speech. 'Complaining' about port begging does not equate to me hating on PC.
You said that the "puzzler" and "platformer" genres are not niche and those are pretty broad terms and what you're asking here is far more specific.
Agarest 2 is no SRPG. They revamped the combat system into a normal jrpg one.
Chroma Squad then. Not made by Japanese though. I know you're going to bring that up.