Crash Station
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PounchEnvy said:
That would actually be pretty neat. I guess it wouldn't really make much sense though since
Margaret wasn't important at all storywise.
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No More Heroes 2: Desperate Struggle |OT| of Ultimate Vengeance (loli too)
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That would actually be pretty neat. I guess it wouldn't really make much sense though since
NMH2 has some really good character designs, just wished they fleshed out the characters more.
Overall good game, but had potential to be something greater.
One of my favorite tracks was from the Alice stage.
When I first heard it, I thought it sounded very similar to the Silent Hill series.
I'm assuming its composed by Akira Yamaoka.
Here's the track I uploaded onto youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDWD91yKoA8
Overall good game, but had potential to be something greater.
One of my favorite tracks was from the Alice stage.
When I first heard it, I thought it sounded very similar to the Silent Hill series.
I'm assuming its composed by Akira Yamaoka.
Here's the track I uploaded onto youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDWD91yKoA8
My favourite bosses from the series, in order:
Bad Girl scares the living hell out of me, and the first time she lit her bat on fire, I was like ".....well, balls." She's hard, too.
is just fun to beat the hell out of.
As for ranking the others, well, just forget it.
1. Bad Girl
2. Matt Helms
3. Alice
4. Jeane
5. Henry
T6. the rest of them
25. Million Gunman
Now granted, I still liked fighting Million Gunman, but his character had no development outside of liking money.
2. Matt Helms
3. Alice
4. Jeane
5. Henry
T6. the rest of them
25. Million Gunman
Now granted, I still liked fighting Million Gunman, but his character had no development outside of liking money.
Matt Helms
As for ranking the others, well, just forget it.
Urban Scholar
Member
G.O.O. said:
Post game completion it makes sense that they showed Alice during the announcement trailer for NMH2. T
Her fight did mean alot in context. Travis at that point came to full terms with his dislike for the game & declared it over, etc.
Of course you know that sexy accent , mmm *swoon*
Will post my boss fight favorites later on after much though on the matter.
Mayor Haggar
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I find it weird and awkward that DS is the first game i know of that has the voice actor who played the "bad-ass" prince in POP: Warrior Within, playing Travis, Robin Atkins Downes. That's fine, he's great!
But Charlie MacDonald and Jasper Batt Jr was played by Yuri Lowenthal, who played the original "charming" prince in Sands of Time, and The Two Thrones.
I remember Yuri was quite displeased with Ubisoft when they told him he wouldn't be needed for the new "direction" they were taking Warrior Within in.
But Charlie MacDonald and Jasper Batt Jr was played by Yuri Lowenthal, who played the original "charming" prince in Sands of Time, and The Two Thrones.
I remember Yuri was quite displeased with Ubisoft when they told him he wouldn't be needed for the new "direction" they were taking Warrior Within in.
Jaded Alyx
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Robin Atkins Downes was in NMH, Team Fortress 2, and plenty other stuff.Mayor Haggar said:
Yuri Lowenthal's displeasure couldn't have lasted for long as he was in The Two Thrones.
Mayor Haggar
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Jaded Alyx said:
Yeah, I just never thought they'd be cast in the same game together.
I just like to think about the seedy drama that goes on behind closed doors in the Voice Actor's Fight Club.
viewtiful_dru
Member
I also thought that Quinton Flynn as Henry was cool too.
Funny how the voice cast NMH2 is basically the entire voice cast of MGS minus Hayter :lol
Funny how the voice cast NMH2 is basically the entire voice cast of MGS minus Hayter :lol
Jaded Alyx
Member
Well even if there was bad blood, they likely never crossed paths due to the nature of voice recording.Mayor Haggar said:
Also interesting is that it's Ubisoft involved again.
SecretBonusPoint
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About to pull the trigger on import since the deafening silence on the game's Euro release doesn't fill me with much hope. Very bored of Madworld playthrough so hoping NMH2 lives up to a more interesting and engaging Wii combat game!
silverbullet1080
Banned
It was really the music, environment and atmosphere more than the character itself that was great.deadmuffin said:
Mayor Haggar
Banned
silverbullet1080 said:
Yeah, goth lolis are old hat for me too, but it was the combination of everything from that fight.
Zoramon089
Banned
MrDenny said:
YES YES YES, I was looking for the stage music everywhere!!! Thank you!
SecretBonusPoint
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Luigiv said:
You got it round the wrong way I think, the first game was rated 16 here and this new one should be rated M/18 if it's uncut? We'll see. Why was RSG being so quiet about it? Its not like they'll be doing any advertising whatsoever so you'd think theyd want to at least ride on whatever US release hype there is/was?
Host Samurai
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I beat the game last night it took me a little over 14hrs and I did all of the revenge missions and bought all of the beam swords. I think it was an amazing game and the final boss was fun and epic. I had a really good time with that fight and the shaking Wii remote saved my ass so I beat him my first try.
My one complaint in the generic cannon fodder in this one. I wish they could have made at least some weird goons to beat up like in the first game. I miss enemies like the guys with paper bags over their heads and the Darth Vader looking drones.
Also if they make a sequel, I would love to see longer levels and maybe some mini bosses that are in your way to get the the ranking bosses. I would also love to see a level that is a 8bit side scrolling beat em up or rpg complete with 8bit boss fights.
My one complaint in the generic cannon fodder in this one. I wish they could have made at least some weird goons to beat up like in the first game. I miss enemies like the guys with paper bags over their heads and the Darth Vader looking drones.
Also if they make a sequel, I would love to see longer levels and maybe some mini bosses that are in your way to get the the ranking bosses. I would also love to see a level that is a 8bit side scrolling beat em up or rpg complete with 8bit boss fights.
John Harker
Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
Mayor Haggar said:
Dude, Robin Atkins Downes is in every videogame ever.
In my opinion, he's one of the best out there right now (though lacks the recognition of Nolan North or Hayter. (Though he's in both Uncharted and MGS!)
Favourite NMH2 Tracks:
1. Alice's Boss Theme
2. Philistine - Margaret's Boss Theme
3. We Are Finally Cowboys [Golden Brown Mix]
4. It's Kill or Be Killed Mix
5. Pizza Batt Tower Stage Theme
6. Matt Helms/Ryuji's Boss Theme
Favourite NMH(2) Boss Fights:
1. Alice's Boss Theme
2. Philistine - Margaret's Boss Theme
3. We Are Finally Cowboys [Golden Brown Mix]
4. It's Kill or Be Killed Mix
5. Pizza Batt Tower Stage Theme
6. Matt Helms/Ryuji's Boss Theme
Favourite NMH(2) Boss Fights:
1.Shinobu
2. Alice
3. Henry
4. Ryuji
5. Margaret
6. Jeane
7. Mimmy
8. Holly Summers
9. Bad Girl
10. Dr. Peace
- The rest in no particular order.
2. Alice
3. Henry
4. Ryuji
5. Margaret
6. Jeane
7. Mimmy
8. Holly Summers
9. Bad Girl
10. Dr. Peace
- The rest in no particular order.
Holy shit.Mayor Haggar said:
Man, I seriously cannot believe they didn't reference it in the boss cutscene.
"TRAVIS, NOW I CAN FINALLY AVENGE MY BROTHERS, AND RECLAIM MY TITLE OF PRINCE!"
"FAT CHANCE YOU SON OF A BITCH, I'M THE PROTAGONIST OF THIS GAME"
"NOW YOU'LL SEE WHO'S REALLY THE PRINCE OF SANTA DESTROY"
okay you get the idea
Holy cow, Death match mode is freaking hard!
I can't even beat Skelter Helter especially since you really can't use the rushing sword slash (when you swing the wii remote while running) because the boss will almost always instantly knock you down.
I just started my second playthrough on mild difficulty. I admit that I'm pretty disappointed that there's no upgradable weapons and the majority of the new clothing you can buy is pretty ugly looking. On the bright side, the 2D mini games and the new map menu system really make the game more enjoyable and boosts the replay value as well.
I do kind of miss the quirky enemies from the first game like the paper bag bad guys in Destroyman's stage. However, I like how the sequel includes a slightly wider range of different enemies.
I also think the game'revenge theme story was pretty crappy. First of all, Travis hardly had any relationship with
in the first game.
was just that npc dude who works in a video store and brought over your motorcycle when you call for it on your cell phone. THAT's the entire relationship Travis had with him! Then there's the whole incredibly stupid issue with the lame final boss and his reason for wanting to kill Travis. Then to make things worse, Grasshopper Manufacture completely ignores any sense of wrapping up the story with Shinobu and Henry.
I can't even beat Skelter Helter especially since you really can't use the rushing sword slash (when you swing the wii remote while running) because the boss will almost always instantly knock you down.
I just started my second playthrough on mild difficulty. I admit that I'm pretty disappointed that there's no upgradable weapons and the majority of the new clothing you can buy is pretty ugly looking. On the bright side, the 2D mini games and the new map menu system really make the game more enjoyable and boosts the replay value as well.
I do kind of miss the quirky enemies from the first game like the paper bag bad guys in Destroyman's stage. However, I like how the sequel includes a slightly wider range of different enemies.
I also think the game'revenge theme story was pretty crappy. First of all, Travis hardly had any relationship with
Bishop
Bishop
Urban Scholar
Member
G.O.O. said:
Going off the information provided by players on gamefaqs forums' it maybe even harder.
I too was finding it rather difficult to best even Skelter Helter, I think I'll go back and fight him using the dual katana later on. I don't even want to think about the rank 5 fight on deathmatch, that will more than likely have me toss something in frustration.
VistraNorrez
Member
Hiltz said:
I posted a really effective strategy for Skelter.
Isn't it fitting that the revenge story is based off minor characters, though?
Just beat the first NMH again. And immediately started 2 over (Bitter). The battle system really is better in 2. The forward emergency evade is really a great addition. It kind of sucks not having it in the first game. Also I don't think the first game has a punch combo, which the second does (maybe some one correct me). Either way pulling a combo that ends with some punches flows a lot better. The combat just feels smoother. And also having a more distinct and useful difference between the high and low attacks is great too. Some enemies are actually more effectively beaten depending on the weapon and stance.
Also looking at my original completion time the for first game it only took me 14:30 while 2 took me a little over 16. For some reason I thought the first game took me longer.
Tried to rank all the fights but really can't so will just have to say:
Shinobu is my favorite fight in No More Heroes and Margaret is my favorite fight in Desperate Struggle. I'd rank Heavenly Star from NMH over Margaret's theme in terms of favorite soundtracks from the series.
I agree with the discussion going on right now, the revenge storyline got dropped rather quickly and was never given any focus, even when it got brought back up during the Batt Jr. fight. I didn't even notice the targets in the revenge missions were the 4 guys who shot Bishop until Dascu pointed it out after I had done them all. The story didn't quite fall apart Final Fantasy 12 style, but it came close to it.
Shinobu is my favorite fight in No More Heroes and Margaret is my favorite fight in Desperate Struggle. I'd rank Heavenly Star from NMH over Margaret's theme in terms of favorite soundtracks from the series.
I agree with the discussion going on right now, the revenge storyline got dropped rather quickly and was never given any focus, even when it got brought back up during the Batt Jr. fight. I didn't even notice the targets in the revenge missions were the 4 guys who shot Bishop until Dascu pointed it out after I had done them all. The story didn't quite fall apart Final Fantasy 12 style, but it came close to it.
VistraNorrez
Member
NMH2 is definitely a more subtle game than the first. Which is bizzare to say, because there really wasn't anything subtle about the first game. It's also a fairly straight love story, which is interesting.
I definitely think NMH2 is a better game overall, but it certainly doesn't make the first game obsolete. They are both different enough and fit together well. It's a great experience and I hope they continue the series. The UAA is something that can certainly be explored more, and there are plenty of characters to bring back.
I definitely think NMH2 is a better game overall, but it certainly doesn't make the first game obsolete. They are both different enough and fit together well. It's a great experience and I hope they continue the series. The UAA is something that can certainly be explored more, and there are plenty of characters to bring back.
Wrath2X said:
While Suda 51 said that Travis Touchdown's story would end in Desperate Struggle, he did say that he'd like to make another game (but not on the Wii but possibly on Nintendo's next console) and make it into a big franchise. Personally, I'd love to see the next game star Shinobu.
Hands down, my favorite cut scene in the sequel is with
New Destroyman
deadmuffin
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Wrath2X said:
hells yes, and it should have the final boss being sylvia, because she is only one that i would think could take on travis, especially how she speaks to him in such a powerful tone at times like her "are you done bitching?" line...that sent chills down my spine...and of course the emotional impact of the fight would make a good plot twist as he trys to take down the UAA and fights assassins that think otherwise...hey, im just spewing ideas here
darkpaladinmfc
Member
I want to see a third NMH, then Suda working on something else.
Femmeworth
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I think it would be fitting if you played as a newcomer who would go on to kill Travis, Henry, Shinobu, and Sylvia. Travis would be the final boss and it would show that there really are consequences for killing. The newcomer would definitely have to be related to someone Travis killed. The newcomer would have a completely different perspective than Travis, which could justify a more serious tone. Since he/she would be an outsider, they wouldn't understand the madness that fuels Santa Destroy.Wrath2X said:
Listening to the No More Heroes soundtrack again, I think the sequel definitely has the better soundtrack.
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