Aquamarine
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That's the best possible answer to this question.
It stands to reason that the Marvel deal won't significantly push consoles.
It's a great deal for Disney, but I don't think the point of the deal was to sell PS4s.
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NPD Sales Results for August 2014 [Up4: PS4 #1, XB1 last week sales 2x last Jul week]
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That's the best possible answer to this question.
It stands to reason that the Marvel deal won't significantly push consoles.
It's a great deal for Disney, but I don't think the point of the deal was to sell PS4s.
DangerMouse
Member
Yeah.
Unknown but it seems likely since the remaster was announced at Sony's E3 conference.
Agreed, it would be a huge get for a new bundle.
gundamkyoukai
Member
The risk taking will come from indie games which are now the low and middle tier.
I mean lets be serious the entertainments industry does not spend huge amounts of money on IP ( new or old) unless it has some sort of predictability.
IndoAssassin
Banned
Well they have that exclusive bundle, and everytime I seen a commercial it's only said playstation, so I guess they do?
eddfromtheriver
Banned
Harsh but true... oh well...
IndoAssassin
Banned
So I looked at the release dates for Microsoft's marketing push this holiday.
October 28th - Sunset Overdrive
November 4th - Advanced Warfare
November 11th - Halo MCC
November 11th - Assassin's Creed: Unity
November 18th - Dragon Age: Inquisition
Sony's looks like
November 18th - FarCry 4
November 18th - GTAV
November 18th - LBP3
I mean MS should have November done deal. They market games better than Sony does.
October 28th - Sunset Overdrive
November 4th - Advanced Warfare
November 11th - Halo MCC
November 11th - Assassin's Creed: Unity
November 18th - Dragon Age: Inquisition
Sony's looks like
November 18th - FarCry 4
November 18th - GTAV
November 18th - LBP3
I mean MS should have November done deal. They market games better than Sony does.
Are you just ignoring Drive club and LBP3 or what?
IndoAssassin
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Ok edited in LBP3, Didn't include Driveclub because that releases on October 7th.
I included Sunset Overdrive, because it's only 3 days before november, and since it's a bundled white console, it could be bought with one of the game releases in November.
Yeah man. That marketing for Madden sure helped the Xbone SKU get #1 in August...oh wait.
Devilgunman
Member
What is this "Microsoft's marketing push " for AC:Unity and DA:Inquisition? Did MS invest money on marketing those 2 games the way Sony did to Destiny? Because I haven't seen commercials or anything suggesting that's the case.
IndoAssassin
Banned
I've seen a few commercials for AC Unity here in Canada with the Xbox logo at the end. Dragon Age has the exclusive content deal doesn;t it?
Steverulez
Member
This is going to be a bloodbath.
Only way I see XB1 beating PS4 is if the PS4 is supply constrained personally and if that happens then MS might get a double win in Nov/Dec but even then, is it that likely?
Can you imagine the Black Friday deals with possible $30 PS+ subs again? Ridiculous.
Devilgunman
Member
I haven't seen any AC:Unity commercial with Xbone logo in US. Also, Xbone will get a "premier content" for DA Inquisition first but we still have no idea what it is. I wouldn't call any of those two examples marketing push at all. Comparing to how much MS invested in NFL and how that helps selling Xbone version of the game.
Hawaii Jeff
Member
...and the Mario Kart wave has ended.
Was hoping to still see it there.
Was hoping to still see it there.
manny10032
Member
*Looks at Madden*
SwiftDeath
Member
Not that it's too interesting but I think the Gameinformer August NPD article has one or two other pieces of info the venturebeat one does not
http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/...res-xbox-one-and-ps4-sales-keep-trucking.aspx
Of course the hardware quip does not matter at this point but I would've thought both articles would have basically equivalent information
I'm also not sure what this percentage is referring to exactly
Something along the lines of Disney Infinity being released in September instead of August being a real significant chunk of the overall software decline or something?
http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/...res-xbox-one-and-ps4-sales-keep-trucking.aspx
Of course the hardware quip does not matter at this point but I would've thought both articles would have basically equivalent information
I'm also not sure what this percentage is referring to exactly
Something along the lines of Disney Infinity being released in September instead of August being a real significant chunk of the overall software decline or something?
CosmicQueso
Member
This isn't about blame, don't take it personally. It's just how the math works.
Hockeymac18
Member
+1 AD quote. Cue "final countdown!" song.
Coulomb_Barrier
Member
Hopy crap at Xbone 159k.
Is the assumption that PS4's lower HW number is because White Destiny bundle sales are not included? Surely for August that would only have added 10-15k sales?
Is the assumption that PS4's lower HW number is because White Destiny bundle sales are not included? Surely for August that would only have added 10-15k sales?
eddfromtheriver
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Dang man!!!, i wanna get the Destiny bundle (because of the white PS4, don't care about Destiny @ all), but why'd you have to bring up the possibly scrumptious bundles that Sony may concoct?... gah!!!
Hmm you are confusing me.
IndoAssassin
Banned
But is Madden really as big as COD, Halo, and AC?
Oh and I found an add from Europe, which look similar to the ad I've seen for AC Unity.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4Tc_dBCVZE
Aquamarine
Member
The Destiny / White PS4 SKU has seen incredible demand anecdotally, but its launch sales will only be realised in the September 2014 NPD reporting period.
Its effect is going to be much more than 10-15K sales.
geordiemp
Member
Wow I feel old
Coulomb_Barrier
Member
Sorry not being clear: wouldn't White Destiny hardware bundle take away from PS4 npd sales in August and to what extent.
Ok, yeah, in total, it will sell a lot more than that, pulled that number from thin air.
I had no idea that there were that many potential collectors out there in regard to consoles. I'm trying to reference collectors as folks specificially for the added extras or waiting for special releases like this.
The Xbox One is tracking at the same pace or below the Wii U worldwide. Xbox One doesn't have the luxury of relying on multi-platform titles because that is one of the reasons people are purchasing PS4s instead. Microsoft needs to bank on it's first party. In that aspect, Microsoft isn't too much better off than Nintendo. But I do believe it's only a matter of time before it overtakes the Wii U. But how long it would take is still up in the air.
mercenar1e
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DangerMouse
Member
And Assassin's Creeds always did well on PS3 even despite the 360 hardware lead.
Yeah, they usually have.
Yeah, they usually have.
MrNyarlathotep
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If the Smash Bros demo thread(s) is any indication whatsoever about Smash Bros sales appeal, I dramatically underestimated its popularity and wouldn't be surprised to see a pretty big 3DS family upswing next month.
IndoAssassin
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Maybe not if it was by itself, but factoring it as a whole package in November.
Anyways, my whole point was, I would actually be surprised if XB1 doesn't win November in the US, eventhough PS4 has the mindshare so far.
Darn I just realized I'm spending $490 in one month.
GameSeeker
Member
Very well said. I wish we could sticky posts like this.
I've watched gaming evolve from Arcades, to Pong, to Atari, to Nintendo, to Sony, to Microsoft, and now mobiles. Gaming is never going to go away, but it is going to evolve. I used to laugh at my friends when they said Arcades would last forever and home consoles would never replace them. I now laugh at gamers to who say iOS and Android aren't "real" gaming platforms and consoles will be around forever.
The world continually changes. Adapt or fall behind.
I think November is going to be very interesting for both consoles as many folks are probably holding on till black-friday to get some great deals - i know i am for the PS4. It will also be a very telling month for Microsoft with many big name releases that month - particularly Halo, COD, and Sunset Overdrive (it is going to bleed into november).
Not only are people going to be looking for the xbox one to outsell the PS4, but to also outsell the 360 at the same point in its lifetime.
Not only are people going to be looking for the xbox one to outsell the PS4, but to also outsell the 360 at the same point in its lifetime.
IndoAssassin
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Well one thing has stayed consistent for 30 years. PC GAMING!!!!
Oh I see, not something we can figure out really.
Then you hit 40 and realise your Dad was right!
We'll at least if he told you Roald Dahl books were better than Twilight books anyway.
GameSeeker
Member
Yes, I've been there since Day 1. It's very nice to have a backwards compatible, always evolving platform. I expect iOS and Android to be long lived too.
ninjablade
Banned
That's not true at all. The Xbox one will probably out sell the wiiu by the end of this year. microsoft can not compete with sony at the same price point, PlayStation is just a bigger name, the ps4 is also 50% more powerful and looks much better design wise, they need to be priced at least 25% cheaper then ps4 to really compete, just like the 360 was.
Aquamarine
Member
I think it'll sell much more than 15-20K in September alone.
According to anecdotal Best Buy information (cf. Abdiel) we've seen 500 preorders for the Destiny / White PS4 bundle in one district alone, which Abdiel describes as "crazy."
Compare the 500 preorders in comparison to 200 preorders of the Xbox One Kinectless SKU, and like 2000 PS4 or 2000 Xbox One preorders back when it launched.
We also heard:
"I stopped into my local Gamestop to check on the used PS3/PS4 games, and I chatted with the guy at the register for a bit. Next Monday night, their store is anticipating over 1500 people for the Destiny midnight release. 2/3 of those are the White PS4 bundles. They are handling the midnight release for their store, and the local mall location as well, but even so. That number is insane."
Sony better forget about marketing third party games like they're first party, and see if they can remember how to market games like they're Final Fantasy VII again, because I'm not sure if even GTAV can carry LBP3 and FarCry 4 against that Avengers team Microsoft's got all lined up.
theprodigy
Member
I'm curious how PS4/XB1 will do November, maybe even the Wii U can sort of join the party and get a bit of a boost.
AgentP
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Sunset Overdrive is Hawkeye...
Do you really think they care if they lose one month?
Sunset Overdrive is honestly the only game I'd buy an Xbox One for, if I ever want to buy a system only for its exclusives again, which I might be swayed to if an Xbox One ever costs only two-thirds the price of a PS4, standard retail price, no bundles or discounts or other shenanigans.
Sony must be asking Ted Price why he couldn't make something like Sunset Overdrive when he was on the PlayStation team, the same way Mark Cuban was wondering why Steve Nash couldn't play beast mode on the Dallas Mavs. If there's one thing I can point to that Microsoft has definitely done to make things more competitive, it's giving devs a precedent to negotiate for the ownership of the IPs that they pitch. I'd like to see Sony not be stubborn and get burned by that again, and lose yet another potential Sunset Overdrive.