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NPD Sales Results for October 2007
- Thread starter sonycowboy
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Roxas said:man what else can Sony do? They drop the price, the games start rolling out, and they are still getting fucked
1. The price isn't low enough. 2. The games aren't "rolling out". When I have a 360 and the only exclusives that I see in the immediate future that are worth my while are Ratchet and Uncharted with MGS4 being a looooong way off, I don't really care about all those multi-platform titles. I have a 360. I'll just play Rock Band, Assassins Creed, etc. on my 360.
That 1 year jump really, really worked for M$. It gave them time to gather a hardcore install base that wanted a next-gen console immediately, and when you have a larger install base who are now seeing comparable graphics on a system they already own, there's almost no need to buy a PS3. Especially when they're still as expensive as they are. I'm not going to throw down 400 bucks for a PS3 w/o backwards compatibility either, especially when there aren't many games I want on it. Because honestly, with the 360's lineup right now does anyone really NEED to play any of the PS3 exclusive titles? I've already got my hands more than full with Halo 3, COD4, Madden, Orange Box, VF5 Online... and soon I'm going to have Rock Band and Mass Effect. The list goes on. Sony needs more AAA exclusives. Period.
mysticstylez said:
I believe it. With the ridiculous numbers the Wii is posting, developers are moving resources to the Wii. Give it some time, and we're going to see some good titles on the machine. The installed base is going to be way too hard to ignore. See- Guitar Hero 3 Wii.
mysticstylez
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TheKurgan said:
How is it a sad time for Playstation Gamers they are getting some awesome games, it's more like sad times for Sony.
The Innocent X
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Roxas said:man what else can Sony do? They drop the price, the games start rolling out, and they are still getting fucked
Come up with a new strategy, kill this cycle early and hit back hard.
mr stroke
Member
Roxas said:man what else can Sony do? They drop the price, the games start rolling out, and they are still getting fucked
I wouldn't call WarHawk,Ratchet or Drakes system sellers, I don't think anyone bought a ps2 for Ratchet, and even if its out of Sony's control they slit there own wrists by not pushing for GT5 and MGS this holiday..other than BR I sitll couldn't imagine someone buying a PS3 over a 360 this holiday being its 50$ less with almost the same games
AdmiralViscen
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mysticstylez said:
Don't PlayStation gamers already have 360?
Arsenal said:
Not only is most likely shipped but it also includes the PS2.
"The price cut and new model helped Sony increase sales of all consoles including the older PlayStation 2 to 100,000 units in the week ended Nov. 11, spokeswoman Kimberly Otzman said in an e-mail. "
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...d=amjWQwK2k3Bs
Roxas said:man what else can Sony do? They drop the price, the games start rolling out, and they are still getting fucked
Drop the price again in time for the release of the MGS 4 model...
Red PS3 (40 GB model)
MGS 4 bundled
MGS 4 Online fully installed on HDD
Release Killzone demo around the time
$299
We'll see how US Galaxy sales go. If Japanese sales are any indication, the people pushing the Wii into the lead are only interested in Wii Sports. Core game devs are probably pretty happy with the great software sales on the 360. Publishers will want Wii games sure, but will they finance core games or casual oriented games?Spike said:
The Innocent X
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Kuroyume said:
You can`t keep dropping the price. They already did once ahead of schedule. Eventually you just end up guaranteeing a loss over the whole generation
typhonsentra
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Because saying we shipped more units in the week a new SKU is getting released wouldn't make any sense?Arsenal said:
AdmiralViscen
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Fredescu said:
I agree with you as far as third parties, but there's no way Mario Galaxy won't do well here.
Wii third party chanters need to just come to grips with the fact that their console will be exactly what Nintendo said it would be: A great second console.
Go get PS3 or 360, people.
360
AceBandage
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Fredescu said:
Kaplan says Galaxy sales are "crazy good" here in the US.
mysticstylez
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mr stroke said:
Shit they might as well just go out of business if they do that.
AdmiralViscen
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RumFore said:
First post, 79k or so.
edit: 90k, whatever. Go read it.
The Innocent X
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Its in the first post!RumFore said:
Eteric Rice
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The Innocent X said:
I will.
I'll wait till the next NPD to determine how much Sony has sold..all I know is that the 60GB models are flying off the shelf and almost non-existant in certain parts of the US...I want Sony though to concentrate on more in-house games and Exclusives than 3rd party games, cuz it seems that most developers rather develop for MS first and Sony 2nd or last, depending on time and budget, and most gamers are probably going to buy a game for the 360, than PS3 first, no matter..I got next-gen consoles covered, so I won't miss out on anything, but I'd rather see more original IP's from Sony.
Jive Turkey
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I think I would have bailed out of that back in March.P90 said:
AdmiralViscen
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Fredescu said:
No it didn't.
Prime 3 just did half a million here, Mario Galaxy will have no problem performing on this side of the Pacific.
titiklabingapat
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NA is 3d Mario's strongest territory, Japan was(or is) its weakest.Fredescu said:
You also got to remember, NA Wii userbase is far more diverse. TP also did better here compared to Japan, and both Red Steel and RRR both did well.
PhoenixDark
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NolbertoS said:
Sounds like the Gamecube approach to me, and we all know how that went. If anything third party developers are even MORE likely to continue releasing multi console titles, and they've gotta be reconsidering releasing exclusive titles for the PS3 right now. Square, Konami, and many other developers have to be shitting bricks right now.
But if Sony's math is fair and accurate, next month will be the big coming out party.
P90 said:
Well, I'm sure that's there last resort, but Sony can't always rely on 3rd party exclusives forever, they have to come up with more original IP's if they want to keep on going for next-next-next gen...God of War for example was a great franchise and I see it as an exclusive that alot of people would line up, or camp out and buy on Day 1...I think Sony should try to put more R & D into more IP's to branch out and keep people in line, while expecting some awesome game to come out.
AdmiralViscen
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PhoenixDark said:
PS3 sales would have to more than quadruple to beat 360's second November. At the same price point.
And a lot of people said that 360 did shitty last November, and that Gears was failing to push consoles.
MassiveAttack
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So let's see here...
$399 40GB didn't officially release until Nov. 2nd
Ratchet & Clank wasn't widely available at retail until the last week of October
... But October NPD is being used to declare game over for Sony.
Fantastic.
$399 40GB didn't officially release until Nov. 2nd
Ratchet & Clank wasn't widely available at retail until the last week of October
... But October NPD is being used to declare game over for Sony.
Fantastic.
The Innocent X
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AdmiralViscen said:
Its got to the stage where if PS3 matched 360 for a month it would be a celebration
AdmiralViscen
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MassiveAttack said:
Well, I suppose that's one way to look at it.
-80GB got a price cut halfway through the month, and appears to be selling better than the 40GB version
-Sonycowboy said the 40GB version hit with a thud
-Sony's claims about PS3's sales in that last week of October have been shown to be false, casting November into doubt
-Uh, Ratchet was on sale in October, I bought it. It's a bomb dude, and no one should have expected otherwise. Its demographic doesn't have consoles at this price.
PhoenixDark
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JudgeN said:
I doubt that, and wouldn't be surprised if both companies are seriously considering multiconsole strategies for their biggest titles.
AdmiralViscen said:
Oh I don't expect the PS3 to outsell either the 360 or Wii in November or December, but I would imagine the console will still have a big increase due to the pricecut. But will software sales increase? The PSP is doing well in terms of hardware, but no one is buying games. I'd imagine the PS3 is going to slowly move to that type of position in the coming months.
AdmiralViscen
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PhoenixDark said:
I'm talking about coming close to matching 360's 511k from November 2006. Most of the people here who didn't already have a 360 were putting it down for being so "low," and now Sony has little to no chance of meeting that low bar.
I dunno what to say about software, I think anything can happen. I think BenjaminBirdie is kind of right in what he's saying about that. And the focus on Blu Ray must be hurting it too. I didn't buy PS3 with the intent to buy tons of games for it, personally.