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NPD September 2011 Sales Results [Update 3: FIFA 12, Madden 12, Dead Island]
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Gravijah said:
that game hasn't been selling at all. when i went back to my store to check the stock, the manager yelled at me and called the cops because i haven't worked there in three years and also because it was a different manager who didn't know me.
so yeah, not good news for uncharted 3.
UC is newer series than GoW, so obviously it wont be as front loaded.... Both are epic. And at the end, all we should hope is for all of them to sell good enough for Sony to fund next one 
. Rest of it is just having fun in sales thread.
R3 I think suffered from Insomniac announcement of going multiplatform. Like it or not.
. Rest of it is just having fun in sales thread.R3 I think suffered from Insomniac announcement of going multiplatform. Like it or not.
NullPointer
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So happy to see Space Marine make the charts. It more than deserves it.
spwolf said:UC is newer series than GoW, so obviously it wont be as front loaded.... Both are epic. And at the end, all we should hope is for all of them to sell good enough for Sony to fund next one
R3 I think suffered from Insomniac announcement of going multiplatform. Like it or not.
Seriously? 0.01% of the gamers on the planet knew and/or cared about that. The gaming public generally considering R2 a turd is why 3 did so bad.
Opus Angelorum
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Exactly. It damaged the franchise badly.Kusagari said:
spwolf said:UC is newer series than GoW, so obviously it wont be as front loaded.... Both are epic. And at the end, all we should hope is for all of them to sell good enough for Sony to fund next one
R3 I think suffered from Insomniac announcement of going multiplatform. Like it or not.
No. Resistance never had a big, loyal following--its support was soft. R2 did some serious damage to the series which made it easy for people to give up on it. If Resistance went to Uncharted route (good, but not great game followed by a fantastic sequel), then R3 would have performed much, much better.
A franchise with a strong, loyal fanbase can recover from a bad sequel (see MGS->MGS2). But a franchise with soft support getting a bad sequel is a death kneel to the franchise.
Yoboman
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shintoki said:
UC2 is just short of five million now, the GOW numbers I can find place them around 2.5 - 3 million. As for everything else; Completely false. God of War really took off when it went platinum before then it was a real slow burn. It was also the case with GOW2 which recieved a similar bump. GoW was marketed well, it also had the benefit of a far bigger userbase.
While true that UC has never debuted as high, UC2's worldwide LTD far exceeding any GOW game indicates that may not be the case for their lifetime sales. I believe the increased popularity of the franchise due to UC2 may mean we'll see a significant boost over UC2's 500k debut monthAniHawk said:
StoppedInTracks
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Resistance 3 bombing with 180k units means Human Revolution did better than 180k on its second month!
Yes!
Yes!
Roland Deschain
Member
So strange that MS isn't bragging about how Gears sold x amount of copies in a single week.
Phonomezer
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Yoboman said:
It came in first on the individual charts.
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
So how much did no.1 and no.2 sell?Yoboman said:
Yoboman said:
The position is a meaningless indicator of numbers of copies sold. Gears sold more than 2 million in the US, which just means that Madden sold more (combined).
And if you think it is hard to believe Madden sold more than 2m, then where have you been the last few years?
Resistance 3 bombing is no reflection on the game itself. It really was good, and the dev should be proud.
That said, it was stone cold idiocy to essentially put it up against Gears. R3 could have knocked it out of the park in the spring/summer.
Was there some dickery involved on Sony's part to do this to "thank" Insomniac for going multiplatform? Probably not, but it certainly didn't do anybody any favors to launch when they did. As good as R3 was, Gears 3 was leaps and bounds better, and everybody knew this well in advance of September.
That said, it was stone cold idiocy to essentially put it up against Gears. R3 could have knocked it out of the park in the spring/summer.
Was there some dickery involved on Sony's part to do this to "thank" Insomniac for going multiplatform? Probably not, but it certainly didn't do anybody any favors to launch when they did. As good as R3 was, Gears 3 was leaps and bounds better, and everybody knew this well in advance of September.
corporate cheerleader
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Still no idea what the best selling PS3 game of the month was?
Opus Angelorum
Member
The Sony PR is getting shorter and shorter, hardly a good sign.
Auto_aim1
MeisaMcCaffrey
Gears and Resistance are exclusives, so people who only own a 360 or PS3 have access to only one game. Resistance doesn't have a good fanbase either so it needed a solid marketing push by Sony; sort of like what MS did with Homefront. But we know Sony was always going to push Uncharted 3 first, so these sales are expected.Cheech said:
StoppedInTracks
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Was there any hype behind Resi 3 at all? I remember KZ3 having loads of hype with various snow/ jetpack/ eye gouging gifs being posted in many different threads here while Resistance... nothing even though an Insomniac guy posts here.
Game was simply sent to die no matter on which platform. It was Sony's 2011 Haze.
Game was simply sent to die no matter on which platform. It was Sony's 2011 Haze.
Unfortunately SCEA didn't give a shit about Resistance 3. The fact that they launched an Uncharted 3 TV ad campaign on the same day that it was released says it all.
The game is fantastic and will do fine in the long run. I hope Insomniac finds a better partner in EA (as in, the EA that is launching Mass Effect and Battlefield, not the one that launched Alice or Shadows of the Damned).
The game is fantastic and will do fine in the long run. I hope Insomniac finds a better partner in EA (as in, the EA that is launching Mass Effect and Battlefield, not the one that launched Alice or Shadows of the Damned).
corporate cheerleader
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Road said:
Just wondering, that's all. :\
OldJadedGamer
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fernoca said:
It's easy to sell big numbers back then. GOW didn't have any competition and that's why the numbers were so big. Look just a month eariler and you'll see Rainbow Six 2 pulling almost the same numbers and Army of Two pulling bigger numbers than Uncharted 2 did in it's first month and that is just on only the 360 (remember userbase numbers 4 1/2 years ago). It's all about competition and how games compete with other games is how they are going to sell.
WII: SUPER SMASH BROS: BRAWL: 2.7m
360: RAINBOW SIX: VEGAS 2: 752.3K
360: ARMY OF TWO: 606.1K
WII: WII PLAY: 409.8K
PSP: GOD OF WAR: CHAINS OF OLYMPUS: 340.5K
PSP: CRISIS CORE: FINAL FANTASY VII: 301.6K
WII: GUITAR HERO III: 264.1K
360: MAJOR LEAGUE BASEBALL 2K8: 237.1K
360: *CALL OF DUTY 4: 237K
PS3: ARMY OF TWO: 224.9K
GarthVaderUK
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Roland Deschain said:
Yoboman said:
Quotes and sources for you guys:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=31791887#post31791887
http://twitter.com/#!/aarongreenberg/status/124598510866792448
I see games that have been overlooked like the Sims Pets and Disney universe selling very well as they are both across 4 formats.
Well whatever happens, next NPD will be a bloodbath. I can see a lot of good games on this list. But how many people can seriously say they have the time or money to get more than 4 of these games.
Well whatever happens, next NPD will be a bloodbath. I can see a lot of good games on this list. But how many people can seriously say they have the time or money to get more than 4 of these games.
Great numbers for Gears but to be expected. Now rest the franchise till Xbox720 appears and then announce a game based around that Samaritan tech demo.
Really? Thats good news. Had a good laugh playing the second one in co-op. Some interesting ideas so it will be interesting to see how they reboot it.
Nirolak said:
Really? Thats good news. Had a good laugh playing the second one in co-op. Some interesting ideas so it will be interesting to see how they reboot it.
We know a little bit from resumes and job postings, assuming it still holds accurate:Raide said:
-Four player co-op
-Frostbite 2
-Completely new senior staff
-Split between Visceral Montreal and Visceral Los Angeles
-Given the lack of an announcement, over two years of development cycle
At the minimum, it should certainly be different.
Tying this back to sales, it should also be interesting to see how it sells in a year with no competition from Gears or Uncharted and being notably far away from Max Payne and Mass Effect.
Sho_Nuff82
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Ha.Draft said:
Killzone and Resistance are an interesting slice of Sony's marketing machine; they are two of only a handful of shooters that try to wrap the franchise around iconic antagonists instead of iconic protagonists.
It's simple association:
Gears = Marcus and Dom
CoD = 'merica
Halo = Spartan/Master Chief
Metal Gear = Snake
Splinter Cell = Fisher
Mass Effect = Shepherd
Uncharted = Drake (his name is in the title!)
Killzone = Helghast
Resistance = Chimera
Bioshock = Big Daddies
Bioshock got away with it, but Bioshock is also one of the more bizarre shooters on the market.
Insomniac's new IP seems to be far more character (and co-op) driven, it should help it stand out more as long as it remains a solid game like their previous efforts.
Adam Blade
WWKC
Averon said:
Knell
Sho_Nuff82
Member
The Reach commercials consisted of little more than Spartans running through a war-torn battlefield.Gravijah said:
Sony's new live/play commercial has an easily recognizable Solid Snake (and Kratos) sitting at the bar.
Which is not to say those games don't have iconic villains, but people will follow the franchises toward whatever adventures the hero gets into. Can the average GAFer tell you who the lead character is in KZ or Resistance?
There are fan clubs for fem-Sheperd's voice actress.
Drake has a commercial currently airing where he winks at the camera while holding a Subway cup.
Iconic characters are a huge part of brand awareness.
What's most interesting about Resistance and Killzone is that the antagonist is not really an iconic character either, but primarily a design.Sho_Nuff82 said:
BioShock on the other hand had Andrew Ryan.
Had BioShock 2 been a prequel focusing on him, I think people would have been more interested.
With BioShock Infinite though they switched the focus back to the protagonists.
Nope. Has nothing to do with that.spwolf said:UC is newer series than GoW, so obviously it wont be as front loaded.... Both are epic. And at the end, all we should hope is for all of them to sell good enough for Sony to fund next one
R3 I think suffered from Insomniac announcement of going multiplatform. Like it or not.
It's from a collection of marketing, IP not being that well received and ps3 owners lack of buying software that's not COD,Madden etc.
GOW3 is still the best selling ps3 title to date and that's kinda sad. It seems older IPs do better on PS3. Hell even on PSN, older classic games sell more than new PSN releases such as those going on "only on PSN" even when priced at $10. That's a sad thing to witness.
Infamous Chris
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jstevenson said:
Well, it was nice knowing ya.
StoppedInTracks
Member
So Gears 3 sold more than 11x what R3 did? The math is so cruel it hurts.
JoshuaJSlone
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As a non-Halo player I know diddly about Halo's bad guys, but there's no way I could avoid Master Chief over the last decade; splashed across covers, commercials, and sodas.Gravijah said:
italianfreak240
Member
It feels like PS3 owner just don't even know these great games are coming out. I still need to buy Infamous 2 and Resistance 3 but just have so much to catch up on. A year without a ton of great games coming out would be great for me.
Well, Gears also enjoyed a marketing budget that was probably 11x larger as well (clearly hyperbole, but you get the point), in addition to having massive dude bro appeal and a bigger following. I'd wager the Gears franchise marketing budget alone would be enough to fund 3 or 4 more games at Insomniac. While sales are important, there is also a lot to be said about budget.StoppedInTracks said:
Jaded Alyx
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Army of Four?Nirolak said: