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NYT: Legal Marijuana Sales Hit $5.4 Billion in 2015
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water_wendi
Water is not wet!
Cigarettes.
Nexus Zero
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I've got my fingers crossed for the rise of Big Weed - corporate pressure is the only way we're ever going to see legal weed in the UK
Have you seen the dumbasses running this place? shit wont get done here for another 2 decades, we still don't even have gay marriage.
Nice to see PA making some moves. I did some research and it seems like they are doing a vote in the next couple of weeks. There is some weird stuff in there like you can't smoke it and vaporization is only allowed if you can't really ingest it any other way.
Chances are it's going to be some bill were it's almost impossible to get a card and you'll likely die of your cancer before you're approved. Guess we will see though.
Chances are it's going to be some bill were it's almost impossible to get a card and you'll likely die of your cancer before you're approved. Guess we will see though.
umop_3pisdn
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Lettuce is really easy to grow, too. Convenience reigns.
FantasticMrFoxdie
Mumber
keyword: "Legal"
I imagine it would be like 10x more otherwise. lol
I imagine it would be like 10x more otherwise. lol
It's going to happen. Limited supply this year, but it will happen. Last copy of the Anchorage Press had like 20+ "Business Applications" for weed related companies.
andthebeatgoeson
Junior Member
I hope this sea change involves the American government acknowledging the terrible police practice of locking up brown people for marijuana, targeted enforcement and other things.
Seeing the revenue is upsetting in the sense that many people have suffered based on the whims of the public. Now we see the public change their minds and we promote that change because of money. Great, you may see billions of dollars and see opportunity ahead. I see opportunity lost.
Seeing the revenue is upsetting in the sense that many people have suffered based on the whims of the public. Now we see the public change their minds and we promote that change because of money. Great, you may see billions of dollars and see opportunity ahead. I see opportunity lost.
uncredited male
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As more and more states legalize I wonder where all that War on Drugs money is going to end up.
Eighty Deuce
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I'm already down here eating shrimp and bath salts wearing a gator skin man thong
DontBeThatGuy
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It's disgraceful it's still only legal in a handful of states, and even more disgraceful it was even illegal in the first place. I've read the history of when it started to become demonized and it's not pretty.
univariate
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Lol
Vigilant Walrus
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Legalize everywhere- Rake in serious dough. Government controlled, taxed. That massive pool of money could help pay for the re-vitalization of the infrastructure. Tens of thousands of bridges, dams and highways needs to be fixed, rebuild or improved.
At the same time, America is behind on equipping their big cities for bicycles, and many cities don't have good public transportation system.
This is important because the rise of people demands it, and traffic jams cost America billions in profits. A more mobile workforce, also reduces pollution.
I think there is an opportunity here to give illegal a path to citizenship by asking them to work on these jobs, while learning their trade professionally. There are a lot of jobs in America that requires people in trades that are not taught much anymore.
It could be a productive way to integrate many illegals, and reduce unemployment among American citizens.
At the same time, America is behind on equipping their big cities for bicycles, and many cities don't have good public transportation system.
This is important because the rise of people demands it, and traffic jams cost America billions in profits. A more mobile workforce, also reduces pollution.
I think there is an opportunity here to give illegal a path to citizenship by asking them to work on these jobs, while learning their trade professionally. There are a lot of jobs in America that requires people in trades that are not taught much anymore.
It could be a productive way to integrate many illegals, and reduce unemployment among American citizens.
sunshine and gasoline
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Going to take some time but with that much money involved sooner or later it will be legal everywhere which is great.
infinitys_7th
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$4.6 billion not going to the drug cartels.
Why is marijuana not already legalized? The cartels would be hobbled faster than James Caan in Misery and the Mexican people could start getting their country back. Seems like a win-win.
Why is marijuana not already legalized? The cartels would be hobbled faster than James Caan in Misery and the Mexican people could start getting their country back. Seems like a win-win.
Except a lot of people just plain want them out, not integrated. I'm all for path to citizenship, and even just plain amnesty for those involved, but people don't give a shit about helping their fellow man
I don't have to tell you that undocumented immigrants aren't all subsistence farmers, or willing to work as farmers, right?
Admiral Woofington
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edit: whoops didn't realize this was an old thread I had made the exact same post in lol
We'll have to see but the job may demand proof of medical necessity, or maybe they could say they won't allow you to test positive for it. They're at will employment anyways, nothing stops them from firing you for testing positive.
We'll have to see but the job may demand proof of medical necessity, or maybe they could say they won't allow you to test positive for it. They're at will employment anyways, nothing stops them from firing you for testing positive.
Vigilant Walrus
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The myth is powerful. Like the anti-GMO, Anti-Vaccine, Anti-Global Warming, Anti-Immigration, beliefs die hard.
Is there legitimate concerns about legalizing weed? I think so. I think there are millions of idiots who could mix it irresponsible with alcohol (particularly young people desiring to get fucked up) or people getting themselves or others hurt by thinking it's okay to drive and do dangerous shit while high.
I think these are the same people who would do other dangerous stuff, but there might be an argument that we need to prepare the masses. Maybe, a weed license should be a thing- One where you need to go to your doctor, or some sort of introductionary weed-information meeting and be told.
I'd also be in favor of people having to be test weed before they are deemed to be safe. My ex girlfriend was scared of weed because her aunt had become a schizophrenic from it. It seems to be incredible rare, like people with nut allergies, but never the less, we're talking about getting stimuli through psychedelics, and being how irresponsible some people can be, I think it could be a good idea.
Of course it's a pain in the ass. more bureaucracy, but maybe there could be good things in it too! Maybe a weed ID could be an ID that allows you vote- bypassing voter ID laws. That would be an interesting alternative to only having your drivers license as authentic identification.
What is also important to talk about, is prisons. More than 2 million people are in prison. Around 25% of those are in for non-violent drug offenses. Having a person in jail costs society a lot of money and resources. So if you could get 500,000 people to have their cases re-appealed, and sentences reduced, as well as giving them a means to get back on their feet- For example, not having it show up that they have went to prison for pot use.
I know many people will still get caught due to racism, and fake charges being applied, but it could help a significant amount of people, save billions.
Plus, it would be a good boost to get prison privatization closed, which is the fucking devil. Fortunately both Hillary and Bernie are for closing private prisons. It's very important that this gets done.
More than 6,8 million Americans are supposedly struggling with some sort of drug addiction or dependency (includes alcohol, pharma drugs and so on) and so, I think not just America, but everyone could learn something from Portugals decriminalization. From what I have heard it sounds like a good system, but I have not read too much about it.
The idea, that instead of sending someone to jail for having taken heroin or hard drugs, they are put before a judge, have to do community service and get clean.
Northern Mexico would change overnight. They would become agriculture barons instead of drug lords.
(they would have to follow laws and it would be a little harder to kill people)
probably 20X that 10 is spent on enforcement and border control.
Vigilant Walrus
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Sure- But those that want. Ain't it worth giving them a chance, and in return, let them work to rebuild America?
IMO, there is a fundamental problem with how countries exercise GPD and GNP. Growth and how rich your country is, should not only reflect how much you build and expand (China) but also the quality of your infrastructure.
I think it's important to think of having high quality roads, bridges and dams as a sign of wealth, stability and prosperity.
I just don't think the alternative of trying to hunt them all down is a battle they can win. It will be one of those like the war on drugs that ends in a lot of racial profiling. But I think the idea that illegals who really want to try, work and assist America should get a shot.
I think there should be a lot more to it than just working on highways, and then you're in.
They have to learn the language, learn a trade so they have a job and everything. And some people won't do it, and they have to live as illegals, and that's too bad. The main thing is that we try to give some good people a shot. We struggle with this in Europe too. Some governments don't want refugees to learn anything, to integrate or work. They just want to well them down, and make them miserable so they will leave, but I think that when you're running from genocide, be it in Syria or Honduras, you're willing to accept awful conditions if it's better than where you came from. A change of tactic is needed I think!
CharminUltra
Member
C'mon, California. Time to take the HIGH ground.
Because democrats are scared to push on it.
Only Presdeintial candidate who favors legalizing it is Bernie.
Thewonandonly
Junior Member
So I'm a huge stoner and I want to know what are the negatives to this.
The only one I can thing of is their is now way to tell if you have it in your system for when you get pulled over. The only way of testing is piss and that stays positive for like 2 months after smoking. Their is no breatlixwr for weed and that's the only negative I can think of.
The only one I can thing of is their is now way to tell if you have it in your system for when you get pulled over. The only way of testing is piss and that stays positive for like 2 months after smoking. Their is no breatlixwr for weed and that's the only negative I can think of.
Alcoremortis
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This is a pretty easy test. The only people who "become" schizophrenics from weed are the people who were already inclined to do so (usually due to genetic predisposition), weed just acts as the psychotic break trigger. It almost always happens in the teens and early twenties, so just put a legal age restriction of 21 like with alcohol to reduce the risk.
Skellig Gra
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You must be high right now. If weed is fully legal they aren't going to test you for it. The downside is your weed costs more than it used to but that is a minor concern when quality can be tightly controlled.
The medical marijuana bill in Florida came close back in 2014. Think it might be on the ballot again so If enough old farts died/die between then and November 2016 it might pass. I think it's only for terminally Ill people but it would be a good step forward in this Looney Tunes State. you can't just win with a majority, you have to get a SUPER MAJORITY.
Not a Jellyfish
but I am a sheep
Please please pass this November in MA.
SaganIsGOAT
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*smokes some Tahoe OG in celebration
More than likely no vote this November in Maine:
http://www.usnews.com/news/articles...ing-derails-maine-pot-legalization-initiative
Pretty fucking ridiculous.
http://www.usnews.com/news/articles...ing-derails-maine-pot-legalization-initiative
Pretty fucking ridiculous.
Host Samurai
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Bring it on. I'm in the business too.
You're operating on the flawed assumption that illegal immigrants haven't been continuously busting their asses over here, especially those who've lived here for years on years. What more do they have to prove to you beyond their existence in the US under poor wages, countless barriers to advancement such as an inability to get a license or seek true legal employment, and discrimination? Everyone seems to want undocumented immigrants to 'prove' or 'work' off their 'crime' in order to justify some form of amnesty as if sustaining themselves in the US isn't already incredibly difficult for them as-is.
Do you want them to pay for everything you can justify under their 'criminal' behavior? Do you want them to bleed for you what you're unwilling to pay for yourself because exploitable labor, yay? What if they've worked so hard for so long as laborers that they've simply never had the time to pick up English fluently, and oh, too bad so sad, you'll never get your shot now? What if they've lived here for a decade doing odd jobs, but they don't have a career therefore, get out?
Every time I see someone try to justify immigrants 'paying back their debt to society' in order to receive legality usually involves some degree of exploitation beyond what they already face. And then they throw on requirements for having a trade. When are they supposed to have been educated, with what money, in what time. Or picking up English fluently, when they spend so much time working that they basically do nothing but work and sleep in some cases. Nevermind how long you've lived here, how hard you've worked, how clean your record is, or how much you've contributed in taxes to services such as Social Security that they'll never get to get their due from. It's fucking mad, especially every time I see it here on GAF.
perfectchaos007
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5.4 billion in just 4 states. Just imagine if it were sold in all 50 states. $67.5 Billion dollar industry
MidgarBlowedUp
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It just won't be American until they make pot burgers.
HomerSimpson-Man
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Hype Train Haze
QuantumZebra
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StickSoldier
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Already legalize this shit, what the fuck. This world will be better once marijuana is actually legal man. So many lives will be saved because of this plant.
Edit: Excuse me, while I smoke my bowl.
Edit: Excuse me, while I smoke my bowl.
This, I feel this is more important than anything. Flood the fucking market, kill at least one of their heads. Also set up harm reduction for hard drugs, and help people instead of imprisoning them... who am I kidding, where there's money to be made
Let's do this, California
Though 15% sales tax sounds a bit too much.
But, this is California afterall... it will sell. Price be damned, it will sell.
Though 15% sales tax sounds a bit too much.
But, this is California afterall... it will sell. Price be damned, it will sell.
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