Black Republican
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and Trump's having a cnn townhall in 8 hours, gonna be fun!
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NYTimes: Pope Francis Suggests Donald Trump Is "Not Christian"
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EatinOlives
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catapult37
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As far as responses to "who are you to question my faith?" go, I'd say "the pope" is a pretty legit answer...
You Are Viewtiful
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It wasn't even that long ago when Catholics were not considered Christian according to mainstream American opinion. Electing the first Catholic president in 1960 was a huge milestone.
gutter_trash
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neither are Evangelicals
Principate
Saint Titanfall
This honestly has nothing to do with Trump's genius, I figure he'd rather not have the leader of the catholic church publically against him, considering catholic presidents are actually thought of pretty highly in America looking at the stats.
RPGCrazied
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I doubt he is either. The way he speaks and represents himself, I wouldn't be surprised if he was religious at all. Lets not forget he said this is a different persona he is using than the one he would have as President.
He is doing and saying "anything" to get votes. Even if its pretending to be religious.
He is doing and saying "anything" to get votes. Even if its pretending to be religious.
Spine_Ripper
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Well he IS Catholic
gutter_trash
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Trump should tread carefully because lots of Blue Collar Catholics are ripe for the taking
if he pisses them off, it is a lost demographic
if he pisses them off, it is a lost demographic
can't wait for him to get people to boo the Pope lol
Red Blaster
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you know its sad whats going on with the papacy now. when john paul ii ran things they were very smooth, it was a very classy church.
exmachina64
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If Trump converts to Judaism to win the GE, he can have the presidency.
His response to every attack and insult would be "anti-semitism!"
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Dude almost never quotes the bible the book he loves so much, even in this context. If there was a textbook example of a man lying to be a Christian to get votes Trump would be that person.
VendettaRed07
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Please excommunicate him
Pls. Pope, pls.
Pls. Pope, pls.
John Dunbar
correct about everything
to sane people, the pope saying someone is not a christian should be a compliment.
Randolph Freelander
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Today in Trump: "No leader, especially a religious leader, should have the right to question another man's religion or faith."
Last week in Trump: "How can Ted Cruz be an Evangelical Christian when he lies so much and is so dishonest?"
(Condensed from tweet by @sinderbrand)
Last week in Trump: "How can Ted Cruz be an Evangelical Christian when he lies so much and is so dishonest?"
(Condensed from tweet by @sinderbrand)
Heavy's Sandvich
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no true scotsman
Trump ain't a leader!
But he will stop all that...once he is...a leader?
yeah!
To be fair, looking at the full history of popes gives them a pretty thin leg to stand on. Of course the idea of building a wall is ridiculous, but so is the institution of popehood.
Mr. Poolman
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THIS VICIOUS CLAP BACK LAWD
DONALD J. TRUMP RESPONSE TO THE POPE
If and when the Vatican is attacked by ISIS, which as everyone knows is ISISs ultimate trophy, I can promise you that the Pope would have only wished and prayed that Donald Trump would have been President because this would not have happened. ISIS would have been eradicated unlike what is happening now with our all talk, no action politicians.
The Mexican government and its leadership has made many disparaging remarks about me to the Pope, because they want to continue to rip off the United States, both on trade and at the border, and they understand I am totally wise to them. The Pope only heard one side of the story - he didnt see the crime, the drug trafficking and the negative economic impact the current policies have on the United States. He doesnt see how Mexican leadership is outsmarting President Obama and our leadership in every aspect of negotiation.
For a religious leader to question a persons faith is disgraceful. I am proud to be a Christian and as President I will not allow Christianity to be consistently attacked and weakened, unlike what is happening now, with our current President. No leader, especially a religious leader, should have the right to question another mans religion or faith. They are using the Pope as a pawn and they should be ashamed of themselves for doing so, especially when so many lives are involved and when illegal immigration is so rampant.https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-releases/donald-j.-trump-response-to-the-pope
This can't be real...
I have no words.
Watch out Trump - Francis spits holy fire
lol
TheOctodad
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This is such an abused and overly simplistic argument. There are some pretty clear standards of Christianity (which actually means "Little Christ") articulated in the gospels. Or we can just be reductionistic and ignore that.
There is a wall to go in but it's open, so everyone goes in and out freely.
Principate
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This is obviously a pretty limited fallacy which, doesn't require much thought to be incorrect and isn't even really applicable. If Trump is lying and doesn't actually which is the contention, then his lying, it's set by some arbitary set by someone else but by he himself.
Operations
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THIS VICIOUS CLAP BACK LAWD
They are using the Pope as a pawn and they should be ashamed of themselves for doing so, especially when so many lives are involved and when illegal immigration is so rampant.https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-releases/donald-j.-trump-response-to-the-pope
Who is using the Pope as a pawn? Mexico?
The Albatross
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Trump is not Catholic.
This is non-sequitur and while you're being pedantic, you're also wrong -- the Vatican is open to refugees and the Pope has encouraged every church in Europe to open its doors to refugees seeking asylum. Further, the Catholic Church is the most powerful immigrant advocacy group on Earth.
Also, Vatican City is about 100 acres large, or about 1/6 square mile.
OuterLimits
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Trump would like to thank the Pope for helping him gain more votes in the primaries especially in southern states.
MrOogieBoogie
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This is HILARIOUS.
Donald Trump and the Pope in a heated debate over what it means to be Christian.
You can't write this stuff. The world is hilarious. People are hilarious.
Donald Trump and the Pope in a heated debate over what it means to be Christian.
You can't write this stuff. The world is hilarious. People are hilarious.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
Don't try to understand what Trump says it's total nonsense used manipulate peopl based on feelings (read racism) rather than logic (which true of a lot of politicians, his is just a lot mre blatant, due to the general overtness of his statements it)
Not only that but a few of them have flat out said they are going to build a wall as well, including his closest rival Ted Cruz.
EDIT:
Rubio has said the same thing.
I think the only ones still running that flat out said no to a wall are Bush and Kasich.
Rubio: https://youtu.be/MqzmMWPvFiE?t=2m9s
Cruz: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4K2Rl9ruyE8
Mr. Poolman
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Those crafty and sneaky Mexicans
OuterLimits
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Wait, doesn't Vatican city have a wall around it? Tear down the wall Pope.
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