Ah cool I didn't know that!
I see that Masa Chatani was also involved, he was one of the lead architect of the PS3, he was on stage with Kutaragi during E3 2005.
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October 2015 NPD (U.S. Hardware) Predictions - Closes November 10th
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Ah cool I didn't know that!
I see that Masa Chatani was also involved, he was one of the lead architect of the PS3, he was on stage with Kutaragi during E3 2005.
I found this to be an excellent catch from the other thread:
Gives us a bit of clarity about what to expect despite the spin.
Gives us a bit of clarity about what to expect despite the spin.
This is what happens when we don't get any sales numbers lmaoo. We have to speculate based on time spent playing the game lol.
I mean yea it is literally all we have to go by.
The Mad Draklor
Member
For reference, here are UK week 1 sales numbers.
HALO 3 - 370,000
HALO 4 - 336,000
HALO 5: GUARDIANS - 150,000
Omnistalgic
Member
But those digital sales could be another 200,000 units my man...It's all about the revenue anyway.
There's some massive revisionist BS going on in the Halo 5 MS PR thread... Next level stuff.
I've seen people saying that MS was actually including the hardware in the Halo3 1st week sales of $300m (they weren't), and now there's some magical math happening coming to the conclusion that Halo 5 may just have outsold Halo 3 massively, or at the minimum sold just as much as Halo4 (3.1m units in the US).
Man, the October results NPD thread might just become the thread of the year.
I've seen people saying that MS was actually including the hardware in the Halo3 1st week sales of $300m (they weren't), and now there's some magical math happening coming to the conclusion that Halo 5 may just have outsold Halo 3 massively, or at the minimum sold just as much as Halo4 (3.1m units in the US).
Man, the October results NPD thread might just become the thread of the year.
I left that thread after a few pages, it devolved into fanboy wars very very quickly.
EDIT: It's not like the Ubisoft thread was any better, to be fair.
No way it sold that much in the US. MS would have gladly given out those numbers. Hate that NPD is in another week.
Halo 1, 2, and 4 were in November. REACH was early in September. Halo 3 is the closest, but it still has an extra week of sales.
Dat consistency
Halo 2 sold the same in its first month. Halo 1 was the underperformer of the bunch! *whistles innocently*
Halo 2 - £9.7 million / 260,000 units
Halo 3 - £16.9 million / 370,000 units
Halo 5 - £7.7 million / 150 000 units
Hm...why everbody make damn excuses about digital sales if they're not high in average.
Yep, good thing I left the thread as soon as the shitstorm began. One of the posters actually tried to make others eat crow by pointing out that Halo 5 was the best selling digital game on XB1 to prove his statement that 90% of consumers bought it digitally. Man, the October NPD thread is gonna be have trucks load in salt every minute.
where is the PR.. i didnt see any PR..
ethomaz
Banned
Where you get these values? The revenue.
You sure he wasn't joking? It sounds like that joke that sprang from the UK thread (9 friends = 90% digital attach rate)
But then again, I wouldn't know. I'm too scared to go into that Halo PR thread. :/
It'll be lucky if it sells 2 million, let alone 2.8.
Cthulhu_Steev
Member
Pretty sure that poster was the very same one who gave us the '9/10
It's the same guy, who then went into the US pr thread that has no actual copies sold within it to argue "look at this picture of a crow".
Yeah, I'm sure. He was the same guy who made the incredibly ridiculous statement in the first place and tried to use the PR from Microsoft to back his claim. Just shows you how delusional some posters are in that thread.
No way will the drop off be that bad.
I just read someone trying to redefine what the word "revenue" means in that PR thread. Apparently revenue now means the exact same thing as profit. Why you ask? Well apparently "because MS always reported HW & Software sales for each release and that's clear when you factor in the fact that "MS revenue" was less than $60 per copy sold." .....
Basically the SalesGAF equivalent of "well it depends on what your definition of is is"
Delusional is far too kind of a word to describe what is occurring in that thread.
Basically the SalesGAF equivalent of "well it depends on what your definition of is is"
Delusional is far too kind of a word to describe what is occurring in that thread.
Xan Kriegor
Banned
Seeing the cynicism in this thread, when NPD comes, I doubt that people will accept the fact that the FPS market has changed a lot since Halo 3 and it will ultimately result in 'lol Halo xbox is dead'.
Nobody is saying Halo is dead we are saying its in decline. One is absurd and the other is what most assumed to be common sense. Yet we have people legitimately believing this will be the best selling entry in the series if other threads are to be believed.
Xan Kriegor
Banned
I don't think anyone can argue that Halo is not in a decline.
I take it you haven't visited some of the Halo threads posted today then? That's exactly what some are doing and their logic to support their claims is straight up asinine.
For an example look at the post I made a few minutes ago wherein people were attempting to redefine "revenue" in order to prove that all Halo or incident Software & Hardware sales and therefore Halo 5 was actually the best selling entry in the series according to the PR.
Or the ones who are saying software sales numbers don't matter that the revenue figures from the PR prove that Halo 5 is the biggest success in the series so far.
LOL, go easy on them, man. It's not easy to accept the fact that one of your favorite franchises sold significantly less than previous entries. I would probably feel the same way if Uncharted 4 bombed
Kenzodielocke
Banned
Lol, the Halo PR statement and the other UK sales thread is full of deniers of that very fact, that there is a decline.
wapplew
Member
LOL, go easy on them, man. It's not easy to accept the fact that one of your favorite franchises sold significantly less than previous entries. I would probably feel the same way if Uncharted 4 bombed
Luckily my favorite franchises are not huge seller so it can hardly bomb.
tattooed_dwarf
Member
So this thread has turned to discussion about another thread, weird times.
That's because the sales are nothing to boast about in the first place
Fair point. I'll cease and desist. Just couldn't believe what I was reading.
i think some people are under estimating the Halo franchise a lot too. Ok it has got bad results in UK but still in USA i think it will get a reasonable showing.. I dont expect to see it it setting the charts on fire but reading Abdiel assessment i feel it has met the expectations. i expect to see Halo 5 around 2 - 2.3 million in NPD.. Which is definitely not bad.
Amazon best sellers for November is showing up and its been dominated by all of Playstation consoles.
I know its too early to call anything as its only been a few days but they are only going to go up from here on end.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/2015-11/videogames#2
I know its too early to call anything as its only been a few days but they are only going to go up from here on end.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/2015-11/videogames#2
tattooed_dwarf
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Those threads always make me question my time usage in here. But it isn't often gladly.
On topic, seems that most PS4 bundles are ahead of Xbox bundles in monthly now, no surprises there. Biggest surprise for me is poor pre orders of Fallout bundle.
Should of been 349 instead.
ProfessorMoran
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I'm surprised the Halo 5 bundle was #62 when I checked, that's a bit low.
Trust me. I'm a PhD
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Four SKUs of PS4 before the first XB1... wolf. Only a few days into the month, so not too telling just yet, but heck of an opening week for team blue.
Well, about 25 Borderlands DLC packs entered in charts yesterday. Anyway, Halo 5 bundle is in decline on hourly charts constantly.
tattooed_dwarf
Member
True, or themed console.
Isn't November NPD decided largely by Black Friday? I don't think we should make any judgements yet based on the first few days being projections of the weeks to come. I'm certainly interested in MS Black Friday strategy and if Sony will do anything drastic given that they just had a price drop
tattooed_dwarf
Member
Black Friday is huge, but we must remember that Sony has bundles for two biggest games if year, CoD and Battlefront. And those sell most in first days they are out. Though I'm sure MS will offer those games with their consoles as plus one game too. Interesting month.
Dougieflesh
Member
Microsoft is gonna have to throw everything they have at Black Friday to stand a chance this month. Those ps4 bundles have too much momentum.
Definitely. Sony was really smart with all of their marketing partnerships this gen - first they get "exciting" new franchises like Watch Dogs and Destiny, leaving MS with the more "tired" Ass Creed and, arguably, Advanced Warfare. Then this year they're on the Star Wars train as well as the next Treyarch CoD. Complete this with some Disney sprinklings and whatnot. It really feels like they've been much more aggressive in this front than Microsoft has. The only thing comparable is FO4 ... but I'm waiting to see what if any impact that game has on hardware sales. Of course there's Tomb Raider but as I've said previously MS and SE have been so noncommittal with the game it's being sent to die in the US.