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Official 2008 "I Need A New PC" Thread
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rhfb said:MSI P7N SLI Platinum LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 750i SLI ATX Intel Motherboard
OCZ Platinum 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel
Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 ST3500320AS 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive
SAPPHIRE 100247L Radeon HD 4870 512MB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550 Yorkfield 2.83GHz LGA 775 95W Quad-Core Processor Model Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 64-bit English
CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply
Forgot I removed a power supply, so thats why my cost was so low. After the rebates, the above plus other misc items would be 1250 shipped... Thinking it should be a decent build... Can slap in another 4gb of ram down the road if needed, and the same goes for the 4870. Suggestions? Only thing that has kept me from pulling the trigger now is that i7 is JUST around the corner
Get a VisionTek 4870. No performance difference or anything, but their CS is much better than Sapphire's.
edit: your mobo is a SLI board. You need a Crossfire board. SLI is NVidia, Crossfire is ATI
blackMamba1187
Member
Open Source said:
Does the P5Q-E not support crossfire? It says it does on newegg and I was about to pull the trigger on monday.
If anyone can help, I'm looking for an intel motherboard that will support crossfire (future purchase), up to 16 gb ram and can overclock. Also one that is around $175-200.
rhfb said:
A lot of the parts you have are meant for overclocking, like the ram. Be honest with yourself, if you plan to OC. If not, you can swap out a few of the parts, with others that will work equally as well, but you pay less because they don't have certain overclocking features.
Especially the ram. When you put the ram in your motherboard, it will run default at PC6400 speeds. To achieve the timings that are shown in the heading when you order, you have to manually overclock it. So if you don't plan on overclocking, then why not go for cheaper ram, that will run faster at PC6400 speeds.
MaritalWheat
Member
I can take my DVD drive from an old machine and put it in a new one, right? Is there something I have to do first?
I am stuck between getting the dual core and the quad core. Both are the same price on newegg (189.99). The dual core is 3.0 and the quad core is 2.4.
People say quad will not help older games but it will help newer games. Should I invest for the future then? I know I can overclock the quad to above 3.
Also, I am really interested in the PNY 9800 GX2 1GB card. Any information on this? I know it is huge!
Thanks
People say quad will not help older games but it will help newer games. Should I invest for the future then? I know I can overclock the quad to above 3.
Also, I am really interested in the PNY 9800 GX2 1GB card. Any information on this? I know it is huge!
Thanks
Branskins said:
1. It's up to you if they are the same price. I would personally go for the dual core, becuase they clock much higher. You can't really future proof a CPU, especially with new ones coming around the corner. However, both will last you 1+ year.
2. If you use a 1900X1080, 1900X1200 or greater monitor, I would pick up the PNY 9800GX2. Otherwise, I would go for the 4870. I am assuming you are buying the 9800Gx2 for the reduced PNY price of like $270.
JudgeN said:
Noctua NH-U12P
Also a good choice. It performs on par with a TRUE, but it comes with one of the best fans money can buy, and has the best mounting system out of any HSF.
To put it in perspective. I use the mini version of this, the NH-U9B. It's much smaller with less copper tubes that are also smaller then the NH-U12P's. However I still have my E8400 Overclocked to 4ghz and it idles only in the high 30's.
I will be picking up the larger version soon (mainly because I am lazy, and don't want to take my motherboard out to install a new mounting system)
Chiggs said:
I agree, the 9800GX2 is an amazing buy at its current price. It plays Crysis really well along with everything else. But the 4870 is priced slightly less and has very similar, if not superior, gaming results.
The 9800GX2 suffers badly from microstuttering and low framerate dips.
I'm on a P35 chipset and I'm really torn on what graphics card to buy. There's so many options!! This winter I plan to play my PC games on a 1080P TV.
P35 does not support crossfire (well it does, but it sucks), so I can't buy two 4870s.
P35 does not support SLI at all.
The 4870 is a great card but the 4870X2 trumps it at higher resolutions. And I won't be paying $270 for a 4870. But I won't be paying $550 for a 4870X2 either.
The Geforce 260/280 are still possible choices, especially with future Physx games... I'm really pumped for Mirrors Edge and Aliens: Colonel Marines. And I can overclock the hell out of a 260...
So I'm not really too sure. I think my best bet is definitely the 4870X2, maybe I'll just wait for prices to come down.
P35 does not support crossfire (well it does, but it sucks), so I can't buy two 4870s.
P35 does not support SLI at all.
The 4870 is a great card but the 4870X2 trumps it at higher resolutions. And I won't be paying $270 for a 4870. But I won't be paying $550 for a 4870X2 either.
The Geforce 260/280 are still possible choices, especially with future Physx games... I'm really pumped for Mirrors Edge and Aliens: Colonel Marines. And I can overclock the hell out of a 260...
So I'm not really too sure. I think my best bet is definitely the 4870X2, maybe I'll just wait for prices to come down.
I play at 1680x1050. Also, my family is pretty much nvidia only people, and since they are helping pay for this system, it might be hard to convince them to switch to ATI.
What can the 2.4 quad-core be clocked to you think? I always try to buy my computer to last the next four years. I am really stuck on deciding between the dual core/quad core!
About the gx2 stuttering thing: is that more of a driver issue?
What can the 2.4 quad-core be clocked to you think? I always try to buy my computer to last the next four years. I am really stuck on deciding between the dual core/quad core!
About the gx2 stuttering thing: is that more of a driver issue?
Chiggs
Gold Member
Badabing said:
I agree the microstuttering can be an issue, but to say that a single 4870 is better than a 9800GX2 is just flatout untrue. Look at the benchmarks:
http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3341&p=16
GX2 is beastly.
Branskins said:
Yes, and it's not that awful. In some games it's worse than others.
Manp
Member
Hazaro said:
no wait, you need to explain now :lol how can you cut yourself that way while mounting the 9700?
i really don't remember even touching the heatsink while fixing it to the motherboard
i guess if you're going to lap the base you probably have to hold it in a way that can cause those cuts.
Manp said:no wait, you need to explain now :lol how can you cut yourself that way while mounting the 9700?
i really don't remember even touching the heatsink while fixing it to the motherboard
i guess if you're going to lap the base you probably have to hold it in a way that can cause those cuts.
The fins are really really sharp.
What else is there to know :lol
Chiggs said:
The GX2 will be bottle necked by his CPU at 1680X1050 unless he does some heavy overclocking.
It would not be bottle necked however if he was playing at a larger resolution.
This is why cards like the GX2 and 4870X2, perform best at larget resolutions.
Thats why buying dual GPU cards, or SLI/Cross fire configs, is useless unless you heavily overclock, or run a 1080P+ setup.
Chiggs
Gold Member
Branskins said:
I still think the 9800GX2 is your best bet. It's power is incredible, especially for the price. And as far as the 1680X1050 issue goes, just crank up the AA and AF.
And if you're going to try to make this last for 4 years, Quad Core is most certainly the way to go.
Fallout-NL
Member
Cept 'microstuttering' sounds like it's really fucking annoying.
VictimOfGrief
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Go search the [H] forms... there are guys going on crusades over it's existence in the world.Fallout-NL said: