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Official All-Pro Football 2k8 Neo-GAF Online League Thread: Rats off to ya!
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I have it... BojTrek1 on X-Box Live...
It is not bad, but it is really last-generation. I see myself playing a few games here and there.
The graphics and faces are terrible... this is coming from a 2K fan... the players hiccup and look robotic. Imagine the robot dance, that is what the animation after a play looks like.
I am not going to continue with my graphics rant... this game is definitely not next-gen at all. Very poor effort...
Disappointed...
It is not bad, but it is really last-generation. I see myself playing a few games here and there.
The graphics and faces are terrible... this is coming from a 2K fan... the players hiccup and look robotic. Imagine the robot dance, that is what the animation after a play looks like.
I am not going to continue with my graphics rant... this game is definitely not next-gen at all. Very poor effort...
Disappointed...
I know... I know... I have really gotten fat and old...
But here is a really bad video of me and my beloved 2K Sports series...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWIztBpuMc8
But here is a really bad video of me and my beloved 2K Sports series...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWIztBpuMc8
Played like 2 games co-op with buddies today and it was sweet. Graphics really aren't as bad as people are making them out to be. I'm playing on a 1080p DLP, there's no aliasing at all. It's pretty much 2K5 in HD which isn't terrible, but it's just not next-gen. When one guy was playing quarterback and I played receiver, there was an awesome play we pulled off. I slanted in, hit the r trigger to juke, and slanted out. I was using a bronze WR and left the generic DB flailing. Needless to say the TD was hotness.
Some things that nagged the crap out of me were certain animations that take you out of the play. There's still the animation where you hit the catch button and the receivermight try to catch the ball low even though it's going over his shoulder, resulting in a goofy off the helmet bounce. OUt of 2 full games we only saw it happen twice though. Another thing (which I hope is because I haven't spent enough time with the game) is that with auto strafe on, defense is unbearable, but with it on it's weird. I was Butkus, and I couldn't really get into any sort of groove. I would run past guys on a 1 on 1. I couldn't consistenly cover a player. Like I'd follow him but if the ball was thrown in that direction I would over or under shoot everytime.
Playing co-op is crazy fun though, and by the 2nd game we were in a good rythm and playing well. On our final drive in the 4th for the win the game froze though
Some things that nagged the crap out of me were certain animations that take you out of the play. There's still the animation where you hit the catch button and the receivermight try to catch the ball low even though it's going over his shoulder, resulting in a goofy off the helmet bounce. OUt of 2 full games we only saw it happen twice though. Another thing (which I hope is because I haven't spent enough time with the game) is that with auto strafe on, defense is unbearable, but with it on it's weird. I was Butkus, and I couldn't really get into any sort of groove. I would run past guys on a 1 on 1. I couldn't consistenly cover a player. Like I'd follow him but if the ball was thrown in that direction I would over or under shoot everytime.
Playing co-op is crazy fun though, and by the 2nd game we were in a good rythm and playing well. On our final drive in the 4th for the win the game froze though
ChrisJames
Member
SonnyBoy said:
Don't worry this game is really, really good. No the graphics aren't awesome (especially when the camera is zoomed out (kickoffs, long pass plays, etc.)), but the gameplay is ****ing awesome (i.e. everything I wanted it to be).
I just got done creating my team and their logo, team name, colors, etc. and played a game and I was really impressed with how much fun the gameplay is and how smooth it feels. Also, I love playing defense in this game, which is always a plus. The game does have some stupid things like ridiculous player conversations during the game and between plays, but it's not really bad and, like I said, the gameplay is awesome. I really can't wait to play some online tonight...
If you were a fan of 2k5 you will love this game, and that's about all you need to know imo.
Nightz said:I'm in the exact same boat. I bought the game during my lunch break, but I have another 2 1/2 hours at work, plus 45 minutes in traffic before I can play
Same. At least the impressions so far have me pretty excited. My expectations going in were that it would be a really fun game with the usual 2K flaws, and so far that seems to be the case.
Oh, and te pocket that forms around the quarterback will bring a tear to your eye. It's one of the most realistic things in a football game. For those who don't run out of the pocket everytime they pass, watch the replay of a pass play and how the O-line reacts, it's spectacular.
FrenchMovieTheme
Member
konex isn't renting the game. he's buying it from bb
dskillzhtown
keep your strippers out of my American football
BojTrek said:
Has hell frozen over?
sportzhead
Member
Quick impressions.
Graphics are good, not great.
Best animations I have ever seen in a football game.
Presentation is excellent. (Example, team calls a time out with 40 seconds left in the half, game shows Steve Young walking to the sideline to talk with his head coach.)
Audio is top notch.
Crowd really gets behind the home team.
Game is so much fun to play.
Something really cool I just say. A WR actually dropped a pass. It was an actual animation, not just the ball hitting him in the hands and falling towards the ground. He failed to catch it, causing the ball to bounce off his hands and then hit him in the helmet before it hit the ground. The game even replayed it and commentated about it during the replay. Also say a WR try to catch a deep ball but the ball was under thrown causing it to hit him on top of his helmet.
Graphics are good, not great.
Best animations I have ever seen in a football game.
Presentation is excellent. (Example, team calls a time out with 40 seconds left in the half, game shows Steve Young walking to the sideline to talk with his head coach.)
Audio is top notch.
Crowd really gets behind the home team.
Game is so much fun to play.
Something really cool I just say. A WR actually dropped a pass. It was an actual animation, not just the ball hitting him in the hands and falling towards the ground. He failed to catch it, causing the ball to bounce off his hands and then hit him in the helmet before it hit the ground. The game even replayed it and commentated about it during the replay. Also say a WR try to catch a deep ball but the ball was under thrown causing it to hit him on top of his helmet.
Lion Heart
Banned
sportzhead said:
Can someone confirm this? This is the best thing a football game can have!1
Lion Heart said:
Well if you know the 2K series they're all jam packed with animations. Definitely more than Madden, you will see new animations for months to come. With the good comes the bad though. Some animations take you out of an otherwise easy play, or receivers will get fancy and actually drop passes.
1up review...can't see it from work..I hear it's not good.
http://www.1up.com/do/reviewPage?cId=3161361
Please post contents!
http://www.1up.com/do/reviewPage?cId=3161361
Please post contents!
maynerd said:
Lame comment, play Blitz if you don't like strategy.
The right stick is used to make big hits as well, so this is misleading.
Also, the field view comment absolutely false. All players are seen in this view, this guy has a shit overscanning TV.
It got a 6.5, but some of the points here are off or just false.
maynerd said:
It's hard for me to take 1up's reviews of sports games seriously after their horrible review of MLB 07: The Show for the PS3. It was given a bad score for a multitude of idiotic reasons (including how the team flags in the outfield were unrealistic or something stupid like that). It was just terribly written.
RattleHead_
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By Todd Zuniga 07/17/2007maynerd said:
"It feels like it's been way longer than two years since EA's Madden series hijacked the NFL license and tackled 2K's football efforts for, I thought, good. But with the release of All-Pro Football 2K8, it looks like my inner Nostradamus failed me again, which is happy news for the 2K faithful -- especially those that are still playing NFL 2K5 (many, many people, surprisingly).
But while there's a lot of mental momentum behind All-Pro Football -- meaning people want it to live up to being a next-gen version of 2K's NFL franchise -- it simply doesn't. In part, it's because 2K5 was a really, really polished game that sort of stands as "folklorishly" good at this point. But also because -- like Madden when it first came to next-gen consoles -- the experience feels a bit thin.
The selling point on the back of the box is the inclusion of NFL legends, one category where All-Pro Football's packed to the gills. The game's got over 240 former players, and while all of them don't really live up to the "legend" label (we love you, Natrone Means, but "legend"?), many of them -- John Elway, Barry Sanders, Jerry Rice, Ronnie Lott, Walter Payton -- most assuredly do. The list of studs is long, and to balance the gameplay, each team has a shot at two gold-tier players (Joe Montana, OJ Simpson), three silver-tier guys (Randall Cunningham, Ed "Too Tall" Jones), and six bronze-tier players (Rulon Jones, Bryce Paup). Plus, All-Pro Football's got the Tecmo Bowl guys that you'll be clamoring to play with, like Christian "The Nigerian Nightmare" Okoye (though Bo Jackson is sadly absent). After you pick your 11 starters, peons get tossed in to fill in the gaps. The idea is that there's strategy in your selection process. Load up on offense, and you won't be able to make stops. Only take name players, and your offensive line will be in shambles. Take a monster defense, and your offense will have to scratch and claw for seven. It's a smart system, though some of the teams you play will have an imbalance -- the Legends team, for example, has six gold-tier players, while the Sailors have none. Strange.
As for how the legends play, most guys feel enough like their real-life counterparts (Randall Cunningham, for example, can hoof it -- even on the dead run). But the visual particulars aren't there: Elway isn't pigeon-toed; Barry Sanders doesn't have his fingers taped. The tiny details are missing. But the worst of it comes when a player like Barry Sanders -- who never celebrated after scoring in his entire life -- does the "Dirty Bird" after breaking off a 40-yard TD run. It's completely out of place.
The secondary selling point to the game, the one not written on the back of the box, is that it's the alternative to Madden. It's been too long since there's been a choice, and you'll find some seriously solid gameplay in All-Pro Football. Finding a receiver in traffic makes you feel like a million bucks, and the running game is fantastic because of the blocking. You can literally see holes and have time to get to them before they close up. Some of the great things are subtle: The kicking meter is cool and intuitive (you use the analog stick like the kicker's leg, pushing up when it's time to light into the ball), and when a QB wants to go deep, he'll really pull back before launching it into the cosmos -- it keeps you from flicking a 60-yard bomb on the run with two defenders on your heels. It's very well done. One place where the gameplay staggers, though, is the route running. Wideouts will simply run their routes, and then stand there like their feet are in concrete. If you scramble for too long, you're screwed.
Tight gameplay and a long list of legends (and legend wannabes) make this sound like a passable game, even without the NFL license. And it is. But things get rocky when it comes to the game modes...because there really aren't any. You can play a season or play online, and that's it. No minigames, no dynasty mode. All-Pro Football's just flat outside of the gameplay.
Artistically, the 2K team earns points for its originality. The stadiums are awesome (in a fun, cheesy way), and the logos and fake teams (Rustlers, Scorpions, Sharks, and so on) are smart and convincing. But the player heads are troubled, as the faces look constructed from wads of Play-Doh. And is that John Elway or Troy Aikman? It's tough to tell them apart. Plus, the play-call menus are mind-numbing. Defense is lame enough in a football videogame -- don't make us call a play for the secondary and the linemen. It's maddening.
Some other random thoughts: The late-hit calls are cool (you can't just hammer a player after the whistle blows), the players talking to each other on the field is sort of cheesy (but tolerable), the crowd noise and reaction is exceptional (go for it on 4th and 29 and hear them boo), the flea-flicker works too well (they can't seriously go for it three plays straight, right?), the games move wonderfully fast, the developers didn't use the right analog stick properly (it's only used to do a small wiggle on offense, and on defense it's a way to grab players as they run by, and rarely if ever works), the ability to view the play and your players is goofy when you're trying to survey the field pre-snap (guys on the far side of the screen aren't in the picture, even if you're playing on a wide screen), and there's no way to pan the camera.
This is a solid game overall -- and without a doubt, All-Pro Football should continue building on this foundation. But if you were expecting 2K euphoria after two years on the sidelines, you'll be disappointed, as this one's got rust in many of the wrong places. "
SickBoy said:
I guess they gave NCAA 08 an 8.5
http://www.1up.com/do/reviewPage?cId=3161358&sec=REVIEWS
Moneyhats confirmed?
mysticstylez
Banned
It seems like Todd gave it a low score mainly due to lack of modes, which isn't really a bad thing.
sportzhead
Member
1up said:
Why are you even reviewing a football sim game dude? 1up is a joke of a website, at least for sports games.
dskillzhtown said:
I have not given the gameplay any actual review but the GRAPHICS really do suck and are last generation...
Except for the jersey mesh on closeups...
I'll tell you what living in Chicago for 37 years... Walter Payton didn't look like his game counterpart... ever...
WOW! 2K Sports used to be really, really, really good at faces... NBA2K2 and 3 were incredible...
FrenchMovieTheme
Member
did anyone else get the special edition with vernon davis on the cover? i didn't even know there was a special edition of the game. oh well, it was worth it for an extra $10
Talladega Knight
Member
lol, vernon davis? uhh...why?FrenchMovieTheme said:
FrenchMovieTheme
Member
hang on... people CARE about faces in football games? you play with a helmet on...
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mysticstylez said:
Madden 06 on the 360 got raked over the coals for this... but since 2k is putting out a game its no longer a bad thing?
mysticstylez
Banned
Favre4435 said:
Hey if a game "plays" great, I can live without a lack of game modes. Hell Crackdown is one of the shallowest "sandbox" games out there, and its by far my favorite cause the game "plays" fun as can be.