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I hoped for SC4 too, but does this indicate stronger ties between EA and Microsoft? For the demo, we get hopkins vs jones, but they had ali vs frazier.
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Official CES 2006 Thread (AGAIN)
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I hoped for SC4 too, but does this indicate stronger ties between EA and Microsoft? For the demo, we get hopkins vs jones, but they had ali vs frazier.
Kleegamefan
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golem said:Panasonic 9th gen plasma!
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=626355
10000:1 contrast
wish they res bumped the smaller screens, but oh well
Sucks that the 50-inch isn't 1080p.....looks like we will have to wait longer for that one...
GitarooMan
Member
That 55 inch Sony SXRD looks hot. No side speakers, likely 1080p input, I hope it comes out by the summer, although I bet fall is more likely
one quick (and stupid?) question about BRD and HD-DVD.
Will both support 1080i over component? I am not looking at a new TV until next year at the earliest, so in the living room I am stuck with component (well, actually could do firewire but I know that's not even an option). So am I good to go for this spring?
Will both support 1080i over component? I am not looking at a new TV until next year at the earliest, so in the living room I am stuck with component (well, actually could do firewire but I know that's not even an option). So am I good to go for this spring?
truffleshuffle83
Banned
so BR and HDDVD will still do 720p and 1080i over HDMI right?? its not limited to 1080p right?
borghe said:
There are countless threads at AVS that disscuss this.
For example he is just only one of the threads.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/archive/index.php/t-493102.html
kaching said:
Really? Looks like it has to me..
http://www.crutchfield.com/S-YYezdqjQIH3/cgi-bin/ProdView.asp?i=052HDA1
plays HD DVD high-definition discs (selectable 720p/1080i output available through HDMI output only HDMI cable included)
the avs link holds nothing anywhere near definitive other than a couple people who think they know what they are talking about though admit to having nothing definite besides "a feeling".
and the crutchfield link... gee.. when was the last time a retailer had an advance solicitation page that was wrong.
please stop spreading misinformation. it might actually happen, but at this point as kaching has said, NOTHING has been announced yet.
kaching - as for HD DVD, how is MS going to enforce HD DVD over anything other than component on XBox 360? It sounds like BS to me at this point.
edit 2 - crutchfield is just bullet-pointing the Toshiba PR, (verbatim) which has NO mention of component anywhere in there (good or bad). Again it needs to be said that NO DECISION EITHER WAY HAS FORMALLY BEEN ANNOUNCED. That's all I was looking for.
and the crutchfield link... gee.. when was the last time a retailer had an advance solicitation page that was wrong.
please stop spreading misinformation. it might actually happen, but at this point as kaching has said, NOTHING has been announced yet.
kaching - as for HD DVD, how is MS going to enforce HD DVD over anything other than component on XBox 360? It sounds like BS to me at this point.
edit 2 - crutchfield is just bullet-pointing the Toshiba PR, (verbatim) which has NO mention of component anywhere in there (good or bad). Again it needs to be said that NO DECISION EITHER WAY HAS FORMALLY BEEN ANNOUNCED. That's all I was looking for.
BlueTsunami
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truffleshuffle83 said:
both 720p and 1080i should be supported. The device would need a scaler inside to downscale the video to 720p/1080i. So it really depends on the device.
truffleshuffle83
Banned
borghe said:
well the HD-DVD addon will most liekly have hdmi out and will be connected to the 360 through usb.
Kleegamefan said:
A 50" Panny 1080p was talked about. No pricing yet. Panasonic ussually take longer than Pioneer when it comes to resolution but they beat them on PQ(10,000:1 contrast etc.) and importantly price. It will without a doubt cost less than the Pioneer 50" and be great quality too. Rest assured it will be one of the benchmark tv
Because these are high end players. They feature extra connectors and features normal players wont have. Pioneer even added wireless media connectivity(yes its all ready for you) and are boasting about its extra music features. 1080p currently seems to be a premium too. Not all the players can do 1080p.
golem said:
Notice that the PS3 Blu ray player is software decoded. Hence it being cheap and not as good as real BD players. Its still killer however and i doubt anyone will complain about having it.
BlueTsunami
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The whole thing about the Analog outputt with the 360 is weird (I don't want to turn this into a thread speculating about it though). It seems that the sole reason that Anandtech thinks its just an analog output is because Microsoft isn't offering an HDMI/DVI cable (From what i've read). If thats the case, thats not the best case on how the 360 only ouputs an analog signal.
borghe said:
Hey man, go search for the threads on AVS. If you have some of the top people in the industry saying it won't happen then I doubt it will.
Hell you even have groups which want to prevent HD being limited over HDMI only because they know that is where the industry is going.
http://www.dvdsite.org/
The real reason a lot of the big Hollywood studios are supporting HD-DVD and Blu-Ray is because they HAVE MUCH tighter security. If you really think studios wont have any problem with people have nice HD feeds over component which can be easily copied and distributed over the internet then you will be in for a shock when you take one of these new players into your home.
Oh well believe what you want.
doubtful. EXTREMELY doubtful. So it would need to read data from the HD DVD over usb, the xbox software decoder would have to decode the signal, then send the decoded video (and audio?) BACK through the USB to the external transport where the video could be modulated and sent out HDMI?truffleshuffle83 said:
I STRONGLY doubt that.
As for 360 doing digital output, while I would certainly buy it is possible (given the size of that freaking jack), one has to wonder why they haven't already shipped an HDMI cable if that is the case? weird.
well, in two months all will probably be answered between the two. and if one is component HD capable and one isn't, that pretty much seals which format I'll hop on first. The bedroom set can do HDCP-DVI, but at 32 inches and in the bedroom it certainly takes very little precidence.
Guy LeDouche
Banned
Exactly what Sony wants Joe Sixpack to think. Sure, Sony actually makes money on the $1800 model, but chances are if you buy the PS3, you'll then buy some games, maybe decide to sign up for PlayStation Connect (or whatever they end up calling it), etc.golem said:
I am a regular over at AVS. I am well aware of the debates and mentions. I only asked if anything has been ANNOUNCED, which it hasn't. I don't believe anything one way or another. I am just looking for official information, of which there is none. I simply called you out on acting all definitive and such when no official information has been released one way or the other.GeoNeo said:
If it supports HDMI only, so be it. Not like I have a say. But to come in and say "it won't happen." when frankly nothing has been set in stone aside from people WHO AREN'T RESPSONBLE FOR IT saying what they think or what they heard, is kind of annoying.
truffleshuffle83
Banned
borghe said:
it could us two usb ports, one for receiving and one for sending. the bandwidth is there to support tha high bitrate. that seems like the only viable option is they want to make it cheap unless they chain it between the 360 and the hard drive
only IF they want to limit it to HDMI and only IF The 360 doesn't support HDMI. If they aren't concerned with HDMI or if the 360 supports it, the simplest (and smartest) move is to just use the drive as a transport and do all the decoding and modulation on the 360 itself, being that half of that (modulation) is already there in the form of hardware on the system.truffleshuffle83 said:
not to mention USB2 is not fast enough for HDMI video IIRC.
borghe said:
You never asked if it had been ANNOUNCED.
borghe said:
I don't see you asking at all if you could get links to some press from the HD-DVD and BluRay group which covers the issue at all.
All I did was provide links which back up that it looks like there will be no HD over component. No need to get so upset.
you are correct, I never specifically asked if it had been announced, but asking what the case is and being given message board conjecture at best are two different things. anyway, I've moved on. Nothing is definite. I guess I (and many others) will just have to wait until March to see.
edit - having seen a picture of the back of the HD DVD unit in the other thread (where component is clearly there) at this point I would be pretty floored if it didn't support 1080i output over component. when you have all the other devices out there that support 1080i over component (newest video game systems, computers, D-VHS, etc) to be the only device out there to not do so SOLELY because you are worried about the less than 100K W-VHS VCRs out there that aren't even capable of a digital soundtrack seems silly. If it happens I will be shocked. and disappointed.
edit - having seen a picture of the back of the HD DVD unit in the other thread (where component is clearly there) at this point I would be pretty floored if it didn't support 1080i output over component. when you have all the other devices out there that support 1080i over component (newest video game systems, computers, D-VHS, etc) to be the only device out there to not do so SOLELY because you are worried about the less than 100K W-VHS VCRs out there that aren't even capable of a digital soundtrack seems silly. If it happens I will be shocked. and disappointed.
Beer Monkey
Member
Does anybody have 'complete' announced release lists for Blu-Ray and HD-DVD movies?
beermonkey@tehbias said:
Paramount HD-DVD
New Titles - The Manchurian Candidate, Spongebob Squarepants, Elizabethtown, Coach Carter, The Italian Job, School of Rock, Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow
Catalog Titles - Forrest Gump, Braveheart, Ghost, Grease, Mission Impossible 2, Black Rain, Save the Last Dance, Sleepy Hollow, U2: Rattle and Hum, Vanilla Sky, Lara Croft: Tomb Raider, Star Trek: First Contact, We Were Soldiers
Universal HD-DVD
New Titles - The Bourne Supremacy, The Chronicles of Riddick, Van Helsing
Catalog Titles - Apollo 13, U-571, 12 Monkeys, Dune, The Thing, End of Days, Backdraft, Waterworld, The Bone Collector, Spy Game, Pitch Black, Conan the Barbarian, Dante's Peak
Warner Bros/HBO/New Line HD-DVD
New & Catalog Titles - Above the Law, Alexander, Angels in America (HBO), Austin Powers: International Man of Mystery (New Line), Batman Begins, Blade (New Line), Catwoman, Contact, Constantine, Charley and the Chocolate Factory, Dark City (New Line), The Dukes of Hazzard, Eraser, Executive Decision, Final Destination (New Line), Friday (New Line), From the Earth to the Moon (HBO), The Fugitive, Gothika, Hard to Kill, Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone, Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets, Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban, House of Wax (2005), The Last Samurai, The Mask (New Line), The Matrix, The Matrix Reloaded, The Matrix Revolutions, Maverick, Million Dollar Baby, The Music Man, Mystic River, Next of Kin, North by Northwest, Ocean's Eleven, Ocean's Twelve, Passenger 57, The Perfect Storm, The Phantom of the Opera (2004), The Player (New Line), The Polar Express, Red Planet, Rush Hour (New Line), Se7en (New Line), Soldier, The Sopranos (HBO), Spawn (New Line), Swordfish, Troy, Under Siege, U.S. Marshals, Wild Wild West
And Blu Ray:
20th Century Fox - 20 titles are expected to be ready for format launch, including Fantastic Four, Behind Enemy Lines, Kiss of the Dragon, The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, Ice Age and some 15 others. Fox also is preparing "two sci-fi titles to be announced later" for release on 50GB dual-layer discs (I'll bet one of the Alien films, and maybe ID4). Fox is exclusively supporting Blu-ray Disc.
Sony (MGM) - 20+ titles are expected for launch including xXx, Hitch, Charlie's Angels: Full Throttle, The Fifth Element, Legends of the Fall, House of Flying Daggers, The Fifth Element, Bram Stoker's Dracula, Desperado, For a Few Dollars More, The Guns of Navarone, A Knight's Tale, Kung Fu Hustle, The Last Waltz, Resident Evil: Apocalypse, Robocop, Sense and Sensibility, Stealth, Species and SWAT. All will be 25GB single-layer releases. Black Hawk Down and The Bridge on the River Kwai will be available later in the year (by summer) as 50GB dual-layer releases. It's also been revealed that Underworld Evolution will be released day-and-date with regular DVD later in 2006. Sony is exclusively supporting Blu-ray Disc.
Paramount - Revealed that it will release the same titles on BOTH HD-DVD and Blu-ray Disc in 2006. 10 titles are expected for launch under the "Paramount High Definition" banner, including Sahara, Aeon Flux, The Italian Job, Four Brothers, Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow, Lara Croft: Tomb Raider, U2: Rattle and Hum, Tim Burton's Sleepy Hollow, We Were Soldiers and The Manchurian Candidate. It's also been revealed that Mission: Impossible, Mission: Impossible 2 and Mission: Impossible 3 will all be released by the end of the year. You can bet Star Trek titles are on deck for 2006 as well.
Lionsgate - 10 titles are expected for launch including Lord of War, The Punisher, The Devil's Rejects, Saw, Terminator 2: Judgment Day, Reservoir Dogs, Total Recall, Frank Herbert's Dune and Rambo: First Blood. See No Evil will be the studio's first day-and-date title later in 2006. Lionsgate is exclusively supporting Blu-ray Disc.
Of course, more will be announced later today.
20th Century Fox - 20 titles are expected to be ready for format launch, including Fantastic Four, Behind Enemy Lines, Kiss of the Dragon, The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, Ice Age and some 15 others. Fox also is preparing "two sci-fi titles to be announced later" for release on 50GB dual-layer discs (I'll bet one of the Alien films, and maybe ID4). Fox is exclusively supporting Blu-ray Disc.
Sony (MGM) - 20+ titles are expected for launch including xXx, Hitch, Charlie's Angels: Full Throttle, The Fifth Element, Legends of the Fall, House of Flying Daggers, The Fifth Element, Bram Stoker's Dracula, Desperado, For a Few Dollars More, The Guns of Navarone, A Knight's Tale, Kung Fu Hustle, The Last Waltz, Resident Evil: Apocalypse, Robocop, Sense and Sensibility, Stealth, Species and SWAT. All will be 25GB single-layer releases. Black Hawk Down and The Bridge on the River Kwai will be available later in the year (by summer) as 50GB dual-layer releases. It's also been revealed that Underworld Evolution will be released day-and-date with regular DVD later in 2006. Sony is exclusively supporting Blu-ray Disc.
Paramount - Revealed that it will release the same titles on BOTH HD-DVD and Blu-ray Disc in 2006. 10 titles are expected for launch under the "Paramount High Definition" banner, including Sahara, Aeon Flux, The Italian Job, Four Brothers, Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow, Lara Croft: Tomb Raider, U2: Rattle and Hum, Tim Burton's Sleepy Hollow, We Were Soldiers and The Manchurian Candidate. It's also been revealed that Mission: Impossible, Mission: Impossible 2 and Mission: Impossible 3 will all be released by the end of the year. You can bet Star Trek titles are on deck for 2006 as well.
Lionsgate - 10 titles are expected for launch including Lord of War, The Punisher, The Devil's Rejects, Saw, Terminator 2: Judgment Day, Reservoir Dogs, Total Recall, Frank Herbert's Dune and Rambo: First Blood. See No Evil will be the studio's first day-and-date title later in 2006. Lionsgate is exclusively supporting Blu-ray Disc.
Of course, more will be announced later today.
DenogginizerOS
BenjaminBirdie's Thomas Jefferson
For me, there are A LOT more HD-DVD movies on those lists that I would buy than BR. The HBO Series alone (Sopranos) is more appealing.
DenogginizerOS said:
The Blu Ray list is hardly complete. Warner, New Line, HBO all plan to support Blu Ray as well(the titles already announced for HD-DVD and more). Disney still hasn't released their info, but they are exclusively backing Blu Ray. I'd expect the Blu Ray list to double in size by the end of the day.