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Official CES 2006 Thread (AGAIN)

No significant PS3 news after all. To think that some were expecting something playable, and Sony made the controller disappear in response :lol

Since not even price was announced, I highly doubt the thing will come out before E3 in Japan.
 
Endymion said:
No significant PS3 news after all. To think that some were expecting something playable, and Sony made the controller disappear in response :lol

Since not even price was announced, I highly doubt the thing will come out before E3 in Japan.
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Spring is into June 2006.

And also, nothing was supposed to be announced at CES for PS3.

Sony has set aside a show in FEBRUARY for this, for the billionth time.
 
Amir0x said:
Sony has set aside a show in FEBRUARY for this, for the billionth time.
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I can't wait for the "Sony's February Conference Official Thread". I predict alot of people calling out Sony for not announcing anything at CES until that happens.
 
Amir0x said:
Spring is into June 2006.

And also, nothing was supposed to be announced at CES for PS3.

Sony has set aside a show in FEBRUARY for this, for the billionth time.
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You are being a bit nervous my friend ;)
I know that nothing WAS TO be announced, about the february festival and when Spring ends. That didn't mean that nothing HADN'T TO or couldn't possibly be announced, did it? :)

I'm not blaming anyone here. What I was trying to say is that now that we know for sure that the price isn't being announced at CES, I think that a late march and even an april release appears less likely (which is good, as far as I am concerned).
 
ROG27(Over at B3D) said:
Check this out in particular...Gaming: what's on the inside...

Link:

http://www.cesweb.org/attendees/conferences/search/session_detail.asp?ID_session=GP6

Excerpt:

Description: The fact that the power of an enterprise computing system is now built into every game playing machine, with all of its technology dedicated specifically to the game playing experience goes all way to explaining why games are revolutionizing the future of entertainment. The combination of chips, microprocessors, optical technology, storage together with nearly unlimited R&D investment is rapidly leading to a next generation entertainment experience. Games are great today, but what will they look like in two or three years? In this session, we will hear from the technology companies that provide the developers and consumers with game power. They are the developers of the secret sauce that is establishing games as the future of entertainment.

Moderator: Auri Rahimzadeh, , The Envisioneering Group
Panelist: Chris Donahue, Group Manager, Windows Graphics & Gaming Technologies, Microsoft Corp.
Panelist: Bryce Johnstone, Worldwide Manager, OMAP Developer Network, Texas Instruments
Panelist: Jim Kahle, Chief Architect, Cell Technology, IBM Fellow, IBM Corporation
Panelist: Adam Lake, Sr. Software Engineer, Software Solutions Group, The Modern Game Technologies Project, Intel Corp.
Panelist: Bill Rehbock, Director of Developer Relations, Nvidia
Panelist: Brian Zucker, Technology Evangelist, Office of the CTO, Dell Computer

Nvidia on the panel....RSX details/overview?
IBM too...CELL/RSX interaction?
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Date: Wednesday, January 4 [Add to Outlook Calendar]
Time: 12:30 PM - 1:45 PM

ONE *LAST*(?) Chance maybe!!
HOo0ray?
About to start in 30 mins
 
Danj said:
According to a post on the Librie list, the release date is expected to be March/April, with a price point of $300 to $400 (which is less than the iRex Iliad's expected $500).
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Done, I will sell my VGA PDA on eBay after vacation. eBooks are the only reason I can't live without it (1.5 PSP eBook functionality sucks compared to a good PDA with the right readers installed).
 
Endymion said:
You are being a bit nervous my friend ;)
I know that nothing WAS TO be announced, about the february festival and when Spring ends. That didn't mean that nothing HADN'T or couldn't be announced, did it? :)

What I was trying to say is that now that we know for sure that the price isn't being announced at CES, I think that a late march and even an april release appears less likely (which is good, as far as I am concerned).
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i'm not edgy, i just can't really tell when someone is saying this as if Sony promised something, or as if something was expected, or if they just mean it like 'well, they missed an opportunity.'

Sony has never promised anything, so, if the FEBRUARY show is a bust... then I'd be like 'oh shi--'

I still think US is getting PS3 in Fall 2006, so we'll see.
 
Amir0x said:
i'm not edgy, i just can't really tell when someone is saying this as if Sony promised something, or as if something was expected, or if they just mean it like 'well, they missed an opportunity.'

Sony has never promised anything, so, if the FEBRUARY show is a bust... then I'd be like 'oh shi--'

I still think US is getting PS3 in Fall 2006, so we'll see.
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Fact is that I don't think that anywhere in my post I blamed Sony or anyone for alluding to some revelation. But it would be completely wrong to pretend that anyone in the world hadn't hopes or expectations for new bits of information to be revealed, imho ;)

Back on the launch matter: Fall 2006 for a Japanese debut?
 
Endymion said:
Fact is that I don't think that anywhere in my post I blamed Sony or anyone for alluding to some revelation. But it would be completely wrong to pretend that anyone in the world hadn't hopes or expectations for new bits of information to be revealed, imho ;)

Back on the launch matter: Fall 2006 for a Japanese debut?
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the whole "after all" bit coupled with a LOL smiley is what indicated it to me, personally. Because "after all" means that some were expecting it in the first place, imho.

But anyway this is silly semantics, it doesn't matter either way since you don't.
 
Endymion said:
What I was trying to say is that now that we know for sure that the price isn't being announced at CES, I think that a late march and even an april release appears less likely (which is good, as far as I am concerned).
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That really doesn't say much, considering Sony announced pricing and official launch details for the PSP only about month before its launch in both Japan and North America.
 
Speaking at the first keynote session of CES, Stringer showed a brief demo of the graphics capabilities of the long-awaited gaming system. He said Playstation 3 would support the Blu-ray Disc format and be backward compatible with earlier Playstations. Stringer added that 4,000 Playstation 3 development kits have been distributed globally.

But Stringer did not give a firm release date for the new game system. Instead, he cited statistics on the success of Playstation 2, perhaps as a ploy to sustain that system’s momentum.
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Some info.
 
Amir0x said:
the whole "after all" bit coupled with a LOL smiley is what indicated it to me, personally. Because "after all" means that some were expecting it in the first place, imho.

But anyway this is silly semantics, it doesn't matter either way since you don't.
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I see. Yeah, I must admit that inside of me I was deeply burned :{
 
gofreak said:
I'd say June in Japan, Oct/Nov in the US. Pure guesswork though.
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I approve of this guesswork. I too can't see PS3 coming anytime before May. I think E3 will be used to showcase all the games and generate hype for an imminent launch (max 30 days from the show).
 
Deg said:
Some info.
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Cheers. Sounds like their dev kit schedules are on track! Can you give a link?

Here's some more info - a couple of new titles shown?

Sony Computer Entertainment America CEO Kaz Hirai joined Stringer toward the end of the discussion to show video footage of PlayStation 3 software in action, which included some previously-seen footage, but a number of new unspecified titles, with the mix including Sony's own Formula 1 title, the dragon-related Lair project by Factor 5, and a behind-the-plane shooter.

Hirai also revealed that over four thousand PlayStation 3 development kits have been shipped to game developers, though no names were disclosed.
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The "behind the plane" shooter, I guess, is Warhawk. I wonder if there really any new titles shown, or just if they were new to Gamasutra's eyes ;)

http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=7694
 
Endymion said:
I approve of this guesswork. I too can't see PS3 coming anytime before May. I think E3 will be used to showcase all the games and generate hype for an imminent launch (max 30 days from the show).
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The original PS3 press PDF always cited "E3 2006" as the time of launch. IMO, it'll launch in Japan in either March or May, no other alternatives.
 
Gee, seems like something's missing from this part of the Official Thread. You'd think nothing about HD-DVD was announced at the show! Fair & balanced coverage right there. :lol
Amir0x said:
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BLU-RAY AND HD-DVD
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Ok, so this is a pretty hefty topic all its own it seems so I'm gonna give it its own section. Next-gen movie format war for the fuckin' LOSE.

NEWS

● First Blu-Ray support announced from Liongate, Twentieth Century Fox, Sony, Paramount
● Black Hawk Down and The Bridge on the River Kwai will be first available on 50 GB, dual-layer Blu-ray Discs Summer 2006.
● Picture of other Blu-Ray titles from companies like Disney, Warner, etc. Link
● Pioneer will launch their first PC Blu-ray burner in January, in Japan (pending 2 licensing issues) - no pricing yet. Link
● Paramount announces some of its HD-DVD support. Link
● Broadcom's new chip plays Blu-Ray and HD-DVD. Link
● Fox planning two sci-fi movies at 50GB Blu-Ray. What are they? Guess!
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How about:

-Toshiba announced a $499 HD-DVD Player
-Warner Bros. and Universal both only announced HD-DVD titles. No BR titles.
-On board for HD-DVD: Batman Begins, Harry Potter, Superman Returns, The Matrix, Goodfellas, and Apollo 13
-Microsoft announces a X360 HD-DVD Player
-Miramax and HBO going HD-DVD (Sopranos and Deadwood among high-profile content)
-HP puts HD-DVD drive in computers.

(list compiled by MattXG at rei-rom.com)
 
Teddman said:
Gee, seems like something's missing from this part of the Official Thread. You'd think nothing about HD-DVD was announced at the show! Fair & balanced coverage right there. :lol

How about:

-Toshiba announced a $499 HD-DVD Player
-Warner Bros. and Universal both only announced HD-DVD titles. No BR titles.
-On board for HD-DVD: Batman Begins, Harry Potter, Superman Returns, The Matrix, Goodfellas, and Apollo 13
-Microsoft announces a X360 HD-DVD Player
-Miramax and HBO going HD-DVD (Sopranos and Deadwood among high-profile content)
-HP puts HD-DVD drive in computers.

(list compiled by MattXG at rei-rom.com)
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tsc tsc. I haven't updated in a while (Haven't even added the 360 HD-DVD stuff), but since it's formated for me - thanks!

But of course the reason for me not including the HD-DVD stuff is actually because HD-DVD is a horrific format and everyone who supports it is a few bolts loose of a full package, but WHATEVER.
 
Teddman said:
Gee, seems like something's missing from this part of the Official Thread. You'd think nothing about HD-DVD was announced at the show! Fair & balanced coverage right there. :lol

How about:
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How about giving Amirox a break. There's a number of Blu-ray announcements he hasn't kept up with either.
 
kaching said:
How about giving Amirox a break. There's a number of Blu-ray announcements he hasn't kept up with either.
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True we dont need to have bullet points for freakin standard movie releases unless its dual layer or something special technically. To top it off the announcements arent even finished. Awful list. 'HP put drive in pc!?' They support Blu ray too.
 
no seriously i do appreciate it, i haven't updated at all today because i was being lazy BUT i did intend to do a serious update later tonight including HD-DVD stuff. It didn't go forgotten or overlooked :P

Anyway, post is updated with newly formated info. thx Teddman and MattXG.
 
Teddman, don't think we don't see you trying to slink away without actually apologizing for questioning Amirox's ability to be fair-minded on the back of baseless claim of one-sidedness. :lol
 
Teddman said:
-Warner Bros. and Universal both only announced HD-DVD titles. No BR titles.
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Unofficially true, but Warner does have titles coming as per the below pic. Here's another pic that could maybe be linkied in the first post:

http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/av/docs/20060105/ces04_19.jpg

Shows new titles, including some Disney and Warner ones (and other new ones too!). It's a lot better quality than the first pic with "unannounced titles". Disney should officially announce their first titles later today..maybe Warner too.
 
Jerkface said:
That display is hilariously bad! Unless they float through the air or something.
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Haha, I doubt it. But someone really needs to go to that display and write down every title there. I see Kill Bill, Flightplan, Pirates of the Caribbean, Batman Begins, The Matrix, Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, The Last Samurai, Dukes of Hazzard, Behind Enemy Lines, Troy, Armageddon, Hero..? I see two Terminators, too - I guess one is Judgement Day (Lionsgate), the other is Terminator 3 (Warner) I think..

Oh well, I guess neatly formatted press releases will reveal all in due course.
 
Dracula, Hitch, Robocop, Behind Enemy Lines, Flight Plan, Last Samurai, Species, Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, Resident Evil, Armaggedon, Terminator, Ice Age, Kill Bill, Batman Begins, U2 Concert, Pirates of the Carribean, Matrix Reloaded, Matrix, Tomb Raider, Troy, Ladder 49, XXX, Fantastic Four, Total Recall, Kung Fu Hustle, Into the Blue, Dukes of Hazzard, and more
 
Courtesy of TDK: 100GB Blu Ray Recordable. For later when we need it.

100gb1.jpg
 
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/01/05/u3_gains_openoffice/

OpenOffice has been updated to support U3 USB Flash drives, the organisation behind the portable Home folder technology said today. OpenOffice 2.0 can be run from any U3-branded Flash disk. The software automatically ensures that any preferences files and documents it creates are stored on the removable disk not on the host PC. The upshot: the software can be used on any compatible computer without the need to install the application first.
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Deg said:
Courtesy of TDK: 100GB Blu Ray Recordable. For later when we need it.

100gb1.jpg
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I need this like, yesterday! (to back up my work fileserver) I wonder how long it will take to burn a 100 GB disc? :lol
 
Memorex are onboard for both. Only single layer at first.
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In other news Nvidia and Sony seem cosy.
http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=4292


New Geforce Go 7 series GPU for laptops.
http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=4290

PSP Location Free Tv details (might need new topic?)
http://joystiq.com/2006/01/05/ces-psp-locationfree-tv-details/

Until WiFi hotspots are introduced into every nook & cranny on the planet, LocationFree TV has a limited range. Still, it's a fine technology for homebodies that are serious about television. With this setup, you'll never miss a second, even during trips to the kitchen or bathroom breaks.
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Mrbob said:
Put it this way, in two years time when there are 30 million Blu Ray players out there (Lets say 25 million of them PS3 systems) and there are under 5 million HD DVD players, who do you think movie studios will support? I would be amazed if HD DVD ends up surpassing more than a couple million.
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Hmmm
Do you really?
Do you really think a shortage is
Very likely? I
Do not think it is
In which case ps3 will sell about 20+m per year
So in other words in two years that means....
No 25m ps3s, but 40m
Or more
Next gen console winner
Very likely
Is the
Amazing spiderman font grilling and
Baking machine we all
Love and
Everybody wants PS3!!!
Endymion said:
No significant PS3 news after all. To think that some were expecting something playable, and Sony made the controller disappear in response :lol
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:lol
Deg said:
Courtesy of TDK: 100GB Blu Ray Recordable. For later when we need it.

100gb1.jpg
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The future indeed!
 
rc213 said:
No Disney titles listed yet though. =\
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There are actually a fair few titles missing there (the first four I checked aren't there ;)). They seem to be mixing in previous announcements from last year for HD-DVD too, but those plans were shelved along with the first planned launch.

I've got a list of Blu-ray and HD-DVD titles confirmed at CES, and I'll try update it when Disney announce (and if Warner announce), and maybe post them then. It's hard keeping track of them all, though, as some titles just creep out of the most inobvious places (and there are those photos from the Blu-ray booth with titles not in the press releases from certain companies ;)).

The BDA conference is at 5pm PST, I think. I'd expect Disney to announce around then. The Disney titles I've seen sofar in those photos, though, are:

Pirates Of The Caribbean
Kill Bill
Hero
Flightplan
Armageddon
Dinosaur
Ladder 49
 
gofreak said:
There are actually a fair few titles missing there (the first four I checked aren't there ;)). They seem to be mixing in previous announcements from last year for HD-DVD too, but those plans were shelved along with the first planned launch.

I've got a list of Blu-ray and HD-DVD titles confirmed at CES, and I'll try update it when Disney announce (and if Warner announce), and maybe post them then. It's hard keeping track of them all, though, as some titles just creep out of the most inobvious places (and there are those photos from the Blu-ray booth with titles not in the press releases from certain companies ;)).

The BDA conference is at 5pm PST, I think. I'd expect Disney to announce around then. The Disney titles I've seen sofar in those photos, though, are:

Pirates Of The Caribbean
Kill Bill
Hero
Flightplan
Armageddon
Dinosaur
Ladder 49
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Good to hear, Hopefully they announce them at the BDA Conference.
 
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